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Arrogance or insecurity?

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slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?
Gerald Hernandez5 Gerald Hernandez5 Newcomer
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#2 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

I actually view those as the words of a remarkably candid person, because I suspect most people harbor similar views of themselves, yet they worry about the impression they leave on others, since anyone with even a modicum of common sense knows that such an attitude is generally off-putting to society.
Sandra Parker3 Sandra Parker3 Regular
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#3 ·
You can't really determine if someone is being sincere just based on a single statement

Honestly, it’s usually just a way of being condescending, if you ask me
Instead of saying, "I have a pretty high opinion of myself, but I honestly don't think I'm capable enough to handle..."
They just opt for a vague "I don't know" or "That's a tough question" or whatever else...
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
So, was his goal to be repulsive, or is he just genuinely thick or dim-witted?
I wouldn't go so far as to call him stupid, though I can't deny he made some professional blunders—mistakes I actually warned him about.
But he is certainly odd and hard to read.
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Sandra Parker3 said:You can't really determine if someone is being sincere just based on a single statement

Honestly, it’s usually just a way of being condescending, if you ask me
Instead of saying, "I have a pretty high opinion of myself, but I honestly don't think I'm capable enough to handle..."
They just opt for a vague "I don't know" or "That's a tough question" or whatever else...

I didn't want to go into too much detail in my opening post, but he was essentially trying to tell me how highly he thinks of himself, and to me, it just came off as pathetic and insecure.
It wasn't even arrogant; it was just laughable.
Sandra Parker3 Sandra Parker3 Regular
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#6 ·
Yeah, I find that pretty hilarious too 🙂
But honestly, I've got no clue how that actually helps you...
briskskipper71 briskskipper71 Member
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#7 ·
Arrogance almost always goes hand in hand with insecurity, I guess. This whole statement is just ridiculous because actually knowing something has absolutely nothing to do with "having a high opinion of yourself."
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#8 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

To me, those sound perfectly normal. If they were actually trying to prove they were smart (and weren't), they would have started lecturing about something they know nothing about—which is what 90 percent of people do anyway.

Generally speaking, insecure yet arrogant people never admit they don't know something. They always try to fudge the details. This person just admitted they aren't capable, implying they feel they *should* be, but they simply aren't. 🤷

In my view, it's fine. (Though I'm only judging based on the words, not the tone. Maybe the words were reported incorrectly.)
Sam Hayes Sam Hayes Active Member
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#9 ·
I suppose I might go as far as to say you seem a bit unsure about things yourself...
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
There was a misunderstanding here. I wasn't entirely clear in my previous message. I didn't actually ask him a question, so he didn't realize that; that's why he responded the way he did. It was just a standard sentence where he was repeating what I had already stated, followed by something I neglected to mention: "...that I would have time to read it all."
He could have simply said, "I won't be able to get through all of this," without bringing his own opinions or personal capabilities into the conversation.

To me, that whole self-reflective intro felt awkward and completely irrelevant to the point.
Andrew Barrett4 Andrew Barrett4 Active Member
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#11 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

To me, it sounds like someone who actually knows where their limits are.
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#12 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

At first glance, it almost sounds reasonable—like they just know their own limits, as one commenter noted—but I suspect the real motive behind a sentence like that is to take a jab at someone else. It seems to imply that the person being compared isn't up to the task, while simultaneously sneaking in the claim that they themselves are somehow superior. It’s a bit of a backhanded way to assert dominance, I suppose.

It would probably be much more honest to just say, "I know how much can realistically be accomplished in a certain timeframe, and I know this isn't feasible."
Nathan Kelly5 Nathan Kelly5 Active Member
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#13 ·
He can spin a hundred different thoughts and view himself through a hundred different lenses; there’s no way you could deconstruct a single sentence like that, let alone me.

Just because someone chooses to phrase things a certain way doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I haven't the slightest clue.
I don't know.
I don't have the time.
Impossible.
No chance.
Sorry, I just can't get to it.
I'm afraid I'm simply not up to the task.
I usually consider myself quite sharp, but this is impossible.
I have high opinions of my own intellect, but this is genuinely difficult.

Why does the way he phrased it interest you so much?
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#14 ·
Nathan Kelly5 said:He can spin a hundred different thoughts and view himself through a hundred different lenses; there’s no way you could deconstruct a single sentence like that, let alone me.

Just because someone chooses to phrase things a certain way doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I haven't the slightest clue.
I don't know.
I don't have the time.
Impossible.
No chance.
Sorry, I just can't get to it.
I'm afraid I'm simply not up to the task.
I usually consider myself quite sharp, but this is impossible.
I have high opinions of my own intellect, but this is genuinely difficult.

Why does the way he phrased it interest you so much?

I agree with this. Why are you so desperate for us to confirm his insecurity?
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
Jerry Martinez5 said:I agree with this. Why are you so desperate for us to confirm his insecurity?

I simply want to verify my own interpretation and impression.
Does this strike others the same way it did me, or do people perceive those words differently?
The sentence itself felt odd to me—almost redundant and quite absurd—but I was clearly struck by the fact that he delivered it with total sincerity. It caught me off guard, which is why I felt the need to comment.
In a professional setting, most people wouldn't say something like that to a colleague they maintain a strictly formal relationship with, even if they privately believed they were geniuses.
My friends and inner circle have told me I'm smart before, sure, but saying it in such a formal context comes across as eccentric at best.
To me, it's strange; to someone else, it might seem perfectly normal.🤷
swiftcobra71 swiftcobra71 Newcomer
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#16 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

Man, it's pretty tough to pin down exactly how your coworker was feeling in that moment because, besides just the words, you'd need a bit more like their body language, eye contact, facial expressions, and all that stuff to really know. No one can give you a perfect read based on just a sentence, but looking at what you wrote, here's my take. It sounds most likely like an insecure outburst from someone who, for reasons only you know, feels lesser than when they're around you. It’s hard to judge much from just a couple of posts, but the way you framed this question makes it feel like you really know/think this colleague is insecure—probably because you've picked up on it in other situations too. Honestly, by asking for advice on a psychology forum like this, it feels a little bit like you might be looking for validation of your own upper hand over them, and maybe even getting a little kick out of it. Hang in there!
hollowsailor48 hollowsailor48 Member
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#17 ·
At the end of the day, arrogance and insecurity are just two sides of the same coin. 😁
Larry Peterson30 Larry Peterson30 Newcomer
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#18 ·
slymaker9 said:Hi everyone!

During a recent business meeting, someone dropped this line on me with a completely straight face: "I hold myself in very high regard, but I don't even think I have the capacity to..."
For some reason, it didn't strike me as confidence. To me, it sounded more like: "Don't go thinking I'm not smart; I'm actually quite brilliant."
It felt like they were trying too hard to convince me of their intelligence, which usually points toward deep-seated insecurity.🤷
What’s your take? Are these the words of an arrogant, confident person, or someone who is fundamentally insecure?
What kind of personality says something like that, and what is their actual goal?

Okay, at first glance, it sounds like a 'realistic' and 'honest' statement. But that word 'even' really bugs me. To me, it suggests that this person doesn't just have a high opinion of themselves (which they admitted), but they’re positioning themselves far above everyone else (which is what they implied). They frame it that way so people won't see them as selfish or arrogant, but rather as being honest and grounded.
In my opinion, we're looking at an intelligent, cunning, and calculating individual dealing with a massive ego. But that's just how I see it.
slymaker9 slymaker9 Active MemberOP
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swiftcobra71 said:Man, it's pretty tough to pin down exactly how your coworker was feeling in that moment because, besides just the words, you'd need a bit more like their body language, eye contact, facial expressions, and all that stuff to really know. No one can give you a perfect read based on just a sentence, but looking at what you wrote, here's my take. It sounds most likely like an insecure outburst from someone who, for reasons only you know, feels lesser than when they're around you. It’s hard to judge much from just a couple of posts, but the way you framed this question makes it feel like you really know/think this colleague is insecure—probably because you've picked up on it in other situations too. Honestly, by asking for advice on a psychology forum like this, it feels a little bit like you might be looking for validation of your own upper hand over them, and maybe even getting a little kick out of it. Hang in there!

Larry Peterson30 said:Okay, at first glance, it sounds like a 'realistic' and 'honest' statement. But that word 'even' really bugs me. To me, it suggests that this person doesn't just have a high opinion of themselves (which they admitted), but they’re positioning themselves far above everyone else (which is what they implied). They frame it that way so people won't see them as selfish or arrogant, but rather as being honest and grounded.
In my opinion, we're looking at an intelligent, cunning, and calculating individual dealing with a massive ego. But that's just how I see it.

Ah, everything clicks now. These two posts helped me piece it all together.
The statement itself is exactly what anonymus described: the words of someone who views themselves as superior to others—someone intelligent and shrewd, but possessing a very inflated ego.
That is essentially who he is, which I have gathered from other situations as well.
However, for some reason, I still perceive him as insecure, which I also know from past experiences. Because of that, I viewed his statement through that lens, which is why my initial impression was so muddled. My primary feeling was that he was using that comment to convince me that I should hold him in high regard and recognize his intelligence, while simultaneously implying that even he can't be perfect at everything.
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#20 ·
I think you’re full of it. When someone is truly full of themselves, they always have an answer for everything. They’ll give you some response to your question, offer you a Starbucks coffee and a snack, throw in a compliment, and then you walk away realizing they didn't actually say a damn thing

An arrogant person will absolutely never say, "I don't know." No chance.

They’ll toss out an answer loaded with corporate jargon you can't even follow, just to prove how brilliant they are. Or, they'll just subtly pivot the conversation elsewhere

I have yet to hear a clueless, insecure person admit, "I don't know." My job requires quick, accurate info, and in my experience, about 80 percent of people just make stuff up. Only true professionals—and I mean the ones who aren't in upper management, because managers practically have to lie to keep their jobs—will actually be honest enough to say, "I don't know"

You’re just looking for us to tell you otherwise. Sorry.

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