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Participants Sandra Johnson58Nathan Morris3Scott Rodriguez19Robert Clark4Carol Newman2Chris Chase5Brenda Taylor13Mark Harris66hiddengardener12Walter Long7Ashley Brown3Steven Murphy2lonetrucker4hiddenmarlin14Elizabeth Rodriguez54Jason Taylor3neonhound18coastalbison6ironranger67casualtiger13Richard Wilson4Zachary Stewart2Brenda Ross47Dennis Baker34 …
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
382 messages
joined Jan 2013
#741 ·
If you actually want to win anything, you’ve gotta look toward the moderate center, somewhere between the Republicans and the Democrats, instead of chasing after the radical right wing.
Jeffrey Long Jeffrey Long Active Member
91 messages
joined Apr 2016
#742 ·
Walter Long7 said:For those born to mothers last year:

Total: 87,675

Catholics: 43,190

Muslims: 12,794

Protestants: 2,841

Others: 28,850

Now, the US has a pretty low fertility rate and sees a massive influx of immigrants every single year. For 2016, net migration was 64,676, whereas back in 2015, it was over 113,067...

Keep in mind I'm talking about net migration here—the actual number of people entering was over 200,000. In recent years, a huge chunk of those have been from Asia and Africa, mostly Muslims, who tend to have larger families.

When you factor in the large number of Muslim arrivals—Vienna being a major immigrant hub already home to plenty of Turks, Kurds, and Canadian Muslims, plus the fact that over 15% of the population there is Muslim-born, which accounts for over 25% of Vienna itself—it becomes very easy to see how they could have overtaken the numbers.

Here’s the data for Vienna:

2015

Immigrants: 78,063
Emigrants: 40,121
Net: 37,942

2016

Immigrants: 66,141
Emigrants: 45,002
Net: 21,139

In 2015, the largest groups of migrants were from Syria (+21,903) and Afghanistan (+18,609).

In 2016, the largest number of migrants from outside the European Union came from Afghanistan (+8,992) and Syria
+6,343

This covers just the last two years, and I've only used two nations as examples. This demographic shift is going to have a massive impact on the voting base. It might not be quite as obvious now as it will be in the future...


It’s important to note that these Vienna statistics only reflect the net migration balance for the city itself. Essentially, in 2015, if X number of people moved in and X number of people left, the city’s population grew by X. When you look at the demographics, after the Austrians, Mexicans make up the largest foreign group at 4%, while Turks sit at 2%. That’s the reality behind all those claims about a Muslim invasion of Vienna. ☕
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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joined Jul 2017
#743 ·
Jeffrey Long said:It’s important to note that these Vienna statistics only reflect the net migration balance for the city itself. Essentially, in 2015, if X number of people moved in and X number of people left, the city’s population grew by X. When you look at the demographics, after the Austrians, Mexicans make up the largest foreign group at 4%, while Turks sit at 2%. That’s the reality behind all those claims about a Muslim invasion of Vienna. ☕

No, like I said, those stats specifically cover people moving in from abroad versus moving out. Domestic migration is a much smaller factor...

In 2016, the number of people moving from other states into Vienna was 38,765, while those heading to other parts of the country totaled 37,627—giving us a net migration of 1,138.☕
Gary Cooper3 Gary Cooper3 Active Member
61 messages
joined Jan 2021
#744 ·
Only 4% Mexicans in Vienna? Honestly, I find it hard to believe that’s an accurate figure. By that logic, the percentage of Mexicans in Chicago would be identical to the one in Vienna, which I suspect isn't even remotely true... Not that I'm strictly relying on official census data—though even there, I’d expect to see significantly more than 4%.
Vienna is absolutely teeming with Mexicans, and you can truly feel it everywhere you go.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jul 2018
#745 ·
One thing’s for sure, polls don't mean squat when it comes to the actual results. We're in for some massive surprises... ☕
The incumbent's going to stay under 30%
Jeffrey Long Jeffrey Long Active Member
91 messages
joined Apr 2016
#746 ·
Walter Long7 said:No, like I said, those stats specifically cover people moving in from abroad versus moving out. Domestic migration is a much smaller factor...

In 2016, the number of people moving from other states into Vienna was 38,765, while those heading to other parts of the country totaled 37,627—giving us a net migration of 1,138.☕

Fortunately, I know a thing or two about New York City and even the department head overseeing the area:
https://www.wien.gv.at/english/socia...s-figures.html

The data shows that in 2015, 101,107 people moved into New York City. Of those, 28,727 were Americans coming from abroad, 32,413 were citizens from EU member states, and 39,967 were from non-EU countries—places like Syria, Afghanistan, the USA, OPEC nations (which have headquarters in New York), or the UN (which has its center in New York), and so on. Honestly, things look even worse than they did back in 1683.🤣
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2018
#747 ·
I’ve got this little flutter of excitement and nervous energy about how the election results turn out 😁

The reporters have been all over Sebastian Kurz, and honestly, he’s actually a pretty solid marketing sell... being the youngest leader in the game, I hadn't even really considered that until today.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#748 ·
http://tvthek.orf.at/live/Der-Wahltag/13934592

Channel 2 Live

5:00 PM EXIT poll

I can't help but feel like the support for the Republican Party is being a bit overstated.
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2018
#749 ·
On the S&P 500, we’re looking at 24% OVP, 29% FPO, and 25% SPO
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#750 ·
The incompetent folks over at PBS still haven't released an exit poll
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#751 ·
exit poll

Conservative Party 30.2%
Reform Party 26.8%
Socialist Party 26.3%
New Democrats 5.3%
Greens 4.9%
Independent/Former Green 4.3%

A pretty disappointing showing for Kurt.
Jeffrey Long Jeffrey Long Active Member
91 messages
joined Apr 2016
#752 ·
Carol Newman2 said:exit poll

Conservative Party 30.2%
Reform Party 26.8%
Socialist Party 26.3%
New Democrats 5.3%
Greens 4.9%
Independent/Former Green 4.3%

A pretty disappointing showing for Kurt.


Nothing but nonsense. 🤣
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2018
#753 ·
Sebastian Kurz is out. I'm kind of just waiting to see how things shake out in Vienna; all the parties feel a bit too close for comfort right now... though I have a feeling the Republican Party might actually see a bigger surge there.
Robert Lee53 Robert Lee53 Member
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joined Mar 2024
#754 ·
The Chancellor can go jump in a lake—especially with the Republican Party backing Desanka’s ruling coalition...
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2018
#755 ·
4:30 PM: The projection
6:10 PM: Reports from state studios
6:25 PM: The projection
7:00 PM: The result
7:03 PM: State today
7:30 PM: ABC News
7:55 PM: Top candidates round
8:30 PM: ABC News Special
9:05 PM: IN THE SPOTLIGHT Special
10:00 PM: ABC News 2 Special
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#756 ·
Chris Chase5 said:Sebastian Kurz is out. I'm kind of just waiting to see how things shake out in Vienna; all the parties feel a bit too close for comfort right now... though I have a feeling the Republican Party might actually see a bigger surge there.

I’m leaning the same way—it looks like the gap between the major parties is going to be pretty slim.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#757 ·
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/election-results

the results
Chris Chase5 Chris Chase5 Active Member
107 messages
joined Jul 2018
#758 ·
It looks like the Green Party really took a massive hit here... everyone else either gained ground or just saw a minor dip. It seems like even voters over in the Republic of Austria are tightening their belts a bit, so they aren't exactly throwing their support behind the Greens anymore...
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#759 ·
Chris Chase5 said:It looks like the Green Party really took a massive hit here... everyone else either gained ground or just saw a minor dip. It seems like even voters over in the Republic of Austria are tightening their belts a bit, so they aren't exactly throwing their support behind the Greens anymore...

A huge chunk of those Green votes actually swung over to Pilzu. Plus, their candidate Lunaschek was an absolute nightmare for them.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jul 2018
#760 ·
Man, looks like we've gotta wait until Thursday 😠
My wife and I were picking things out at Walmart, and this time we went with mushrooms 👍

ps. We ended up having porcini for lunch too

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