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Is there a difference between Hitler and Bush?

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mistycyclist5 mistycyclist5 Active MemberOP
63 messages
joined Jul 2010
#1 ·
Alright, let's look at this... if you ask me, there isn't any meaningful difference between these two figures, because...

Did Hitler kill civilians? YES
Did Bush kill civilians? YES

Was Hitler an imperialist? YES
Was Bush an imperialist? YES

Did Hitler torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES
Does Bush torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES

The guilt of the people...

Did Hitler come to power through democratic means? NO
Did Bush come to power democratically and then get re-elected? YES

Go ahead, give me your thoughts... but I truly believe there’s no distinction here, other than the fact that Bush rose to the presidency by the will of the people and was subsequently voted back into office.😛
rowdytinker rowdytinker Active Member
55 messages
joined Jan 2008
#2 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Alright, let's look at this... if you ask me, there isn't any meaningful difference between these two figures, because...

Did Hitler kill civilians? YES
Did Bush kill civilians? YES

Was Hitler an imperialist? YES
Was Bush an imperialist? YES

Did Hitler torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES
Does Bush torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES

The guilt of the people...

Did Hitler come to power through democratic means? NO
Did Bush come to power democratically and then get re-elected? YES

Go ahead, give me your thoughts... but I truly believe there’s no distinction here, other than the fact that Bush rose to the presidency by the will of the people and was subsequently voted back into office.😛

Of course there isn't, not given where you are in your education. Once you hit fifth grade, you'll learn about racial supremacy, the concept of "living space," plans for the total extermination of specific ethnicities and social groups, concentration camps, and all that.
I'll catch you then. Take care.👍
mistycyclist5 mistycyclist5 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
rowdytinker said:Of course there isn't, not given where you are in your education. Once you hit fifth grade, you'll learn about racial supremacy, the concept of "living space," plans for the total extermination of specific ethnicities and social groups, concentration camps, and all that.
I'll catch you then. Take care.👍

Look, man, this PDF is literally titled "Madhouse," so just give me a straight yes or no answer instead of trying to send me back to elementary school. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you get to imply they're ignorant; honestly, your own signature tells me everything I need to know about you anyway.☕
rowdytinker rowdytinker Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#4 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Look, man, this PDF is literally titled "Madhouse," so just give me a straight yes or no answer instead of trying to send me back to elementary school. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you get to imply they're ignorant; honestly, your own signature tells me everything I need to know about you anyway.☕

My bad. I didn't realize you were being serious, and there's really no need to start crazy threads over this.
I had my doubts about whether you were actually being sincere. Take care.👍
Morgan Booth4 Morgan Booth4 Newcomer
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#5 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Alright, let's look at this... if you ask me, there isn't any meaningful difference between these two figures, because...

Did Hitler kill civilians? YES
Did Bush kill civilians? YES

Was Hitler an imperialist? YES
Was Bush an imperialist? YES

Did Hitler torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES
Does Bush torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES

The guilt of the people...

Did Hitler come to power through democratic means? NO
Did Bush come to power democratically and then get re-elected? YES

Go ahead, give me your thoughts... but I truly believe there’s no distinction here, other than the fact that Bush rose to the presidency by the will of the people and was subsequently voted back into office.😛

Hitler actually rose to power through democratic processes, specifically via elections.

As a representative of the German far-right, Hitler exploited the widespread discontent of much of the German population caused by economic instability and the heavy reparations imposed following World War I and his party secured victories in two consecutive parliamentary elections in 1932, after which, in 1933, Paul von Hindenburg appointed him Chancellor. A year later, in 1934, with the support of all German parties except the Democratic Party, he sidelined Parliament from the legislative process, effectively establishing a party and personal dictatorship. This culminated in 1939 with the initiation of wars of aggression and genocide against certain European nations, most notably the Jew (see: Holocaust).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#6 ·
rowdytinker said:Of course there isn't, not given where you are in your education. Once you hit fifth grade, you'll learn about racial supremacy, the concept of "living space," plans for the total extermination of specific ethnicities and social groups, concentration camps, and all that.
I'll catch you then. Take care.👍

Haven't you heard that Bush killed 6 million Muslims in camps? ☕
Not even worth arguing with idiots like this...
Ashley Carter63 Ashley Carter63 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#7 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Alright, let's look at this... if you ask me, there isn't any meaningful difference between these two figures, because...

Did Hitler kill civilians? YES
Did Bush kill civilians? YES

Was Hitler an imperialist? YES
Was Bush an imperialist? YES

Did Hitler torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES
Does Bush torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES

The guilt of the people...

Did Hitler come to power through democratic means? NO
Did Bush come to power democratically and then get re-elected? YES

Go ahead, give me your thoughts... but I truly believe there’s no distinction here, other than the fact that Bush rose to the presidency by the will of the people and was subsequently voted back into office.😛


There's no difference

1941—Hitler was our ally

2008—Bush was our ally

2038—Scandinavian countries will be...
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
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joined Sep 2009
#8 ·
Hitler hated Jews... Bush loves Jews
End of discussion.

Oh, and one more thing... at least Hitler loved his own people, whereas Bush doesn't really have a nation that gives a damn about him.
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#9 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Haven't you heard that Bush killed 6 million Muslims in camps? ☕
Not even worth arguing with idiots like this...

During Bush's eight years in office, easily more than 6 million people died across the Third World because of imperialistic American foreign policy.
Between famine, disease, and terrorism...
If you ask me, Bush is an even bigger criminal because he manages to pull all this off during peacetime.
Noah Barrett13 Noah Barrett13 Member
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joined May 2009
#10 ·
I guess Bush was pretty dim, and Hitler was just plain insane.

The person who started this thread seems to be both.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#11 ·
goldentrucker17 said:During Bush's eight years in office, easily more than 6 million people died across the Third World because of imperialistic American foreign policy.
Between famine, disease, and terrorism...
If you ask me, Bush is an even bigger criminal because he manages to pull all this off during peacetime.

Are we sure about that? Like, actually sure? What's the catch?
So, why’d you go and pick that up from some buddies of yours who work construction?
Or maybe just some random news site online?
People are actually starving, fighting wars, and dealing with terrorism in Third World countries, but honestly, it’s not much different from how things were during Clinton's era or any other time since Europeans walked away from their colonies.
goldentrucker17 goldentrucker17 Active Member
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#12 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Are we sure about that? Like, actually sure? What's the catch?
So, why’d you go and pick that up from some buddies of yours who work construction?
Or maybe just some random news site online?
People are actually starving, fighting wars, and dealing with terrorism in Third World countries, but honestly, it’s not much different from how things were during Clinton's era or any other time since Europeans walked away from their colonies.

Look, Clinton is a criminal just like pretty much every other US president in the 20th century.
But we're talking about Bush here.
Ryan Bailey78 Ryan Bailey78 Member
11 messages
joined Jul 2010
#13 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Look, man, this PDF is literally titled "Madhouse," so just give me a straight yes or no answer instead of trying to send me back to elementary school. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you get to imply they're ignorant; honestly, your own signature tells me everything I need to know about you anyway.☕

Wait, does that avatar actually feature a picture of that notorious war criminal Josip Frank?!😠
lonecrane6 lonecrane6 Member
27 messages
joined Sep 2009
#14 ·
Noah Barrett13 said:I guess Bush was pretty dim, and Hitler was just plain insane.

The person who started this thread seems to be both.

Man, whatever... I guess if Bush was actually that stupid he wouldn't have been President of the USA, but being a slightly warmongering piece of trash? Yeah, I can live with that. 🤣

And if Hitler was just crazy, he wouldn't have been the Fuhrer... I mean, maybe a little "madness" is okay in small, healthy doses. 😂
rowdytinker rowdytinker Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#15 ·
goldentrucker17 said:During Bush's eight years in office, easily more than 6 million people died across the Third World because of imperialistic American foreign policy.
Between famine, disease, and terrorism...
If you ask me, Bush is an even bigger criminal because he manages to pull all this off during peacetime.

🙏🙏😂😂
Dennis Brown2 Dennis Brown2 Member
26 messages
joined Nov 2009
#16 ·
If you look at it from that perspective, pretty much every American, Soviet—or Russian, later on—as well as many Chinese, British, and French presidents and prime ministers, could be quite comfortably labeled as war criminals or mass murderers.
And don't even get me started on the generals.

Of course, everything is relative here. We could easily descend into some endless philosophical debate about human nature, the definition of war versus politics, whether war can ever truly be justified, and so on and so forth. Ultimately, it all hinges on who is looking at the situation, how they are viewing it, and what their specific political or personal lens might be.
James Turner80 James Turner80 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#17 ·
Is there really a distinction between Caesar and Hitler?
hiddensurfer17 hiddensurfer17 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2010
#18 ·
mistycyclist5 said:Alright, let's look at this... if you ask me, there isn't any meaningful difference between these two figures, because...

Did Hitler kill civilians? YES
Did Bush kill civilians? YES

Was Hitler an imperialist? YES
Was Bush an imperialist? YES

Did Hitler torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES
Does Bush torture civilians and suspected dissidents? YES

The guilt of the people...

Did Hitler come to power through democratic means? NO
Did Bush come to power democratically and then get re-elected? YES

Go ahead, give me your thoughts... but I truly believe there’s no distinction here, other than the fact that Bush rose to the presidency by the will of the people and was subsequently voted back into office.😛

Personally, I feel that if someone is going to start a discussion, they should at least have a basic grasp of the fundamental facts first.
James Gonzalez19 James Gonzalez19 Newcomer
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#19 ·
There is one distinction! Hitler possessed a certain brk—or something to that effect
rowdytinker rowdytinker Active Member
55 messages
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#20 ·
hiddensurfer17 said:Personally, I feel that if someone is going to start a discussion, they should at least have a basic grasp of the fundamental facts first.


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