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Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#181 ·
There’s just no way they’re actually going to deport them,

Their home countries won't even take them back... I mean, places like Afghanistan, Morocco, or Tunisia, they all just flat-out refuse to accept their own citizens anymore.

And honestly, for a lot of people, it’s not even possible to figure out where they originally came from in the first place.
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#182 ·
Donna Harris11 said:There’s just no way they’re actually going to deport them,

Their home countries won't even take them back... I mean, places like Afghanistan, Morocco, or Tunisia, they all just flat-out refuse to accept their own citizens anymore.

And honestly, for a lot of people, it’s not even possible to figure out where they originally came from in the first place.

Still, it’s worth trying at least one angle. Someone suggested chartering planes for transport. If they hold valid passports from those specific countries, those nations have to take them.

Anyway, that accounts for roughly 40% of everyone who arrived—all from places that aren't even war zones. They’re coming from everywhere, including parts of the former America.
Olivia Smith4 Olivia Smith4 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#183 ·
"Neo-Nazi groups launched an attack on migrants this past Friday evening, according to reports from CNN.
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
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joined May 2017
#184 ·
I honestly have more respect for RT than I do for Index...

https://www.rt.com/news/330697-swede...rom-washington,/
Arthur Ward76 Arthur Ward76 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2016
#185 ·
Olivia Smith4 said:"Neo-Nazi groups launched an attack on migrants this past Friday evening, according to reports from CNN.

It’d be great if they actually bothered to explain *why* those guys were targeted.

Washington, D.C. is crawling with migrant gangs, mostly from North Africa, running petty scams and harassing women. The cops are either spread too thin or just don't know how to handle them since half of them claim to be minors without parents around. (At least, that's the story—most don't have any paperwork, so nobody actually knows how old these kids really are.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-girls.html
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
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joined May 2017
#186 ·
I’m reading through this and I honestly can't wrap my head around it. Is this actually happening?...

From the report:
Staff at an asylum center have been prohibited from holding a memorial service—essentially a Protestant version of a funeral mass—for a woman who was murdered. On top of that, social workers in Kiruna were told they aren't allowed to fly the flag at half-mast as a gesture of mourning and respect.

And there is more to it...

According to the details:
The service eventually took place at a nearby church in Kiruna, but the staff members who were on duty at the time were explicitly told by the board that they couldn't leave their posts to attend the memorial for their fallen colleague. They weren't granted permission to go.

Perhaps the narrative would be handled differently if it had been a secular event instead of a religious one...
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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#187 ·
silentfalcon3 said:I’m reading through this and I honestly can't wrap my head around it. Is this actually happening?...

From the report:
Staff at an asylum center have been prohibited from holding a memorial service—essentially a Protestant version of a funeral mass—for a woman who was murdered. On top of that, social workers in Kiruna were told they aren't allowed to fly the flag at half-mast as a gesture of mourning and respect.

And there is more to it...

According to the details:
The service eventually took place at a nearby church in Kiruna, but the staff members who were on duty at the time were explicitly told by the board that they couldn't leave their posts to attend the memorial for their fallen colleague. They weren't granted permission to go.

Perhaps the narrative would be handled differently if it had been a secular event instead of a religious one...

Well, looks like I finally tracked it down myself.
It turns out this is true. It's about workers at a similar reception center in a different part of Sweden (not the actual center where she worked). That municipality banned using municipal facilities for the purpose and wouldn't let them lower the flag on government buildings.
There isn't much of an explanation other than it "violates municipal rules."
Source: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/...mordad-kollega
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#188 ·
Swedes just seem to be doing this to themselves—it’s like they have this intense urge to neuter their own culture. For what, though? Do they really think migrants will integrate better if everyone just rolls over and accommodates them at every turn?
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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#189 ·
Mark Harris66 said:Swedes just seem to be doing this to themselves—it’s like they have this intense urge to neuter their own culture. For what, though? Do they really think migrants will integrate better if everyone just rolls over and accommodates them at every turn?

Honestly, Swedes are just world-class experts at that "please don't be mad at us" kind of diplomacy. They've spent 300 years dodging conflicts just to keep the peace, basically trading away their pride and backbone in the process.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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#190 ·
Everything beautiful eventually comes to an end😬 (not my own wisdom—just an old saying)
Matthew Rogers87 Matthew Rogers87 Newcomer
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#191 ·
Mark Harris66 said:Swedes just seem to be doing this to themselves—it’s like they have this intense urge to neuter their own culture. For what, though? Do they really think migrants will integrate better if everyone just rolls over and accommodates them at every turn?

This is nonsense. There’s this new theory floating around suggesting that failed integration is entirely the fault of the local population simply because they haven't fully embraced immigrants. Apparently, because locals don't go out of their way to accept them, these newcomers end up feeling like outsiders or "others." From that sense of alienation, you get this backlash where even the younger generations—those actually born on American soil—radically revert to their ancestral roots. So, according to this logic, the only way to prevent this is to constantly cater to them and make sure they feel welcomed at all costs. This includes things like taking the word of an adult at face value when they claim to be fifteen years old. They also argue that the whole process of integrating into the host society is actually a form of discrimination; instead, they think it should be a two-way street where the domestic culture is modified to accommodate the influence of new citizens. If I were feeling particularly cynical, I’d say this explains why the police seem so hesitant to intervene when groups of immigrants harass women in public. But hey, I guess that’s just considered part of the culture in some of the places a significant number of them come from.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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joined Oct 2018
#192 ·
silentfalcon3 said:I’m reading through this and I honestly can't wrap my head around it. Is this actually happening?...

From the report:
Staff at an asylum center have been prohibited from holding a memorial service—essentially a Protestant version of a funeral mass—for a woman who was murdered. On top of that, social workers in Kiruna were told they aren't allowed to fly the flag at half-mast as a gesture of mourning and respect.

And there is more to it...

According to the details:
The service eventually took place at a nearby church in Kiruna, but the staff members who were on duty at the time were explicitly told by the board that they couldn't leave their posts to attend the memorial for their fallen colleague. They weren't granted permission to go.

Perhaps the narrative would be handled differently if it had been a secular event instead of a religious one...

Anything is possible as long as the mods don't catch people posting links from freedom.org again—their version is worlds apart from what you see on CBS. They're saying the Mass wasn't banned, but actually happened in a packed church over in Örnsköldsvik, a town of about 30,000 people located 435 miles from Mölndal, which has nothing to do with it other than both having a "Nursing Home" there—basically a residential care facility for kids and teens. So, in this town of Örnsköldsvik, some worker at that Nursing Home (who's been out on sick leave since December) thought it would be a great idea to hold a memorial in the municipal building and fly the flag at half-mast. But he got shut down! Apparently, there are strict rules about how you can use the building and who actually gets to decide when flags go down. His comeback was just killer:

Carl Lindahl said:God is actually infinitely bigger than the city manager in Örnsköldsvik

God is basically infinitely larger than the mayor of Örnsköldsvik.

Honestly, if I ever see a Swede asking for asylum in America, I’ll start believing that secularism and the rule of law are actually bad things.
Robin Fox2 Robin Fox2 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#193 ·
An investigation by SVD has surfaced some rather uncomfortable truths regarding Kaplan's alleged ties to far-right extremists... one wonders how much more might come to light if we kept digging.

Prior to his current role, he served as a spokesperson for the Muslim Council of USA (2005–2006) and Young Muslims of America (2000–2002)... He was also a founding member of American Muslims for Peace and Justice, a Muslim peace movement, while remaining a staunch advocate for the US peace movement... Furthermore, he served as a member of the board of the Green Party between 2003 and 2011...

Kaplan was on board the Ship to Gaza flotilla which tried to send necessities through the Israeli embargo of the Gaza strip. The Israeli armed forces boarded the flotilla on 31 May 2010 and the clash killed 9 flotilla members in the heat of battle...

During a Fight Racism Now seminar held in Visby on July 1, 2014, Kaplan drew a comparison between the young Muslims from Sweden who joined various factions in the Syrian civil war—including the Islamic State—and the young Swedes who stepped up to defend Finland against Russia during the Second World War's Winter War. While Kaplan later claimed his remarks were taken out of context, he did concede that his choice of words was somewhat clumsy...

During an interview with a Turkish newspaper, Kaplan stated that it is natural for Sweden to recognize Palestine as a state, suggesting that the occupied territories would eventually be liberated—God willing—and that Jerusalem will become the capital of Palestine. He further maintained that Israel would ultimately be compelled to enter into a peace agreement...

Kaplan stands as the first Swedish minister to be a practicing Muslim. He has also been labeled being an Islamist by various personalities, including the former Member of Parliament, Nalin Pekgul of the Swedish Social Democratic Party...

Back in April 2016, Kaplan faced a wave of backlash due to his ties to Islamists in Turkey [5]; specifically, he had met with Ilhan Sentürk, the leader of the Turkish nationalist group the Grey Wolves, and encountered individuals from the Islamist organization Milli Görüs on multiple occasions [6]. Naturally, this has sparked quite a few uncomfortable conversations in Sweden regarding where Kaplan actually stands on the issue of extremism...

🤣 Sweden, charging full steam ahead... 😍
quietbison86 quietbison86 Active Member
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joined May 2024
#194 ·
Man, this whole thing is seriously getting under my skin 🙂
frozenranger52 frozenranger52 Member
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joined Dec 2012
#195 ·
A Muslim border guard in Sweden refused to shake hands with his female colleague

https://www.rt.com/news/346012-swede...dshake-debate/

Things are getting truly chaotic over there. It feels like every other day there's some surreal news coming out of Sweden... honestly, it’s reaching a point where it doesn't even make sense anymore. 😵
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
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joined Aug 2012
#196 ·
So, get this—the guy with that Islamic Emirate tattoo actually had to bail out of the plane in Stockholm while they were en route to Greek Heraklion.
His girlfriend didn't fly out with him either.
Turns out, their captain was the one who made the call to kick them off the flight.

Because of the whole mess, the takeoff ended up being delayed.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#197 ·
So, whatever happened to that guy with the tattoo? It’d be a bummer if he ended up stuck in Sweden...
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
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joined Aug 2012
#198 ·
Mark Harris66 said:So, whatever happened to that guy with the tattoo? It’d be a bummer if he ended up stuck in Sweden...

The article didn't actually say—I just shared what I had right here.

Honestly, the craziest part of this whole thing is that Sweden might actually consider giving asylum to this 46-year-old Canadian veteran. This guy was an ISIS operative who was arguably more dangerous and active than their own people—he was even acting as a teacher and commander for some of their terror cells over in Syria and Iraq.
Instead of being behind bars (where he probably belongs, let's be real), this guy is out there waiting on asylum in Sweden...

Just for those who aren't in the loop: Sweden is basically a magnet for "retired" ISIS terrorists because their laws have these massive loopholes that let these guys live there legally as refugees.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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#199 ·
I’m not even surprised, Benny. If you pick up the book by Agent Storm, you'll see his autobiography—he's a Dane who actually converted to Islam and went through terrorist training in Yemen... then, after a few years, he ended up working as a secret agent for the Danish intelligence service. He describes how he could fly back and forth between Denmark and Yemen multiple times a year without anyone batting an eye. To make matters even wilder, the Danish government actually subsidized his Arabic studies in Yemen—plus, whenever he was back in Denmark, they covered his rent and social benefits because he was technically a "social case." He really drives home the point that Europe doesn't take these risks seriously enough. He predicted these kinds of events happening across Europe, and he wrote the book two years ago—it came out in the US about a year and a half ago. It’s a great read that breaks down exactly how and why terrorists radicalize so easily, how the whole thing is organized, and how it all works... plus, he touches on the terrible—maybe even intentional—lack of cooperation between European intelligence agencies.
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
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#200 ·
Mark Harris66 said:I’m not even surprised, Benny. If you pick up the book by Agent Storm, you'll see his autobiography—he's a Dane who actually converted to Islam and went through terrorist training in Yemen... then, after a few years, he ended up working as a secret agent for the Danish intelligence service. He describes how he could fly back and forth between Denmark and Yemen multiple times a year without anyone batting an eye. To make matters even wilder, the Danish government actually subsidized his Arabic studies in Yemen—plus, whenever he was back in Denmark, they covered his rent and social benefits because he was technically a "social case." He really drives home the point that Europe doesn't take these risks seriously enough. He predicted these kinds of events happening across Europe, and he wrote the book two years ago—it came out in the US about a year and a half ago. It’s a great read that breaks down exactly how and why terrorists radicalize so easily, how the whole thing is organized, and how it all works... plus, he touches on the terrible—maybe even intentional—lack of cooperation between European intelligence agencies.

Could you maybe elaborate a bit more on the bolded part?

Look, as a seasoned psychologist, I’m not surprised by anything involving our human race—even all that political maneuvering and playing people like puppets is just a subset of the psychological manipulation we're all susceptible to. Sure, some of us fall for it more than others, but it’s universal.

You can buy one person with money, another with a good reputation, a third with empty promises, and a fourth with religious zeal... but at the end of the day, it’s all just psychological manipulation.
Obviously, regular folks often use these tactics subconsciously, unlike politicians and people in uniform—and honestly, that's where terrorists fit right in.

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