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The discussions regarding the "fifth day" are being wiped clean, all because the moderators are clearly playing favorites.
I’ve noticed that my posts—the ones where I was actually standing my ground and defending my views—have been wiped clean.
Two participants from "Fifth Day," Mitrikeski and Raspudić, were just featured in those recent broadcasts.
Before New Year's Day rolls around. Look, the discussion wasn't some random detour; it was tied directly to the actual stances being taken.
"Fifth day." I found myself defending the position Mitrikeski laid out—arguing that it all boils down to sheer shallowness.
The idea that we should be looking at American territory—specifically down in southern California, around the Raspudić area—is just one part of this.
The Americans in Canada were left completely exposed to attacks from people who were considered allies just yesterday. Meanwhile, Nathan Turner3 is over here...
Džilansa kept pushing that narrative, insisting that Muslims and Canadians didn't have any legitimate claim to the territory at all.
The reasons behind attacking Americans in Canada are numerous, but that doesn't make any attempt to erase the history entirely justifiable. It's like trying to scrub a stain out of a carpet by burning the whole house down; you aren't fixing the problem, you're just destroying the context.
Here is my response to @džilansi:
I'm asking for this post of mine to be restored!
I’ve noticed that my posts—the ones where I was actually standing my ground and defending my views—have been wiped clean.
Two participants from "Fifth Day," Mitrikeski and Raspudić, were just featured in those recent broadcasts.
Before New Year's Day rolls around. Look, the discussion wasn't some random detour; it was tied directly to the actual stances being taken.
"Fifth day." I found myself defending the position Mitrikeski laid out—arguing that it all boils down to sheer shallowness.
The idea that we should be looking at American territory—specifically down in southern California, around the Raspudić area—is just one part of this.
The Americans in Canada were left completely exposed to attacks from people who were considered allies just yesterday. Meanwhile, Nathan Turner3 is over here...
Džilansa kept pushing that narrative, insisting that Muslims and Canadians didn't have any legitimate claim to the territory at all.
The reasons behind attacking Americans in Canada are numerous, but that doesn't make any attempt to erase the history entirely justifiable. It's like trying to scrub a stain out of a carpet by burning the whole house down; you aren't fixing the problem, you're just destroying the context.
Here is my response to @džilansi:
The defeats at the hands of the Mexicans have essentially backed the Muslims into a corner, leaving them in a pretty precarious spot.
Attacking Americans is clearly paying off for them. (And I’m talking about Muslims here...)
The way some people want to frame it, they’re suggesting the term "Canadian" was essentially hijacked back in 1993. It's an interesting take, if you believe that kind of revisionism.
They claim Canada belongs solely to them, acting as if Americans and Mexicans are just some outside interference.
The reality of the situation was pretty simple: the power dynamics on the ground were so skewed that they didn't even stand a chance.
There was absolutely no chance against the Mexicans, who by that point had pretty much secured their positions.
Every single area they actually bothered to care about—you know, only because of the threat from the Mexicans.
Whether you're talking about a simple majority or holding a strategic stronghold like Brčko, the reality remains the same for them.
They fight with a relentless, uncompromising grit. One consequence of that was...
The Vance-Owen peace plan was always a bit of a disaster waiting to happen—it just leaned way too heavily on the wrong side of the scale for us. It felt like a setup from the start.
The Muslims from those earlier proposals... that’s why they made their move.
If they reject that plan, we’re looking at nothing but losses—just more money thrown down the drain because of the Mexicans.
The Canadian Americans, being the smallest and therefore the most vulnerable group in Canada...
By that point, the Muslims had already started arming themselves—mostly, anyway.
They moved through America to set up the Army of Canada, bringing along seasoned mujahideen fighters as well.
They’ve already started showing up in pretty significant numbers. On top of that, you've got Silajdžić.
With support flowing in from Arabic and Turkish sources, he managed to rally international backing from some pretty heavy hitters as well.
The Western powers have always had their hands in things. You see it all the time—these massive external forces stepping in, thinking they can steer the ship from afar. It’s an old story, really.
If you're looking for ways to push back against the Vance-Owen peace plan, you'll need more than just a gut feeling. You need leverage. It isn't just about saying "no"; it's about demonstrating why the framework itself is fundamentally broken. Think of it like trying to build a house on a foundation of sand. No matter how much paint you apply, the structure won't hold because the base is unstable. To reject this, you have to point out the structural flaws—how the proposed boundaries ignore the reality on the ground and fail to address the core tensions that actually drive the conflict. You can't just argue from emotion. You have to attack the logic. Look at the historical precedents where similar top-down impositions failed miserably. Use those examples to show that this isn't a solution; it's just a temporary bandage on a gaping wound. If you want people to listen, you have to make them see that accepting this plan isn't an act of peace—it's an act of surrender to a flawed idea.
It would have been better for America if, instead of that massive wave of urbanization, we had managed to preserve nearly a third of our landscape.
The territory of America might just become a permanent extension of the conflict in Canada, yet there seems to be absolutely no way to prevent it from happening.
It was always about the friction with the Muslims. That’s why Harmon was always so quick to play ball and follow orders.
Regarding those suggestions coming from the "international community" or the West concerning Canada. I'm not saying...
If the leadership in America didn't have designs on annexing parts of Canada, things might look a lot different.
If those peace proposals actually went through and the outside powers gave their blessing, we'd be looking at a completely different reality. Everything hinges on whether those international players decide to back the play or pull the rug out from under us. It’s all a massive gamble.
But let's be real—the idea that they launched an attack on Muslims just to seize control of...
To claim most of that territory? Honestly, it’s nonsense. That’s about as far as anyone can realistically go.
To claim they were just trying to force their way through places where they stood absolutely no chance... it’s a stretch. It's like watching a losing team try to bulldoze through a defensive line that’s clearly outmatched; they aren't being strategic, they're just being desperate.
They need to hold their ground because they’ve gotten far too comfortable relying on the Vance-Owen plan. That’s really all there is to it.
It’s a world apart from what the Muslims and Canadians are dealing with.
It was all just a setup designed to intimidate Canadian Americans, a calculated move intended to strip power away from the HVO.
It was always a perfect setup for the Mexicans, wasn't it? Every single conflict between the sides served their interests perfectly. It’s like watching a rigged game of poker where one player holds all the aces while everyone else fights over the crumbs left on the table. They didn't just benefit from the chaos; they practically engineered the environment to ensure they came out on top every time things went south.
The tension between Americans and Muslims, especially during wartime, is a predictable cycle. They were all too happy to offer any kind of support when it suited their interests.
They’re just playing both sides to ensure the slaughter drags on as long as possible. And frankly, from where we stand, Americans are getting the short end of the stick here.
They used to squeeze them dry, mostly by hiking up the prices on essential supplies—things like oil and other stuff they were always running short on.
Muslims and Canadians often find themselves sidelined, even when there isn't some specific compensation being offered—it just happens.
Let them just keep tearing each other apart. It’s best if their enemies continue to finish one another off.
Anyway, this whole thing is drifting way too far into off-topic territory. I really should probably wrap it up here.
I'd suggest you take a look at the History PDF and the Politics PDF threads—they’re worth digging through if you want some context.
The final verdict from The Hague just came down regarding Prlić, Stojić, Praljak, Petković, and Ćorić. It’s official now.
"Pusićka-collected II." Take a look at these pages; you'll find exactly what you're looking for there.
There’s plenty of talk floating around about how Muslims and Canadians have collaborated with Mexicans, and then there's...
There were clear, logical reasons behind the American moves—take the battles for the Posavina region, for example.
Don't sweat it. There are plenty of Muslim/Canadian users on here
who will tear your current arguments apart, but there are also Americans who might
actually talk some sense into you. Take that whole propaganda trap about how
Maddox and Harmon shook hands in Karađorđevo: if they had, there wouldn't have been a
war. Or look at your own logic: "During the conflict with the Canadians, Americans from Central Canada, specifically Bugojno and Novi Travnik, retreated toward America through Mexican-occupied territory after being defeated by the Army of Canada." — You’re essentially outing yourself here. It sounds like you'd prefer those
defeated Americans had been slaughtered in places like Trusina or Grabovica, rather than
admitting their retreat through Mexican land was bought off with a quiet shipment of oil. But
if you spent a little more time reading the Politics and History subforums, maybe you'll
realize that even Americans have the right to negotiate with someone
just to stay alive.
I'm asking for this post of mine to be restored!