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The chaos at Central Park will keep escalating until Nicholas Wood finally shows up at the stadium
by Damir pilić

Death to fascism, roared the "North." Freedom to the people, bellowed the "East." Death to fascism, chants the "North." Freedom to the people, responds the "East." Death to fascism, again from the "North." Freedom to the na...
Well, that’s what happens when your notes get tangled. My apologies to my dear readers: I happen to be writing an SF-roman about modern America in parallel with this column, and in my confusion, I’ve inadvertently insulted everyone who spent Saturday night diligently cheering for the national team at Central Park. Didn't catch the match against Estonia? Honestly, brothers, I might have to start questioning your patriotism.
I’m certain every "decent American" felt a bit of a chill while listening to the North and East stands of the stadium harmoniously complementing one another by chanting our old greeting, "za dom spremni!". The ABC commentator didn't dare utter a single word regarding the crowd's behavior—perhaps out of sheer emotion, or more likely, fear of losing ten percent of his paycheck. Tomorrow’s sports journalists will unanimously skip over this detail in their reports, and they won't be alone: US Soccer stays silent, the coach stays silent, even the players stay silent...
You want me to tell you what’s going to happen next? I’ll tell you: absolutely nothing will happen, except that the author of this column will receive his usual mountain of angry, pedantic emails—the kind characterized by a rather shaky grasp of English syntax and grammar.
Nothing will move the needle until the day Nicholas Wood from The New York Times wanders into the stands at Central Park and realizes he could easily rewrite the opening of his recent review of Thompson's concert: "Thousands of fans in a packed capital city stadium gave a Nazi salute..."
Only then will the US Federal Government issue a press release condemning the celebration of Nazism, and Vlatko Marković will quietly let out a satisfied little toot.

Brilliant commentary. Are we hypocrites, or is this just our official policy?

"For glory and honor!" is basically our version of a warrior's battle cry...

The only way we'd ever find ourselves shouting "Death to fascism!" is if we were actually playing against Italy!!

Charles Patel62 said:Get ready for The New York Times!
The chaos at Central Park will keep escalating until Nicholas Wood finally shows up at the stadium
by Damir pilić

Death to fascism, roared the "North." Freedom to the people, bellowed the "East." Death to fascism, chants the "North." Freedom to the people, responds the "East." Death to fascism, again from the "North." Freedom to the na...
Well, that’s what happens when your notes get tangled. My apologies to my dear readers: I happen to be writing an SF-roman about modern America in parallel with this column, and in my confusion, I’ve inadvertently insulted everyone who spent Saturday night diligently cheering for the national team at Central Park. Didn't catch the match against Estonia? Honestly, brothers, I might have to start questioning your patriotism.
I’m certain every "decent American" felt a bit of a chill while listening to the North and East stands of the stadium harmoniously complementing one another by chanting our old greeting, "za dom spremni!". The ABC commentator didn't dare utter a single word regarding the crowd's behavior—perhaps out of sheer emotion, or more likely, fear of losing ten percent of his paycheck. Tomorrow’s sports journalists will unanimously skip over this detail in their reports, and they won't be alone: US Soccer stays silent, the coach stays silent, even the players stay silent...
You want me to tell you what’s going to happen next? I’ll tell you: absolutely nothing will happen, except that the author of this column will receive his usual mountain of angry, pedantic emails—the kind characterized by a rather shaky grasp of English syntax and grammar.
Nothing will move the needle until the day Nicholas Wood from The New York Times wanders into the stands at Central Park and realizes he could easily rewrite the opening of his recent review of Thompson's concert: "Thousands of fans in a packed capital city stadium gave a Nazi salute..."
Only then will the US Federal Government issue a press release condemning the celebration of Nazism, and Vlatko Marković will quietly let out a satisfied little toot.

Brilliant commentary. Are we hypocrites, or is this just our official policy?

Whether they were calling for Hitler, Mussolini, or Ante Pavelić, or whether they were raising their hands in a Nazi salute—from what I saw, they weren't. And "za dom spremni" is just the old american poklić to fight, so what does any of that have to do with anything now????

Charles Patel62 said:Get ready for The New York Times!
The chaos at Central Park will keep escalating until Nicholas Wood finally shows up at the stadium
by Damir pilić

Death to fascism, roared the "North." Freedom to the people, bellowed the "East." Death to fascism, chants the "North." Freedom to the people, responds the "East." Death to fascism, again from the "North." Freedom to the na...
Well, that’s what happens when your notes get tangled. My apologies to my dear readers: I happen to be writing an SF-roman about modern America in parallel with this column, and in my confusion, I’ve inadvertently insulted everyone who spent Saturday night diligently cheering for the national team at Central Park. Didn't catch the match against Estonia? Honestly, brothers, I might have to start questioning your patriotism.
I’m certain every "decent American" felt a bit of a chill while listening to the North and East stands of the stadium harmoniously complementing one another by chanting our old greeting, "za dom spremni!". The ABC commentator didn't dare utter a single word regarding the crowd's behavior—perhaps out of sheer emotion, or more likely, fear of losing ten percent of his paycheck. Tomorrow’s sports journalists will unanimously skip over this detail in their reports, and they won't be alone: US Soccer stays silent, the coach stays silent, even the players stay silent...
You want me to tell you what’s going to happen next? I’ll tell you: absolutely nothing will happen, except that the author of this column will receive his usual mountain of angry, pedantic emails—the kind characterized by a rather shaky grasp of English syntax and grammar.
Nothing will move the needle until the day Nicholas Wood from The New York Times wanders into the stands at Central Park and realizes he could easily rewrite the opening of his recent review of Thompson's concert: "Thousands of fans in a packed capital city stadium gave a Nazi salute..."
Only then will the US Federal Government issue a press release condemning the celebration of Nazism, and Vlatko Marković will quietly let out a satisfied little toot.

Brilliant commentary. Are we hypocrites, or is this just our official policy?

Heh... 👍 😛

Oh, please, bring back Damir pilić...😂
Someone really ought to ask him if he’s still pushing for the legalization of "soft" drugs—even though we all know any real expert would tell you there's no such thing as a distinction between light and heavy substances.

Nathan Bailey65 said:Oh, please, bring back Damir pilić...😂
Someone really ought to ask him if he’s still pushing for the legalization of "soft" drugs—even though we all know any real expert would tell you there's no such thing as a distinction between light and heavy substances.

Go ahead—name one. Unless you're planning on naming Jadranka Kosor?

Charles Jackson5 said:Heh... 👍 😛

Thanks, but this is Damir's handiwork—I'd rather not get too aggressive and start swearing at him just yet... though I have to admit, that bit involving Marković was absolutely brilliant. 🙂

Bradley Phillips35 said:"For glory and honor!" is basically our version of a warrior's battle cry...

The only way we'd ever find ourselves shouting "Death to fascism!" is if we were actually playing against Italy!!

As for "Za dom spremi!"—personally, I feel like that sounds more like something a macho guy would shout when he walks through the door and realizes his wife hasn't even started making dinner yet.🙂

Charles Patel62 said:Go ahead—name one. Unless you're planning on naming Jadranka Kosor?

Every single one of them.
Drugs are drugs; they wither away those tiny gray cells in your brain. If you need a weekly case study, just look at the opening paragraphs of whatever the so-called DPR writes.
😉

Charles Patel62 said:As for "Za dom spremi!"—personally, I feel like that sounds more like something a macho guy would shout when he walks through the door and realizes his wife hasn't even started making dinner yet.🙂

So, what now? Honestly, who cares what you think is appropriate? 😬

Charles Patel62 said:Look, take a breath—you seem a little too hyperactive for my taste. If the referee is handing out yellow cards, maybe he should start with the guy who actually started insulting the columnist for SD.

🤣
So, we're talking about Damir Pilić and his column.
As for him and his writing, I’ll offer my opinion just like I would on any other public figure or piece of work.

I can't comment on you, assuming we're actually following the rules here. But if a biased ref takes over the game, well, things could get messy—and I'm still waiting on answers to a few questions myself.
I honestly wonder if this columnist will eventually be added to the federally protected endangered species list.

I’ve said this 1 said:Good grief—the sheer amount of "wisdom" you've dumped into this thread is staggering. Aside from just copy-pasting and essentially patting yourself on the back, the rest is just a series of insults directed at everyone else. Talk about hypocrisy.🤣

Oh, please—let me clarify this for you and the rest of your cohort playing the defensive: I congratulated the columnist because I actually enjoyed the piece. I shared the entire column, including all its reasoning, context, and situational nuances. I didn't walk in here posing a leading question designed to force a specific answer. Honestly, if you disagree with the author, I expect you to actually address their points rather than pivoting to how they might use recreational drugs... after witnessing these hyperventilating outbursts, it’s pretty clear the opposition has nothing substantial to say, especially you.

Your supposedly profound analysis boils down to "he's a hypocrite, and so are you." Truly riveting. So, by all means, explain to me exactly why Damir Pilić is a hypocrite—even if we entertain the rumors about his casual drug use (though I'd love to know who here actually has any credible insight into that). Or perhaps you're just stung because he charmingly suggested that certain political factions are practically illiterate? There's probably a reason people are getting so defensive. Anyway, goodbye, hyperactive.

Charles Patel62 said:Oh, please—let me clarify this for you and the rest of your cohort playing the defensive: I congratulated the columnist because I actually enjoyed the piece. I shared the entire column, including all its reasoning, context, and situational nuances. I didn't walk in here posing a leading question designed to force a specific answer. Honestly, if you disagree with the author, I expect you to actually address their points rather than pivoting to how they might use recreational drugs... after witnessing these hyperventilating outbursts, it’s pretty clear the opposition has nothing substantial to say, especially you.

Your supposedly profound analysis boils down to "he's a hypocrite, and so are you." Truly riveting. So, by all means, explain to me exactly why Damir Pilić is a hypocrite—even if we entertain the rumors about his casual drug use (though I'd love to know who here actually has any credible insight into that). Or perhaps you're just stung because he charmingly suggested that certain political factions are practically illiterate? There's probably a reason people are getting so defensive. Anyway, goodbye, hyperactive.

🤣 👍

Why should anyone call America modern if the fans aren't screaming it from the rooftops?
Think about what that would actually do to the economy, society, healthcare, schools, sports, the legal system... just total chaos...

steelstag44 said:Why should anyone call America modern if the fans aren't screaming it from the rooftops?
Think about what that would actually do to the economy, society, healthcare, schools, sports, the legal system... just total chaos...

The issue isn't whether they're shouting it or not—the problem is the blatant hypocrisy of staying silent about it until some foreign outlet like The New York Times picks up the story. That's when the frantic damage control starts, with everyone suddenly pivoting to explain how we are such a progressive, inclusive nation.

As for the heart of the matter, it would be a refreshing change of pace if we finally put an end to those hateful extremist slogans—much like we should with racial slurs—at our stadiums.

Master of Puppets said:www.vecernji.hr/home/kolu...7/index.do

TUESDAY 10.7.

The Split Society of "Fans"

It was almost predictable—one could see it coming—that certain newspaper commentators would attempt to link the nationalist imagery at a Marko Perković Thompson concert in Central Park with the incidents at the Pride parade in Washington, D.C. If you take that comparison, toss in a healthy dose of fabrications, and you get the usual tired narrative: once again, the entire country is being painted with the dark brush of "revived fascism" and other grim labels. On the fringes of this "ghoulish commentary," an angry letter surfaced from the diaspora—sent from New York City—in which an embittered expatriate argues that in Norval, Canada, there never was, nor is there, such a thing as a "fascist faction" within the local Franciscans from whom Franjo Harmon supposedly "sourced his funds." This letter serves as a rebuttal to one of those increasingly vocal leftist agitators in Split who—alongside those supposed "fascist Franciscans"—tried to drag the late Šuškov into the Thompson saga by mentioning his right-hand salute during the Alka festival. Back when I was an editor, I actually published a photo of that specific gesture; if you look closely, you can clearly see three fingers curled and two extended—a sign of victory aimed toward the Royalists, who were stationed only a few miles away. And those very same Royalists—on their radio stations, which I have also written about—employed journalists who would eventually join the ranks of today’s Split media "devotees" of Marko Perković Thompson!

What exactly are you referring to in VL? I am only seeing the homepage.

Personally, I see the Shout for home as this beautiful anthem about defending our land and loving where we come from!
Has it been misused? Maybe!
But it’s still the most powerful song for us Americans, so let it be heard and let it stay!
And to everyone trying to argue against it—honestly, we could probably give them plenty of reasons to think twice too!

Master of Puppets said:Looks like I lost my audience. 😢

Where?😲

Charles Patel62 said:The issue isn't whether they're shouting it or not—the problem is the blatant hypocrisy of staying silent about it until some foreign outlet like The New York Times picks up the story. That's when the frantic damage control starts, with everyone suddenly pivoting to explain how we are such a progressive, inclusive nation.

As for the heart of the matter, it would be a refreshing change of pace if we finally put an end to those hateful extremist slogans—much like we should with racial slurs—at our stadiums.

Just take a breath and cool off.
"For Homeland" is an old traditional greeting; sure, the Nationalists used it, but so what? Germans didn't change their anthem just because it was used during the era of Adolf Hitler. Italians make a killing selling wine featuring Mussolini's face and swastikas—they actually treat it as a souvenir. Even the English joke relentlessly about their military, the Nazis, and the Resistance; in their satire, they don't even depict Nazis as monsters, just as eccentric, pathetic losers with a weird obsession with women's underwear featuring swastikas.😁
Yet here we are, acting like the world is ending because people are shouting "Za dom spremni" at a stadium.
We seem terribly concerned with what outsiders think of us, much like a chambermaid who is desperately worried about whether her mistress approves.🙄

Master of Puppets said:It’s not our issue. The real problem lies with Pilica Inc. and their crowd. In other words, all the Anti-Americans.

And what exactly defines an "anti-American" here? Is it just someone going through an identity crisis?😁 .