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Alejandro Jodorowsky

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brightseal3 brightseal3 MemberOP
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An Ashkenazi Jew originally from the little coastal town of San Diego, Jodorowsky moved to Seattle at just thirteen years old because he was absolutely obsessed with the theater, eventually spending some time working as a clown and a puppeteer. By twenty-six, he headed off to Paris to study pantomime under the legendary Marcel Marceau. He actually cut ties with his parents during that time, and while he worked quite a bit with Maurice Chevalier, most people remember him for his adaptation of Thomas Mann's drama, 'The Severed Head' (1957)—a film that, sadly, is now lost to time.
He eventually crossed paths with the surrealists and, in 1962, founded the 'Panic movement,' which celebrates the god Pan—and yes, that’s actually where we get the word "panic" from! Throughout the sixties, the panickers staged these incredibly provocative happenings that would later find their way into Jodorowsky's cinematic style—think stuff like slaughtering geese and rabbis on stage alongside a naked woman covered in honey, or chickens crucified on crosses and giant anatomical imagery, all while live turtles are being tossed into the audience.

During this era, Jodorowsky was busy writing plays, hitting up avant-garde theaters in both Paris and Mexico City, and working on the comic 'Fabulas Panicas.' He soon jumped into directing his first feature—a surrealist love story about Fando and his paralyzed lover Lis as they hunt for the mythical city of Tara, titled 'Fando y Lis' (1967). This film became famous for causing absolute chaos at the Acapulco film festival, and just a few weeks later in Mexico, the government officially banned it, nearly getting the director deported for good. If that had actually happened, it probably would have crushed Jodorowsky or at least pivoted his career entirely, since he ended up filming almost everything right there in Mexico.

Just three years later, he released 'el Topo' ('mole'), the film that crowned him the unofficial king of midnight movies, and then three years after that came 'The Holy Mountain' (1973). Both of these works achieved massive cult status, not just because of their wild and controversial imagery, but because they were practically impossible to see in the USA until 2004 due to the rights being held by the Beatles' manager, Allen Klein. Actually, Allen picked up the rights for his ABKCO Films after being talked into it by John Lennon, who was a huge fan of Jodorowsky's work, though Allen later proved to be a pretty difficult collaborator due to various disagreements with Alejandro.


source: excerpt taken from http://www.filmski.net/dossier/296

...honestly, I think most cinephiles have heard of him; he's definitely controversial and isn't exactly everyone's favorite guy... here is a quote from him himself:

If you are a good person, then 'el Topo' is a good film; but if you are limited, then 'el Topo' is limited.
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#2 ·
This director has such a singular, polarizing personality. You either fall completely under his spell or you just don't get it—there's no middle ground. As far as I'm concerned, he's a pure genius in three of his films, which, as you so accurately pointed out, have achieved an almost unthinkable cult status.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#3 ·
just a bit too out there for my taste

I’ve sat through three of his movies... personally, I found Santa Sangre to be the most digestible
wiredbison82 wiredbison82 Active Member
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#4 ·
"el Topo" is a strange film—strangely captivating, in its own way. It happens to be the only Jodorowsky film I've ever sat through.🙂
Gerald Wright8 Gerald Wright8 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Great, but heavy. Definitely not your typical chill Sunday afternoon watch 😬

Santa Sangre is easily one of the best films I've ever seen
Jesse Palmer78 Jesse Palmer78 Newcomer
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#6 ·
"I have to say something very important, monsieur. We are disgusting. All of us are so wonderful. And so disgusting." That quote perfectly captures the essence of Jodorowsky's mastery. Honestly, how do you even wrap your head around a man with such fascinating visions? Every time I dive into his work, it feels like reaching into a box of exquisite, intricate threads of pure imagination... I'm constantly surprised. And then there's the way he carries himself—that calm, charming demeanor during interviews. It's something else. 🥳 😍
Henry Lee84 Henry Lee84 Member
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#7 ·
Jodorowsky is constantly teetering right on that razor-thin line between pure genius and total insanity...

I just can't wrap my head around it. I honestly don't have the patience to sit through one of his movies more than once. 🙂
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#8 ·
I could probably handle Santa Sangre
--but I wouldn't touch The Holy Mountain or el Topo with a ten-foot pole.
Michael Lopez2 Michael Lopez2 Newcomer
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#9 ·
I’m a fan of Jodorowsky. *el Topo* is one of those wild westerns, though I find the subtext a bit elusive; besides his signature religious and tarot imagery, I assume it touches on Mexican history and politics, which I don't know much about. That’s why I prefer *The Holy Mountain*—it feels more universal without all the niche references.

Jodorowsky tends to overdo it sometimes, but I guess that’s just part of the charm. *Incal* was terrible for me.
slybison6 slybison6 Member
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#10 ·
I was just wondering if anyone knows if there are any e-books available online by this author?
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#11 ·
Tried watching el Topo again... gave up on it.
Man, what a mess.
slybison6 slybison6 Member
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Lawrence Booth2 said:Tried watching el Topo again... gave up on it.
Man, what a mess.

Honestly, I’m not even really feeling the movie vibe lately. My heart is more in books, specifically the ones that have been translated from other languages.
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#13 ·
I actually have a copy of where the bird sings beautifully sitting right here. I can send it over to you if you want...
slybison6 slybison6 Member
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#14 ·
Jessica Morris6 said:I actually have a copy of where the bird sings beautifully sitting right here. I can send it over to you if you want...

Go ahead and send it my way. I'll shoot you a private message.
Sarah Miller4 Sarah Miller4 Member
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#15 ·
Have you ever sat through any films by this director?
el Topo, The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre.
A true stylist and surrealist... his take on reality is unique, psychedelic, and drenched in hallucinations...

His themes often circle back to critiques of religion and anti-fascism.
It makes you wonder how many fans, followers, or even detractors Jodorowsky commands these days...
vividstag16 vividstag16 Member
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#16 ·
I’ve sat through his entire filmography, and honestly? Only one really hit the mark for me: "Santa Sangre".
Some of his other work is just physically grueling to watch, which, in my book, makes them utterly pointless.
That said, Jodorowsky himself is such a fascinating character. Listening to him is a genuine trip—he’s this massive enthusiast, a total dreamer. If you haven't seen that documentary about his failed attempt to film *Dune*, you absolutely need to. It’s gripping, and while you can't help but feel bad that the project fell apart, if we’re being realistic, wouldn't it have been a colossal disaster in the end?
Sarah Miller4 Sarah Miller4 Member
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#17 ·
His films are woven with satire and grotesque elements, occasionally leaning into a circus-like atmosphere reminiscent of Felinija.
He critiques organized religion, embraces anti-fascism, and at times seems to glorify anarchy and nihilism...
Watching them can be difficult; they are periodically nauseating, even stomach-turning.
They truly provoke a sense of visceral disgust...
The figure of Christ lingers through his work, manifesting as both victim and catalyst.
His work isn't for everyone, but it certainly holds a unique place in cinematic history.
He didn't make many films, mostly because he refused to compromise on his vision.
That lack of flexibility made securing funding incredibly difficult...
It was a struggle to convince any producer to back him.
Sarah Miller4 Sarah Miller4 Member
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#18 ·
mole, holy blood.
Sarah Miller4 Sarah Miller4 Member
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#19 ·
Santa Sangre

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Paul Anderson7 Paul Anderson7 Active Member
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#20 ·
After hearing so much about his unique vision regarding Dino, I finally decided to dive into his filmography. I started with Holy Mountain, which was made a few years prior, and I have to say, it’s incredibly captivating.
To be honest, it didn't immediately spark a massive urge to binge his entire catalog, though I am starting to reconsider. Capturing Dino on film would be a tall order because he's such a singular individual, but I can't help but wonder how he'd tackle adapting the book. Having read it myself, I think translating that story to the screen would be an uphill battle—maybe even impossible. The fact that he hasn't actually read the book suggests he's aware that he might miss the mark, and honestly, I think he's right; it probably wouldn't satisfy die-hard fans of the novel. It likely wouldn't hit the mark with a mainstream audience either, given just how distinct and idiosyncratic his style is.

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