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Are we overmedicating?

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Gerald Walker7 Gerald Walker7 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Aug 2008
#1 ·
An American veteran recently asked a licensed psychiatrist about potential side effects from a new combination of medications he was prescribed, and he put it quite brilliantly:

"They say Xanax and Helix can be addictive, but I don't think that’s really a concern. If I’m sick, it’s only natural that I’d depend on medication. I’m not taking these because I’m healthy and want to feel "crazy"
but rather to keep this miserable PTSD under control. People who abuse these drugs aren't worth mentioning; they just waste taxpayer money that should go to those of us who actually need it. Here's an idea—call me crazy if you want—but I think anyone with a formal PTSD diagnosis should be put into inpatient care for a month, where they take their prescribed therapy UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF A PSYCHIATRIST. It might seem like an expensive experiment at first, but I'm pretty sure the results would show themselves well before the month is up. Right now, you just pick up the meds, count the days, grab the next dose, and meanwhile, everything ends up in the trash. You might find it funny, but I'm one hundred percent right about this.


And she gave him a "very brilliant" response, the kind any doctor would give:
"It would be best if you contacted your primary psychiatrist to discuss your current treatment plan, which is appropriate. Regarding Helix iXanax, they are essentially the same medication; the generic name is Alprazolam, but the brand names differ because they come from different manufacturers. Therefore, the reactions to these drugs shouldn't vary. We also suggest that you focus on helping yourself recover rather than worrying about other people's problems; let us doctors handle the treating.
"


I've been spending the last week scouring various forums and websites looking for info on depression and the use of various medications, and honestly, what I've found is pretty shocking. But then again, maybe I shouldn't even care. Even my grandmother has a home pharmacy filled with a million pills she only tosses when they expire; she doesn't take them, she just can't remember which one is for what when you ask her. But she's an elderly woman. On the other hand, it feels pretty sad to see more and more young people relying on endless medications for every little thing. Are we really overmedicating, or are we just a sick and depressed nation?
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
183 messages
joined Jan 2008
#2 ·
This survey is kind of a mess. It makes it seem like you don't need pills for chronic conditions at all, and then there’s this "as needed" option—which really should be renamed to "occasionally"—meaning you take it whenever there's an actual reason to.
There isn't even a choice for "infrequent" or "rarely" use.

Look, speaking from experience—I try to dodge medication as much as I possibly can, but when things get serious, they get serious. There's no joking around. If I have a toothache so bad I start seeing stars (yeah, that’s actually happened to me), I’ll grab some ibuprofen.
But if it's just a muscle ache? I'm not touching a pill; I'll just deal with it, massage it out, whatever.
Same goes for headaches. Usually, I won't take anything. But if a massive headache hits—which, thank God, doesn't happen often—then I'll go for aspirin.
Gerald Walker7 Gerald Walker7 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Alright, maybe I didn't phrase my questions quite right, but I don't really get this part: "It turns out you don't have to use pills for chronic illnesses". What's that supposed to mean? Obviously, people with chronic conditions need to manage their health with medication and take them regularly. I thought I was clear when I used "as needed" in parentheses—to me, that essentially means "sometimes." But anyway.
Personally, I take pills with a bit of caution, much like you do. I actually try to stick to natural remedies—you know, those old-school home remedies—😁 and only turn to medication if those don't work. That said, I have friends who can list off a whole pharmacy of meds by heart, knowing exactly what everything does; honestly, they carry a literal drugstore in their purses every single day. Isn't that a bit much? I also know people who love playing doctor, giving each other unsolicited advice on what to pick up at CVS. Since so many prescription drugs are accessible, it seems a little risky for one's health to me.
Gerald Walker7 Gerald Walker7 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Are you all seriously speechless on this topic? I find that hard to believe.
Joshua Patel14 Joshua Patel14 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2008
#5 ·
I try to steer clear of pills whenever I possibly can. It’s common knowledge that any medication comes with its own set of side effects and downsides. Most people tend to go overboard with painkillers and various other tablets, taking them way more often than they actually need to. You can't just take someone's word for it when they say they're hurting, but there are folks out there who will reach for a pill the second they feel even a tiny itch, and instead of solving anything, they’re just poisoning themselves. To make matters worse, they start building up a tolerance, which just forces them into a cycle of needing even stronger drugs to get the same effect.
Gerald Walker7 Gerald Walker7 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2008
#6 ·
True enough. Kids pick up everything from their parents, including how they view pain and medication. My stepdaughter is thirteen and just headed off on a school trip, and she gets nauseous basically every single time we travel. I tried to offer her something for the ride, but she shot me down, claiming her friend brought a whole pharmacy along for the trip. Honestly, listening to her list everything she had was almost enough to make me feel lightheaded myself. The girl packed an entire drugstore in her backpack. I mean, look, you never know what might happen when you're traveling, right? It’s probably better to be prepared. But when I suggested that, she just rolled her eyes and said, "Ugh, she always has a mountain of pills on her. If her head aches a little, she pops one; if her throat feels scratchy, she pops another; then her stomach hurts, it's just too much!" 😲
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
312 messages
joined Jun 2006
#7 ·
If I’m actually hurting, I'll pop a pill—but honestly, I rarely deal with much pain at all🙂
electrichound24 electrichound24 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2008
#8 ·
People tend to overdo it sometimes. I’ve dealt with this chronically, so I was on Peptoran 2 every single day for two years. Threw in some Nexium here and there too. It was just what I needed at the time. My doctor even told me that if it's necessary, then it's fine. Now that I've stopped, I feel great. At least until the heartburn or whatever hits me again. If it even does. The truth is, you can often help yourself without reaching for a pill. Personally, I’m one of those people who wants to grab an aspirin for every little headache.
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#9 ·
placidjackal36 said:This survey is kind of a mess. It makes it seem like you don't need pills for chronic conditions at all, and then there’s this "as needed" option—which really should be renamed to "occasionally"—meaning you take it whenever there's an actual reason to.
There isn't even a choice for "infrequent" or "rarely" use.

Look, speaking from experience—I try to dodge medication as much as I possibly can, but when things get serious, they get serious. There's no joking around. If I have a toothache so bad I start seeing stars (yeah, that’s actually happened to me), I’ll grab some ibuprofen.
But if it's just a muscle ache? I'm not touching a pill; I'll just deal with it, massage it out, whatever.
Same goes for headaches. Usually, I won't take anything. But if a massive headache hits—which, thank God, doesn't happen often—then I'll go for aspirin.


man, but you seriously don't know what a *real* killer headache feels like if you're just trying to fix it with Advil 😉
velvetgull9 velvetgull9 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#10 ·
brisknomad6 said:man, but you seriously don't know what a *real* killer headache feels like if you're just trying to fix it with Advil 😉

That’s exactly what I was trying to say! I guess! 😁

So, staying on topic—I've dealt with some pretty nasty pain in my life, and I guess I really don't want to make that any worse. I'm not exactly a pushover who just gulps down meds for fun, but I'm also not gonna wait until I'm literally dying before I try to help myself, you know? The only real exception is my migraines. I definitely jump on those right away, since catching them early is way more effective than waiting for the pain to totally wreck me!

Aside from my daily meds for that chronic thing I deal with, I probably only pop like two or three pills a month, mostly just for some back or muscle aches. So, I guess it’s not really that much, maybe?

Honestly, I'd much rather just pop a pill from a big name like Pfizer that I know'll kick in fast, instead of waiting around for some bat wing salve or herbal tea to actually do anything. I guess it's just easier! 😉 Yeah, that's just the pain part. For everything else, I usually try to tackle my health stuff with better food and lifestyle tweaks, you know? I guess it actually works pretty well most of the time!
quietpilot87 quietpilot87 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#11 ·
Pills are fine—and necessary sometimes. As long as you’re the one calling the shots, not the other way around. That’s when they’re definitely 👍

Bottom line? Big Pharma is making a killing off this. Not great. Look, I’m not saying ditch meds entirely—that’d be reckless. But you gotta know what you’re swallowing and when 👍

Are people overmedicating? In my book, yeah. Too much.
velvetgull9 velvetgull9 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#12 ·
My mom basically single-handedly funds a couple of massive pharma giants like Pfizer; she lives on pills, and honestly, her favorite thing is hitting up those new CVS self-service aisles to just go wild through the aisles 😁 😁 And man, you can't even convince her most of it is total junk, because she thinks those flashy commercials are way more legit than anything I say. It sucks, really—they just lure seniors into blowing their whole Social Security check on these "miracle" supplements 👎
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#13 ·
Ugh... honestly, just thinking about it gives me the creeps... my late grandpa was exactly like that...
One little cough and he’d be rushing straight to the doctor, demanding a whole handful of pills right then and there... and if they didn't work by morning? Boom, he'd be calling in all the specialists in the country...

I guess that's why I ended up being the total opposite😁

I mean, I seriously can't stand doctors or taking meds, it's just not my thing
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
183 messages
joined Jan 2008
#14 ·
I don't know what to tell you. Some people just walk through life expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter without ever putting in the work. It’s like watching someone try to drive a truck through a snowstorm in a sedan—you can see the disaster coming from a mile away, but they just keep pressing the gas anyway. You can't expect results if you aren't willing to deal with the grit. It's basic logic. kaže:
I try to stay away from pills as much as possible. I’m really not a fan of living my life one capsule at a time, if you know what I mean. It feels like the moment you start relying on a little plastic bottle sitting on your nightstand, you’ve already lost a bit of that natural edge. It’s a bit like how people rely too much on GPS these days—sure, it gets you to the destination, but eventually, you forget how to actually read a map or trust your own gut. I’d much rather focus on the actual fuel I’m putting in my body and just keeping things balanced naturally before I have to reach for the heavy hitters. Look, it’s a proven fact: every single medication out there has a downside. There isn't a pill in a pharmacy from New York to LA that doesn't come with some kind of catch. It’s like buying a high-performance truck—sure, it gets you where you need to go faster, but you’re paying for it in gas mileage and maintenance. Everything is a trade-off. You take something to fix one problem, and you're almost certainly introducing a new variable into the equation. It's just basic math. People tend to go overboard with painkillers way more often than they should. It’s becoming a real problem. Honestly, you can't always take someone's word for it when they claim they're in pain, because some folks will reach for an Advil or a Tylenol the second they feel a tiny itch on their eyelash. It’s a slippery slope. Not only are they essentially poisoning themselves, but they also end up building up a tolerance. Before you know it, those standard over-the-counter stuffs don't do a damn thing anymore, and they're stuck needing increasingly heavy-duty prescriptions just to get through the day.

Man. 😬
That’s just pure bullshit, if you ask me. 😉
Every medication comes with its own set of baggage. It’s like buying a used car—sure, it gets you from point A to point B, but you better be prepared for that mysterious rattle coming from under the hood or the way the AC cuts out when it hits ninety degrees. You don't just take a pill and call it a day; you enter into a bit of a negotiation with your own biology. Every single drug has its trade-offs, its little quirks, and those annoying side effects that feel like they were designed just to test your patience. It's all about weighing whether the benefit actually outweighs the headache. Side effects. It’s funny how people act like they’re immune to them until they actually hit. You can read all the fine print you want, stare at the warning labels until your eyes blur, but once that stuff is in your system, reality starts looking a little different. It’s like when you drive a car through a massive thunderstorm in the Midwest—you think you’ve got a handle on the road, then suddenly the visibility drops to zero and you realize you weren't nearly as prepared as you thought you were. Everything shifts. People always talk about the "intended use" like it’s a guarantee, but there's always that shadow side. It’s a bit like taking a shortcut through a construction zone in Chicago; sure, you might save ten minutes, but you’re probably going to end up with a dented bumper or a headache from the constant jackhammering. You take the risk, knowing full well there's a cost, but nobody likes being surprised when the bill comes due.It can get pretty dangerous in certain scenarios—take an overdose, for instance. That’s when things really go south.

brisknomad6 said:man, but you seriously don't know what a *real* killer headache feels like if you're just trying to fix it with Advil 😉

Did I mention that my headache finally cleared up completely? 😉
I’m trying to dial back the pain, and honestly, popping some Advil helps a bit. But it doesn't exactly kill the sensation entirely. It just brings it down to a level where I can actually function without losing my mind.
brisknomad6 brisknomad6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#15 ·
placidjackal36 said:
I don't know what to tell you. Some people just walk through life expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter without ever putting in the work. It’s like watching someone try to drive a truck through a snowstorm in a sedan—you can see the disaster coming from a mile away, but they just keep pressing the gas anyway. You can't expect results if you aren't willing to deal with the grit. It's basic logic. kaže:
I try to stay away from pills as much as possible. I’m really not a fan of living my life one capsule at a time, if you know what I mean. It feels like the moment you start relying on a little plastic bottle sitting on your nightstand, you’ve already lost a bit of that natural edge. It’s a bit like how people rely too much on GPS these days—sure, it gets you to the destination, but eventually, you forget how to actually read a map or trust your own gut. I’d much rather focus on the actual fuel I’m putting in my body and just keeping things balanced naturally before I have to reach for the heavy hitters. Look, it’s a proven fact: every single medication out there has a downside. There isn't a pill in a pharmacy from New York to LA that doesn't come with some kind of catch. It’s like buying a high-performance truck—sure, it gets you where you need to go faster, but you’re paying for it in gas mileage and maintenance. Everything is a trade-off. You take something to fix one problem, and you're almost certainly introducing a new variable into the equation. It's just basic math. People tend to go overboard with painkillers way more often than they should. It’s becoming a real problem. Honestly, you can't always take someone's word for it when they claim they're in pain, because some folks will reach for an Advil or a Tylenol the second they feel a tiny itch on their eyelash. It’s a slippery slope. Not only are they essentially poisoning themselves, but they also end up building up a tolerance. Before you know it, those standard over-the-counter stuffs don't do a damn thing anymore, and they're stuck needing increasingly heavy-duty prescriptions just to get through the day.

Man. 😬
That’s just pure bullshit, if you ask me. 😉
Every medication comes with its own set of baggage. It’s like buying a used car—sure, it gets you from point A to point B, but you better be prepared for that mysterious rattle coming from under the hood or the way the AC cuts out when it hits ninety degrees. You don't just take a pill and call it a day; you enter into a bit of a negotiation with your own biology. Every single drug has its trade-offs, its little quirks, and those annoying side effects that feel like they were designed just to test your patience. It's all about weighing whether the benefit actually outweighs the headache. Side effects. It’s funny how people act like they’re immune to them until they actually hit. You can read all the fine print you want, stare at the warning labels until your eyes blur, but once that stuff is in your system, reality starts looking a little different. It’s like when you drive a car through a massive thunderstorm in the Midwest—you think you’ve got a handle on the road, then suddenly the visibility drops to zero and you realize you weren't nearly as prepared as you thought you were. Everything shifts. People always talk about the "intended use" like it’s a guarantee, but there's always that shadow side. It’s a bit like taking a shortcut through a construction zone in Chicago; sure, you might save ten minutes, but you’re probably going to end up with a dented bumper or a headache from the constant jackhammering. You take the risk, knowing full well there's a cost, but nobody likes being surprised when the bill comes due.It can get pretty dangerous in certain scenarios—take an overdose, for instance. That’s when things really go south.

Did I mention that my headache finally cleared up completely? 😉
I’m trying to dial back the pain, and honestly, popping some Advil helps a bit. But it doesn't exactly kill the sensation entirely. It just brings it down to a level where I can actually function without losing my mind.


man, I gotta disagree again 😉

using aspirin for a massive headache is kinda like trying to fix a deep gash with a tiny Band-Aid, you know? 😬

but hey, if it works for you, then whatever, it works. 👍
velvetrider16 velvetrider16 Newcomer
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#16 ·
I don't touch medication. Not even antibiotics in the last six months. My one exception? Sinus headaches. They are absolutely brutal because I had sinus surgery, and the pain is just unbearable now—honestly, at one point they were even checking me for MS because of how intense those pains felt 🙄
Usually, I try to dodge pills by reacting immediately with drops or ointments, but occasionally I just take the path of least resistance. That happens maybe once every six months... I actually took a pill this past weekend because I was traveling and didn't feel like suffering through it for two hours.

I don't take anything else. Even dental work? I go through it all without anesthesia, except for extractions—and I only had to use it once for that. Everything else is raw. I even had my damn sinuses operated on while fully awake, though that wasn't exactly my choice 🙂
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#17 ·
velvetrider16 said:I don't touch medication. Not even antibiotics in the last six months. My one exception? Sinus headaches. They are absolutely brutal because I had sinus surgery, and the pain is just unbearable now—honestly, at one point they were even checking me for MS because of how intense those pains felt 🙄
Usually, I try to dodge pills by reacting immediately with drops or ointments, but occasionally I just take the path of least resistance. That happens maybe once every six months... I actually took a pill this past weekend because I was traveling and didn't feel like suffering through it for two hours.

I don't take anything else. Even dental work? I go through it all without anesthesia, except for extractions—and I only had to use it once for that. Everything else is raw. I even had my damn sinuses operated on while fully awake, though that wasn't exactly my choice 🙂

Which specific sprays or ointments are you using to help manage that?
velvetrider16 velvetrider16 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2010
#18 ·
jadesailor14 said:Which specific sprays or ointments are you using to help manage that?

Tiger Balm stings... while those menthol-based drops, packed with thirteen other essential oils, tend to soothe inflammation.
Gerald Walker7 Gerald Walker7 MemberOP
17 messages
joined Aug 2008
#19 ·
I’ve actually met someone who is completely dependent on pills, and it’s honestly terrifying. After a tragic family loss, she spiraled into a deep depression and started mixing her antidepressants with alcohol. When things finally hit the breaking point, her family sent her to a rehab facility, but there doesn't seem to be a cure—they just keep her stabilized with even more medication. She’s often disoriented, incoherent, and sometimes looks like she’s having a stroke. I realize she went through an unimaginable tragedy, but much like an addict, she’s basically just a zombie now. It’s a heavy situation, and I suppose there's a reason it happened in the first place.
But how can kids and teenagers even think about playing around with these chemicals? Honestly, it feels surreal watching them treat it like a game, passing around stuff like, "Hey, give me that blue one, or maybe the red one, or even the yellow one." 😲😲😲
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
183 messages
joined Jan 2008
#20 ·
brisknomad6 said:man, I gotta disagree again 😉

using aspirin for a massive headache is kinda like trying to fix a deep gash with a tiny Band-Aid, you know? 😬

but hey, if it works for you, then whatever, it works. 👍

The thing is, not all headaches come from the same place. Mine can be triggered by certain smells. It still hurts pretty bad, but it's not quite at that "curled up in bed clutching my skull" level of misery. A little bit of the placebo effect mixed with some acetylsalicylic acid and I can usually push through. Luckily, it doesn't happen to me very often. 🙏

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