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Participants William MorganAshley Mendoza6mistyraven20Henry Edwards33wearytrucker22Jose Carter2neondriver5Jessica Nelson4Richard Lewis16Drew Allen77
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’m a total newbie here. I honestly believe my business idea is solid and straightforward, so I’m officially filing my LLC paperwork next week. There aren't any massive upfront costs, and while the initial income will be slim, it’ll be plenty to get by in this economy. I'm looking at roughly $233 per month from each client. If I can land just 10 clients, I’ll be "set," as they say. 😵 I’ll be absolutely thrilled, though I know there's much more potential out there.

But here’s the QUESTION!
Which websites should I be hitting up when I run into something I don't understand? Where can I go to actually learn the ropes? Specifically, where can I stay plugged into everything happening with the Small Business Administration on a daily basis?
In just the last two months, I’ve picked up more practical knowledge than I did during my entire college career. Yet, I still feel like there’s a massive void of information out there, and frankly, that scares the hell out of me.
I know I’ll learn as I go, but I really don't want my learning curve to involve $667 getting hit with a massive fine because I missed a payment or messed up a filing.
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
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#2 ·
http://www.sba.gov/

Look, I’m honestly not sure what part of this is actually stressing you out. 🤔 You haven't even mentioned what kind of business you're planning to launch yet.

I.

P.S.

Don't lose sleep over potential fines. If an inspector shows up with a warrant to penalize you, they’ll find *something* regardless. 😬 For example, they might claim your restroom doesn't have a properly sized shelf for handbags. It’s all just bureaucratic nonsense.
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#3 ·
Ashley Mendoza6 said:http://www.sba.gov/

Look, I’m honestly not sure what part of this is actually stressing you out. 🤔 You haven't even mentioned what kind of business you're planning to launch yet.

I.

P.S.

Don't lose sleep over potential fines. If an inspector shows up with a warrant to penalize you, they’ll find *something* regardless. 😬 For example, they might claim your restroom doesn't have a properly sized shelf for handbags. It’s all just bureaucratic nonsense.

Nothing specific is keeping me up at night, just the little things. For example, am I legally required to rent space from myself and sign a formal lease agreement for a tiny 20-square-foot corner of my own apartment?
Do I have to pay taxes or U.S. Chamber of Commerce dues if I have zero employees and zero revenue starting out? Can I handle my own bookkeeping since I graduated from Wharton School? It's just a mountain of small details. 🙂
Still, I figure when I hit a wall, I can just pop back into this thread. I'm sure one of you will have the answer. 😁
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
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joined Apr 2017
#4 ·
William Morgan said:Nothing specific is keeping me up at night, just the little things. For example, am I legally required to rent space from myself and sign a formal lease agreement for a tiny 20-square-foot corner of my own apartment?
Do I have to pay taxes or U.S. Chamber of Commerce dues if I have zero employees and zero revenue starting out? Can I handle my own bookkeeping since I graduated from Wharton School? It's just a mountain of small details. 🙂
Still, I figure when I hit a wall, I can just pop back into this thread. I'm sure one of you will have the answer. 😁

If you decide to lease business space from yourself, it has to follow specific regulations—everything from fire safety codes to the insurance policies we mentioned earlier. My honest advice? Don't try to pass off an inadequate living space as a legitimate office. You're basically just inviting an inspector to come knocking on your door.

You have to pay for everything. I'm not entirely sure if a single-member LLC gets a pass on certain fees, but I highly doubt it. Honestly, the real headache isn't the actual tax amount; it's the endless stream of petty, quasi-regulatory nonsense you have to shell out for. But hey, that's just the reality of doing business in America.

As for the books, you could technically manage them if you had a fourth-grade education. The real question is whether you actually can effectively handle it. 😬 Generally speaking, as accountants, we are the ones telling clients what they can and cannot do, all with the singular goal of avoiding audits and heavy fines. ☕ In that arena, experience is absolutely everything.

I.
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#5 ·
I’ve got a solid handle on the accounting side of things. Even if I have to spend my time crunching numbers on paper just to stay ahead before the revenue starts rolling in, I'm ready.
There are going to be plenty of small hurdles along the way, but I’m prepared. Let’s do this. No one else in America is going to hand me success on a silver platter. It’s going to be one battle at a time.
mistyraven20 mistyraven20 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Look, I’m saying this with the best intentions—honestly, just so you don't run into trouble later—but I have to point out the contradiction here. You claim you're "great at accounting," yet most of the questions you asked in your first post suggest otherwise. Personally, I would never call someone a skilled accountant if they were asking those kinds of fundamental questions. That’s stuff you should expect your accountant to explain to *you*.

College knowledge and actual hands-on experience are two totally different beasts. It might be a smart move to consult with a seasoned, pro accountant before you dive headfirst into the job.
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#7 ·
mistyraven20 said:Look, I’m saying this with the best intentions—honestly, just so you don't run into trouble later—but I have to point out the contradiction here. You claim you're "great at accounting," yet most of the questions you asked in your first post suggest otherwise. Personally, I would never call someone a skilled accountant if they were asking those kinds of fundamental questions. That’s stuff you should expect your accountant to explain to *you*.

College knowledge and actual hands-on experience are two totally different beasts. It might be a smart move to consult with a seasoned, pro accountant before you dive headfirst into the job.

I get the bookkeeping side of things, sure. But all these overlapping, messy regulations that pile on top of everything else? That's a different story. You have a point there.
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
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#8 ·
Here you've got all these wonderful experts who apparently know everything about everything 😉
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#9 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:Here you've got all these wonderful experts who apparently know everything about everything 😉

Thanks. This forum really feels like a fantastic place to turn when you need a little extra help with something. 👍
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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joined Dec 2012
#10 ·
mistyraven20 said:Look, I’m saying this with the best intentions—honestly, just so you don't run into trouble later—but I have to point out the contradiction here. You claim you're "great at accounting," yet most of the questions you asked in your first post suggest otherwise. Personally, I would never call someone a skilled accountant if they were asking those kinds of fundamental questions. That’s stuff you should expect your accountant to explain to *you*.

College knowledge and actual hands-on experience are two totally different beasts. It might be a smart move to consult with a seasoned, pro accountant before you dive headfirst into the job.

An accountant has no clue about how much space needs to be between restroom stalls, how often machinery needs certification, or which specific bolt needs a UL rating to meet safety standards.

What an accountant actually does is know which account to debit or credit, which taxes are due when and how much, everything regarding Labor Law, those annoying little tax nuances, travel expenses, and petty inventory management.
The slightly more experienced ones understand the finer details concerning inspections. A handful of top-tier pros in America understand things like circular investments, advanced double taxation avoidance, hiding capital through trusts, or creative accounting where profits are funneled straight into capital instead of being recorded as net income. (That last one is what companies like Monsanto or Ina do on a smaller scale, but 99.99% of global corporations and billionaires pull the same stunts).
Generally speaking, it is easy to hide a billion dollars in profit, yet incredibly difficult to hide five hundred bucks in cash.
The owner of IKEA used to receive perks from the Swiss government in the form of free public transit passes and home medical assistance—there was even some social welfare involved, though it was covered up. It was all technically legal, just morally bankrupt. His domestic housekeepers end up paying a higher effective tax rate than he does.
mistyraven20 mistyraven20 Newcomer
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#11 ·
@wearytrucker22, if you actually read my post closely, I was specifically addressing his questions about bookkeeping tasks—like those payments to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce—especially since he mentioned being "good at accounting." Obviously, a bookkeeper isn't going to have answers regarding suspense accounts; that’s just not what they do, nor is it what they get paid for. And honestly, your examples about massive corporations and billions of dollars feel a bit misplaced here. We're talking about setting up a small LLC where the owner might make a few thousand bucks. In that scenario, I'm guessing he'll find advice much more useful on things like, as you put it, "knowing which account to hit, which taxes to pay and when, Labor Law stuff, minor tax headaches, travel expenses, and office supplies," rather than how to hide a billion in profit. Once he hits that level, I highly doubt he'll be looking for advice on a forum! 👍

@William Morgan - Like Henry Edwards33 suggested, that specific subforum is perfect for finding most of what you need. Most startup questions have already been covered there; you just need to dig through the threads a bit. Good luck with the business!
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#12 ·
Quick question here. I was under the impression that if you run an LLC without any employees or actual revenue, your monthly overhead would basically be zero. But now I'm reading that since I'm the sole founder and director, I'm still on the hook for my own social security and health insurance contributions—especially since I'm currently unemployed. Would it make sense to just opt into the minimum gross salary right away to keep those costs as low as possible?

Is it true that even with zero income, I'm still stuck paying for health and pension insurance plus my membership fees to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
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#13 ·
William Morgan said:Quick question here. I was under the impression that if you run an LLC without any employees or actual revenue, your monthly overhead would basically be zero. But now I'm reading that since I'm the sole founder and director, I'm still on the hook for my own social security and health insurance contributions—especially since I'm currently unemployed. Would it make sense to just opt into the minimum gross salary right away to keep those costs as low as possible?

Is it true that even with zero income, I'm still stuck paying for health and pension insurance plus my membership fees to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?


Calling an LLC "simple" is honestly a massive understatement. To me, the 'L' basically stands for "Losing money" until you actually scale into a full corporation. It feels like it exists solely to squeeze people who don't have $5,000 in starting capital or a high-end accountant willing to swear that some old laptop is worth $2,000 just to pad the initial equity.

Have you actually taken the time to study what an LLC really entails?🤔

Best,

P.S.

It looks like you haven't even filed the paperwork yet (which, honestly, is probably for the best), but you're already showing a fundamental misunderstanding of how this works. You need to realize that an LLC can be an incredibly disadvantageous option—it often ends up being more expensive than a standard corporation or a simple sole proprietorship. Your overhead stays pretty much the same as a full corp (taxes, contributions, compliance, closing costs, changing capital, etc.), yet you face legal requirements regarding reserves. My honest advice? Handle that initial startup capital through things like student internships, freelance contracts, or working through someone else's established business. Just don't go "under the table"—that's illegal and I won't encourage 😉. Get some experience first, then dive into entrepreneurship properly.
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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#14 ·
You only ever show up when there’s something to complain about. Hahaha 👍

Everything is fine; I know exactly what my next move is. I've got the flyers ready and clients are already lining up. Once I land a solid contract, I’ll officially pull the trigger on opening the business. I know I'm taking a bit of a gamble by working with a client before I have my LLC set up, but I’m going to reserve my business name right now just to make sure everything stays organized while I navigate the paperwork.

Look, friend, I get it. It’s a massive headache, and you’re clearly feeling totally discouraged. But I'm new to this. 😁 My biggest advantage? Honestly, I have a family behind me that has worked their way up the ladder and built real wealth, if you know what I mean. But I want to build something from nothing without leaning on them. It’s going to be great. Let's do this!
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
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joined Apr 2017
#15 ·
William Morgan said:You only ever show up when there’s something to complain about. Hahaha 👍

Everything is fine; I know exactly what my next move is. I've got the flyers ready and clients are already lining up. Once I land a solid contract, I’ll officially pull the trigger on opening the business. I know I'm taking a bit of a gamble by working with a client before I have my LLC set up, but I’m going to reserve my business name right now just to make sure everything stays organized while I navigate the paperwork.

Look, friend, I get it. It’s a massive headache, and you’re clearly feeling totally discouraged. But I'm new to this. 😁 My biggest advantage? Honestly, I have a family behind me that has worked their way up the ladder and built real wealth, if you know what I mean. But I want to build something from nothing without leaning on them. It’s going to be great. Let's do this!

I wasn't trying to discourage you. Honestly, I love seeing young people with this kind of drive. I’m just telling you: if there is any other way to get paid that doesn't require setting up an LLC immediately—take it.

My advice? Focus on building your brand(s) regardless of what the official company name ends up being. Most customers don't give a damn about the legal entity name anyway. ☕ I honestly have no idea which clients you'd actually lose by not having a registered firm yet. It isn't the company doing the work; it's you. Unless, of course, you're planning to run a massive import-export empire. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is finding a way to get paid and making those expenses tax-deductible. 🕺 Maybe through government contracts, I suppose...

The bureaucracy of setting up an LLC is the problem here, not your entrepreneurial spirit. 😉 Regardless, I sincerely wish you nothing but the best. I hope you find success and get rich one day.

I.
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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#16 ·
William Morgan said:You only ever show up when there’s something to complain about. Hahaha 👍

Everything is fine; I know exactly what my next move is. I've got the flyers ready and clients are already lining up. Once I land a solid contract, I’ll officially pull the trigger on opening the business. I know I'm taking a bit of a gamble by working with a client before I have my LLC set up, but I’m going to reserve my business name right now just to make sure everything stays organized while I navigate the paperwork.

Look, friend, I get it. It’s a massive headache, and you’re clearly feeling totally discouraged. But I'm new to this. 😁 My biggest advantage? Honestly, I have a family behind me that has worked their way up the ladder and built real wealth, if you know what I mean. But I want to build something from nothing without leaning on them. It’s going to be great. Let's do this!

It would be cheaper for you to just set up a sole proprietorship and handle your own bookkeeping.
William Morgan William Morgan MemberOP
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joined Apr 2017
#17 ·
wearytrucker22 said:It would be cheaper for you to just set up a sole proprietorship and handle your own bookkeeping.

I’ve got about $100k tied up in my apartment, and honestly? The idea of starting a business scares the hell out of me because my personal assets are on the line. Even if I had total control over everything, my parents worked their fingers to the bone to help me get this place. I could never risk putting that at stake.

@Ashley Mendoza6
The nature of this business really requires people to trust me. I'm offering something that makes their lives easier—essentially, I'll be doing the heavy lifting so the company itself becomes the reliable factor. But I totally hear where you're coming from. Maybe I'm overthinking it? Maybe they won't even care? It's hard to know until you're actually in the thick of it. At the end of the day, I have to find clients first. You can't exactly launch something and then try to pay the bills out of thin air... meh.
Jose Carter2 Jose Carter2 Member
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joined May 2017
#18 ·
Just wait for TTIP to be ratified and then start your business in the USA. Or honestly, just set up shop in Poland or Slovakia right now... because frankly, I'm done with this socialist, crony-filled mess we have here.
neondriver5 neondriver5 Active Member
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joined May 2017
#19 ·
Is there any way to pull those 20 $0.00 out sooner? I mean, through some legal, straightforward route, or is it actually that complicated?
The 20 $0.00 itself isn't the issue, it’s more about why they should just be "sitting" there...
By the way, you might want to look into the costs of dissolving an LLC or a corporation. I've been digging into this myself and stumbled upon it—definitely factor that possibility into your plans.
The smarter players don't bother closing their companies; they just sell them. But let's be real, who is going to buy a company loaded with debt? Only the big sharks can play that game.😁
Jessica Nelson4 Jessica Nelson4 Member
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joined May 2017
#20 ·
William Morgan said:I’ve got about $100k tied up in my apartment, and honestly? The idea of starting a business scares the hell out of me because my personal assets are on the line. Even if I had total control over everything, my parents worked their fingers to the bone to help me get this place. I could never risk putting that at stake.

@Ashley Mendoza6
The nature of this business really requires people to trust me. I'm offering something that makes their lives easier—essentially, I'll be doing the heavy lifting so the company itself becomes the reliable factor. But I totally hear where you're coming from. Maybe I'm overthinking it? Maybe they won't even care? It's hard to know until you're actually in the thick of it. At the end of the day, I have to find clients first. You can't exactly launch something and then try to pay the bills out of thin air... meh.

That’s a very wise way to look at it.

If I may offer a little advice, don't be afraid to ask your parents to loan you maybe $25k to set up an LLC... you can easily pay them back within a year or two once things get moving.

In my personal opinion, opting for a single-member LLC often feels a bit unprofessional, mostly because there are so many people who choose that structure specifically just to skirt the rules.😁

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