Investigative propaganda

I’m looking over this investigation right now and I honestly can't believe my eyes... they're trying to frame the partisans, but then they throw in these photos supposedly showing partisans executing Nationalists. Anyone with half a brain can see those pictures actually show Nationalists executing partisans.

I tracked down the images here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_na_djelu.JPG
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pics/Is...le_corpses.jpg

Take this one, for instance—the man standing there among the bodies... he's a pretty well-known figure to us.
I guess it's just plain shameful. Honestly, all I can say is that it's a total disgrace.

fadedangler said:I’m looking over this investigation right now and I honestly can't believe my eyes... they're trying to frame the partisans, but then they throw in these photos supposedly showing partisans executing Nationalists. Anyone with half a brain can see those pictures actually show Nationalists executing partisans.

I tracked down the images here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_na_djelu.JPG
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/pics/Is...le_corpses.jpg

Take this one, for instance—the man standing there among the bodies... he's a pretty well-known figure to us.
I guess it's just plain shameful. Honestly, all I can say is that it's a total disgrace.

You're the one who should be embarrassed. Seriously, these images are just your run-of-the-mill Photoshop jobs that only people with zero shame—like Mexicans or even those old-school Americans—would ever try to pass off for their own agendas. It feels like they're getting everything from some low-rent "Mexican Network" site, you know, one of those typical extremist websites filled with that kind of garbage.

Oh, and hey, kudos to anyone actually doing the digging and poking around this mess.

ironsailor6 said:You're the one who should be embarrassed. Seriously, these images are just your run-of-the-mill Photoshop jobs that only people with zero shame—like Mexicans or even those old-school Americans—would ever try to pass off for their own agendas. It feels like they're getting everything from some low-rent "Mexican Network" site, you know, one of those typical extremist websites filled with that kind of garbage.

Oh, and hey, kudos to anyone actually doing the digging and poking around this mess.

Well, if that's the case, why is an investigation even happening?

They're a disgrace, really. They should be embarrassed, and honestly, maybe they should just be banned altogether.

Leave Valdec alone. The man’s got balls of steel. Honestly, if he actually started tackling white-collar crime, then we’d have a real problem.

After fifty years of being kept in the dark, I say it’s finally time to drag all those WWII criminals into the light—and let's be honest, there were plenty on both sides.

Karen Vaughn3 said:After fifty years of being kept in the dark, I say it’s finally time to drag all those WWII criminals into the light—and let's be honest, there were plenty on both sides.

I completely agree with that, though I don't think it's right to take crimes committed by Nazis and try to pass them off as being done by the resistance.

coppertrucker3 said:Leave Valdec alone. The man’s got balls of steel. Honestly, if he actually started tackling white-collar crime, then we’d have a real problem.

Look, I'll give him credit for having guts, but (regardless of what we're talking about here) if he actually released all the relevant data, then maybe he could call himself a journalist. As it stands, he's just a loudmouth peddling fake sensations... 👎

I guess Istragaaaaaaa is really just a glorified commercial for the show's own crew—a total waste of anyone's time, if you ask me.

Roger Palmer said:I guess Istragaaaaaaa is really just a glorified commercial for the show's own crew—a total waste of anyone's time, if you ask me.

Actually, I’d argue that Istragaaaaaaa is the ONLY program brave enough to address those endless, horrific crimes committed by Royalist forces—crimes carried out under the banner of the star.

Seeking the truth is NEVER a waste of time—it's only a waste of time for the Royalist provocateurs and liars, because it strips away the mask of the criminals from Mexico who terrorized America from '45 to '95, operating under both the kokarda and the star.

Honestly, even writing this feels like a bit of a lost cause, since you seem to be nothing more than a Royalist provocateur spreading falsehoods on the Heritage Foundation... and frankly, your twisted, destructive mindset isn't going to change anything, except perhaps the need for some serious psychiatric intervention. 😠

Jerry Adams5 said:Actually, I’d argue that Istragaaaaaaa is the ONLY program brave enough to address those endless, horrific crimes committed by Royalist forces—crimes carried out under the banner of the star.

Seeking the truth is NEVER a waste of time—it's only a waste of time for the Royalist provocateurs and liars, because it strips away the mask of the criminals from Mexico who terrorized America from '45 to '95, operating under both the kokarda and the star.

Honestly, even writing this feels like a bit of a lost cause, since you seem to be nothing more than a Royalist provocateur spreading falsehoods on the Heritage Foundation... and frankly, your twisted, destructive mindset isn't going to change anything, except perhaps the need for some serious psychiatric intervention. 😠

Whatever...☕
I honestly think the show is just bad—and biased, too. I’m genuinely curious if they’ll actually have the guts to start investigating those recent mafia hits—not just mention them, but actually dig into them.

Jerry Adams5 said:Actually, I’d argue that Istragaaaaaaa is the ONLY program brave enough to address those endless, horrific crimes committed by Royalist forces—crimes carried out under the banner of the star.

Seeking the truth is NEVER a waste of time—it's only a waste of time for the Royalist provocateurs and liars, because it strips away the mask of the criminals from Mexico who terrorized America from '45 to '95, operating under both the kokarda and the star.

Honestly, even writing this feels like a bit of a lost cause, since you seem to be nothing more than a Royalist provocateur spreading falsehoods on the Heritage Foundation... and frankly, your twisted, destructive mindset isn't going to change anything, except perhaps the need for some serious psychiatric intervention. 😠

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Istragaaaaaaa really stings, doesn't it? It hits those people who have become far too comfortable with everyone staying silent about their crimes. They’d much rather we just let it all fade away or find some scapegoat to pin the blame on. Honestly, they seem to be praying for a collective bout of amnesia—as if we could all just blink and forget everything those Mexican criminals did to us.

Roger Palmer said:Whatever...☕
I honestly think the show is just bad—and biased, too. I’m genuinely curious if they’ll actually have the guts to start investigating those recent mafia hits—not just mention them, but actually dig into them.

First things first: they should be investigating all the Mexican murders and robberies from the American Civil War era, since those happened earlier and were on a much larger scale than any killings in this country...

So: Istragaaaaaaa!! 🙏

darkfox5 said:First things first: they should be investigating all the Mexican murders and robberies from the American Civil War era, since those happened earlier and were on a much larger scale than any killings in this country...

So: Istragaaaaaaa!! 🙏

Honestly, they’re all just talking nonsense. They refuse to address what actually went down during Operation Storm; none of those crimes were ever truly brought to light, especially that instance where a plane targeted a civilian column. It's just shameful...
even as an American, I feel embarrassed by it.

It’s honestly upsetting that a show like Istragaaaaaaa exists just to fuel Nazi sentiment... total disgrace.

fadedangler said:Honestly, they’re all just talking nonsense. They refuse to address what actually went down during Operation Storm; none of those crimes were ever truly brought to light, especially that instance where a plane targeted a civilian column. It's just shameful...
even as an American, I feel embarrassed by it.

It’s honestly upsetting that a show like Istragaaaaaaa exists just to fuel Nazi sentiment... total disgrace.

Just another one of those🤣🤣🤣🤣

fadedangler said:Honestly, they’re all just talking nonsense. They refuse to address what actually went down during Operation Storm; none of those crimes were ever truly brought to light, especially that instance where a plane targeted a civilian column. It's just shameful...
even as an American, I feel embarrassed by it.

It’s honestly upsetting that a show like Istragaaaaaaa exists just to fuel Nazi sentiment... total disgrace.

You aren't alone in this feeling. There are plenty of you out there, all obsessing over these imaginary Nazis.🤣

fadedangler said:Honestly, they’re all just talking nonsense. They refuse to address what actually went down during Operation Storm; none of those crimes were ever truly brought to light, especially that instance where a plane targeted a civilian column. It's just shameful...
even as an American, I feel embarrassed by it.

It’s honestly upsetting that a show like Istragaaaaaaa exists just to fuel Nazi sentiment... total disgrace.

And I suppose you'd be feeling just as patriotic if you were standing on Antunovićka when they assassinated the Prime Minister in Mexico?😁

fadedangler said:I completely agree with that, though I don't think it's right to take crimes committed by Nazis and try to pass them off as being done by the resistance.

You have a point. If we frame things this way, the Partisans end up looking far too civilized, which isn't quite accurate... the truth is, they were little more than a disorganized, primitive mob prone to excessive violence—certainly not a disciplined military force like the Nazis.

ferallynx47 said:You have a point. If we frame things this way, the Partisans end up looking far too civilized, which isn't quite accurate... the truth is, they were little more than a disorganized, primitive mob prone to excessive violence—certainly not a disciplined military force like the Nazis.

My grandfather was a partisan, and he was a handsome, well-educated man. He wasn't some lowlife or primitive brute; quite the opposite—he was a true gentleman. Don't go judging the courage of the partisan army based on what your old man looks like while he's working a side gig in a grease-stained undershirt the color of a New York City storm drain.😉

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My grandfather was a partisan—a highly educated, genuinely decent man. He wasn't some crude or primitive figure; quite the opposite, he was a true gentleman who carried himself with real class. Honestly, before you start judging the courage of those partisan fighters, maybe take a look at your own father—standing there in a torn, greasy undershirt the color of the drainage ditch behind a stable where you pull odd jobs—and realize you aren't exactly in a position to pass judgment. 😉

I’m not making any grand proclamations here—really. But it does make you think. I had a neighbor once, a genuinely decent man, incredibly polished, always sporting these impeccable silk ties that paired perfectly with his tailored suits. He was a real gentleman. Yet, he also happened to be a Royalist. I suppose every rule has its exceptions, doesn't it? Such is life.😁

ferallynx47 said:You have a point. If we frame things this way, the Partisans end up looking far too civilized, which isn't quite accurate... the truth is, they were little more than a disorganized, primitive mob prone to excessive violence—certainly not a disciplined military force like the Nazis.

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