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All-Time Draft 8: Official Thread

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Participants Charles Roberts33John Fowler2feralmarlin67Lawrence Turner2Paul Sullivan14rowdybison4mistycrane10Frank Patel42Jonathan Johnson2Jamie Perez3casualpanther6Nancy Wood98Paul NguyenMichelle Vaughn32Ryan Ortiz24bluebadger61Amy Howard48shadowgull19Michael Newman13Daniel Rogers3copperbison9Richard Wilson9
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1 ·
First off, good grief, you lot.

The waiting game is finally over. It was meant to be ☕

Lately, our gaps between releases have been stretching out. This one took its sweet time, too. The new leadership decided to shake things up with some updates—modernizing the format to cater to newer generations with shorter attention spans who find the classic draft a bit too tedious.

I assume everyone is more or less familiar with the fundamentals of drafting, building rosters, and setting lineups. If anyone is still feeling lost, they can do so right
here.

Everything I mentioned in the pre-draft post still stands.

What has changed is that for this edition, we’re playing in anonymous mode. How does that work?

It’s pretty straightforward: every participant will be assigned an alias, and their draft results will be posted under that name in the official thread.

Contestants should send their proposals to me via private message using their actual usernames. You can still use your real handles in the chatter thread to debate criteria, player picks, or team builds.

A little discretion is advised here. Another twist to the anonymity is that any player can try to guess which forum member is hiding behind a specific alias. If you guess correctly, you get to take a player of your choice as a reward (provided they aren't protected, which we'll discuss later). If you guess wrong, you lose one player to the contestant you failed to unmask.

Example:

-Contestant 2 thinks the user 'GamerOS99' is actually Team 6. If they're wrong, Team 6 gets to take one player from Contestant 2 as compensation.

You can avoid losing your star picks by earning "raid repellent", a prize available during the competition for successfully completing rounds. It protects one player for the entire season. We'll also have other rewards for top-tier play.

All "call-outs" and transfers through admins must happen via PM; nothing is to be done publicly. Only the resulting transactions will be posted in the official thread. Feel free to drop hints in the chat about who might be who.

Everyone gets three attempts at the "guess who" game. Because of this, there are no roster size restrictions, though every manager must have a minimum of 12 players.

One more thing: there won't be any fluff in the presentations. We'll stick to a generic format: formation, a brief summary of player quality, and tactical ideas—all kept to a single sentence. But we'll get to that when the time comes.

Most importantly, do not mention unbanned players in the chat thread. (I'd put an exclamation point there if I had one on my keyboard. 😉)

Alright, I think that covers the essentials. If I missed anything or if something is unclear, let me know. Sign-ups can start in the chatter thread, and we'll kick off somewhere between the 20th and the 1st.

Links to previous editions:

ATD 1 - winner callahan4

ATD 2 - winner Engineer

ATD 3 - World Cup Special Edition - winner lester

ATD 4 - Born after Dec 31, 1971 Special Edition - winner LeGriffio

ATD 5 - World Cup Special Edition - winner VodkaM

ATD 6 - winner LeGriffio

ATD 7 - winner Mr. Jigsaw
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#2 ·
Good heavens, grant us strength.

It’s time for the community bulletin.

Registration officially closed today.

We have 24 participants on the roster.

Listed below in order of sign-up, in honor of the group:

Feanor16
VodkaM
Uncle Jonny
Doran Martell
Koloun
Engineer
Sesve
Mone8
Crow89
Ervi34
Winter Snake
GojkoVeličanstveni
Lester
Mister N0

Mr. Jigsaw
LeGriffio
Feenian
Kal-El
Ajutokintumi
ronac zg
dplazin2
Ster
Woodgate
Put99


There are 20 seasoned, battle-hardened drafters here, along with four newcomers who deserve a standing ovation for stepping into this arena without fully knowing the rules yet. While many veterans hesitated slightly 🙂, I hope you all channel that classic American pioneer spirit—the kind that drove explorers like Lewis and Clark across the uncharted frontier. 🙏.

Since February is always a bit chaotic, and with the season feeling even more unpredictable than usual, we will be playing under aliases. You can choose from the following list of legendary NFL coaches:

Chuck Noll
Tom Landry
Don Shula
Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Belichick
Vince Lombardi
Dan Reeves
Mike Holmgren
Bill Parcells
George Seifert
Jimmy Johnson
Tom Coughlin
Bill Walsh
Mike Ditka
Marty Schottenheimer
Tony Dungy
Bill Belichick
Paul Nguyen
Mike Shanahan
Jim Harbaugh
Andy Reid
Sean Payton
Mike Tomlin


There won't be any fuss regarding these aliases. You cannot request a specific coach, nor will we match players to coaches based on personality traits—that would just make everyone too easy to identify. The point of these pseudonyms isn't to be the center of attention, but to facilitate anonymous drafting. Everyone will receive an alias via private message, chosen at random, which you will use for the game.

The first round begins Wednesday.

I wish you all luck with your picks; I hope most of you make it through to the end. I am available if anyone has questions, especially our new players.

Thanks a lot, stay healthy. Cheers. Any comments?

None here. ☕.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#3 ·
Good grief, give me strength.

Let's dive into the first criterion. As I mentioned before—and as per tradition—we’ll start with something relatively straightforward. I want to keep the initial digging to a minimum so new players can grasp the concept without a headache.

The goal is simple:

Select a player who earned at least one cap for a national team that no longer exists, or for a nation that isn't currently recognized by FIFA, or perhaps wasn't recognized by FIFA at the time they actually took the field.


To ensure your pick is validated, you'll need to send the following via private message within the deadline:

1) A link to a Wikipedia biography for the player.

or

A match report in English that confirms the validity of your selection.

The participant who garners the most upvotes for their choice (following the standard rule of one vote per forum member) will win a prize: once during the competition, specifically in the third (final) round, they will have the right to see everyone else's picks before submitting their own.

The deadline is Friday, February 18th, at 11:59 PM.

Consider the games officially open.

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Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#4 ·
It looks like I failed to clarify one thing when setting the criteria: I don't view modern Germany as some brand-new nation or even a direct successor to West Germany, but rather as the result of a massive rebranding effort.

Now you know.☕
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#5 ·
God bless the warriors ☕

That first round was a real nail-biter. To blow off a little steam before we drop the results, I think we could all use a quick musical interlude.



Once that's over, we'll head back into the studio with the numbers.

See you all in two minutes and 42 seconds.

LP
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#6 ·
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BANNED PLAYERS
Johan Cruyff x8
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Andrés Iniesta
Matthias Sammer

The deadline is tomorrow—well, technically today, Feb 19th at 10:00 PM.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#7 ·
Blessings to everyone, hope you're all doing well.

I suspect most of you are already completely exhausted by these criteria.

Honestly, what better way to settle the nerves than with some healing music while we wait for the final results to roll in? 😉



We’ll be back with the results in exactly four minutes.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#8 ·
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BANNED PLAYERS:
Johan Cruyff
Alfredo Di Stéfano
Andrés Iniesta
Johan Neeskens
Matthias Sammer

After the absolute chaos of the last round, we’ve actually seen much better progress in this new phase.

Five candidates have until tomorrow at 2:00 PM to save themselves from the ungrateful fate of being stuck dragging the weight of the group since the very first round.

So, I'll leave them with a single quote to keep them humble before the final showdown. Nothing is ever truly lost; it's always darkest before the dawn. 😉

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As for everyone else, just know that the new criteria are ready. A little hint: the spotlight is finally being turned toward those smaller soccer nations. As for what that means exactly? That will be revealed tomorrow.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#9 ·
If Mark Stevens doesn't submit his peak during the next two rounds (1.3 and 2.1), he’ll be disqualified.

Should that happen, you’re all welcome to reach out via DM with suggestions for a replacement. I'll keep whoever you propose strictly confidential until the competition wraps up.

I'd also suggest we stick to this principle if possible: instead of just banning a player's peaks when they get disqualified, we let a new contestant take over their roster. They can try to make the best of what's there—under a fresh alias, of course.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#10 ·
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Since Stanko made it clear there’s no point in waiting on him, I’m posting the results now. My afternoon is officially mine.

Try to make your picks count. The player who manages to rack up the most aces wins a "Ask the Boss" joker. That allows them to ask me once during the third round whether their peak will clear or get blocked.

rowdybison4 is picking sheepish Blaz Sliskovic—he sent me the suggestion via DM. Jonathan Johnson2 is going with Roy Ferench. Then we have the usual suspects, Stanko Mrsic.

rowdybison4 is looking for someone who played for Great Britain, while Jonathan Johnson2 and Paul Nguyen are hunting for players from the old US National Team era.

The new criteria is:

Find a player who scored against representatives from small nations like Luxembourg, Malta, Iceland, Andorra, or Cyprus in the Champions League or European Cup since its inception, or in the UEFA Cup or Europa League from 1995 onwards.

For a pick to be valid, you must:
- Provide a link to the match including the scorers list.

That’s all.

The deadline for submitting peaks is Tuesday, Feb 22nd, at 10:00 PM.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#11 ·
Community updates.

The sheep have been separated from those who failed to make it through the first round.

copperbison9 drew Luka Lipošinović.

Blaž Slišković Aaron Ramsey

Stanko Mršić Dejan Govedarica.

In my rush to get the final results posted, I completely neglected to include the list of banned and selected players.

So,

BANNED PLAYERS:
Johan Cruijff
Alfredo Di Stefano
Andres Iniesta
Johan Neeskens
Mathias Sammer

SELECTED PLAYERS:
Vladimir Beara
Oleg Blokhin
Sergio Busquets
Rinat Dasajev
Dragan Džajić
Ryan Giggs
Dejan Govedarica
Laszlo Kubala
Luka Lipošinović
Bixente Lizarazu
Josef Masopust
Stanley Matthews
Predrag Mijatović
Darko Pančev
Sergio Ramos
Dejan Savičević
Dragan Stojković
Luis Suarez Miramontes
Aaron Ramsey
Velibor Vasović
Nemanja Vidić
Fadil Vokrri
Lev Yashin
Andoni Zubizarreta

A quick note for the newcomers: these players are now officially out of the competition and can no longer be picked.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
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joined Feb 2022
#12 ·
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Based on the sheer number of aces secured, Lev Yashin was the standout pick from the first round—definitely a step up from Kubala 😉.

As a reward, Richard Wilson gets the "Ask the Coach" joker. This allows him once during the competition—specifically during the third and final drafting round—to ask me whether his intended target will be available or blocked, allowing him to adjust his strategy accordingly.

A joker is also being handed out in this round as well.

The player whose selection earns the most aces gets the power to override other players' blocks once during the tournament.
Essentially, whoever holds this joker can secure their target even if someone else tries to block them in the same round. The joker itself only cancels one block, but the total number of successful peaks achieved in the first round determines how much "muscle" the joker has, increasing the number of blocks that can be bypassed.
For instance, if someone successfully picks three times in the first round, they could use this joker to override three different players' blocks, but not four.

The holder of this joker must explicitly declare their intent to use it when submitting their peak for a player they anticipate will face heavy competition.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#13 ·
Well, it’s only been one round and we’re already looking at our first coaching change. Because the team failed to meet the basic contractual obligations, Team 14 has decided to part ways with their current coach, Stan Mršić. The veteran strategist couldn't manage to hit a single peak, so Dejan Govedarica was essentially dropped into his spot.

Tomislav Stipić is stepping in to take over the reins.

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His very first words upon taking the job? "I've got plenty of time on my hands right now, so why not?"

To avoid any unnecessary complications following this late addition, the new competitor won't be participating in the chat thread and is strictly prohibited from trying to guess the identities of the other participants.

Results will be posted tonight at 10:00 PM.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#14 ·
Hey everyone, sorry I’m running late—was sprinting just to catch up ☕

Just need a moment to splash some water on my face, clear my head, and crunch these numbers before I get back to you with the results. In the meantime, enjoy this track 😉:

Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#15 ·
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NEWLY BANNED PLAYERS:

Luka Modrić
Eusebio
Michel Platini
Gerd Muller
Karl-Heinz Rummenige

BANNED PLAYERS:
Johan Cruijff
Alfredo Di Stefano
Andres Iniesta
Johan Neeskens
Mathias Sammer

SELECTED PLAYERS:
Vladimir Beara
Oleg Blokhin
Sergio Busquets
Rinat Dasajev
Dragan Džajić
Ryan Giggs
Dejan Govedarica
Laszlo Kubala
Luka Lipošinović
Bixente Lizarazu
Josef Masopust
Stanley Matthews
Predrag Mijatović
Darko Pančev
Sergio Ramos
Dejan Savičević
Dragan Stojković
Luis Suarez Miramontes
Aaron Ramsey
Velibor Vasović
Nemanja Vidić
Fadil Vokrri
Lav Yašin
Andoni Zubizarreta

deadline for those wanting a rematch is tomorrow Feb 23 at 10:00 PM
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#16 ·
Good heavens, bless you all

It looks like most of you are preoccupied with following the UN proceedings.

We’ll stick to our usual routine of breaking the tension by playing some music before the results drop. I think it’s only fitting right now to play something in honor of our lovely winner, hoping she carries that momentum through to her big performance on the world stage.



(this new track is garbage; long-time fans will always prefer the classics)
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#17 ·
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New banned player:

Berti Vogts

The deadline for the final round is tomorrow at 10:00 PM.

Good luck to everyone.
John Fowler2 John Fowler2 Member
39 messages
joined Nov 2021
#18 ·
What even is this? Put the MLS on the top topics list instead.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#19 ·
Tijs, you're the moderator here—get this loser off my screen.
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 RegularOP
287 messages
joined Feb 2022
#20 ·
Final round results coming up in exactly 3 minutes and 44 seconds.



Stay safe out there—some people were great, some weren't, but we all made it through. ☕

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