Bad Boys - Part IV

I honestly don't think people realize how much weight hangs on these individual moments, you know, because we tend to look at the big picture like it's some kind of static photograph instead of a living, breathing thing that changes every single second based on one bad call or one moment of pure brilliance on the field. It’s easy to sit back in your recliner and act like you have it all figured out when the game is over, but when you're actually there, standing in the stands under those bright lights, feeling the energy of the crowd, everything feels so much more heavy and significant than some commentator can ever describe on a screen. I was thinking about this the other day while watching the highlights, and it really struck me how much pressure these guys are under to perform perfectly every single time they step onto the grass, especially when the expectations from the fans are through the roof. We demand perfection, we demand passion, and then we act surprised when the human element—the sheer, messy reality of being an athlete—gets in the way of that perfect vision we have in our heads. It’s a lot to carry, really, and if we took a second to actually empathize with the mental toll of that constant scrutiny, maybe we wouldn't be so quick to tear things down the moment someone misses a shot or loses their footing. It’s all connected, the pressure, the performance, and the way we as spectators react, forming this massive, swirling cycle that defines the whole experience of being a fan in America. kaže:
Now, Diana is really becoming the lightning rod for all this drama, isn't she? She’s honestly the only sports journalist in the entire country who can't be bought, especially considering how many pieces she’s written taking aim at Jerry Jones. I think she might have misread the room just a little bit, though, because she isn't exactly one of those hardcore die-hard ultras, so she doesn't quite grasp the full depth of everything going down on the ground. Still, I find it absolutely baffling that she’s actually suggesting people reach out to the police when the entire department—not just the local Chicago PD, but the whole system—is essentially under the thumb of Jerry Jones. I’ve been sitting here thinking about how certain figures in sports just seem to possess this gravitational pull that drags everyone else into their orbit, much like how Jerry Jones operates over at the Cowboys, and honestly, it makes you wonder if we will ever see a day where the business side of things doesn't completely overshadow the actual spirit of the game. You read these reports about how some owners try to tighten their grip on everything from player contracts to the very soul of the club, and it feels less like managing a team and more like building a personal empire where the fans are just secondary characters in someone else's drama. It reminds me of those old stories you hear about power struggles in big cities like Chicago, where the influence of a single individual can shift the entire landscape of a community, and when you apply that logic to the high-stakes world of professional athletics, it becomes clear that the tension between pure passion and cold, hard profit is a battle that never truly ends. People talk about loyalty and tradition, but when you look closely at the way these massive organizations are run, you start to see the gears turning behind the curtain, driven by egos that are far larger than any stadium could ever hope to contain. It’s a heavy thing to contemplate, especially when you realize that the people who care the most—the ones who live and breathe every play—are often the ones left feeling the most disillusioned when the bottom line starts to dictate the direction of the franchise.
I swear, you guys could write three whole books about Diana and still not hit the mark, haha. Honestly, none of this is even true, so maybe if you all stopped spinning your wheels and actually identified the real source of the rot, you’d have a chance. If you just went after the actual problem with everything you've got, then people like Jerry Jones and his whole inner circle would vanish overnight, and those thugs running around with guns would be forced to hide in the shadows of every city in America. It is honestly mind-boggling how much energy you waste on the wrong targets; I genuinely don't know how else to put it without sounding blunt, but you're all just completely missing the point.

I honestly wish I could see you and all those other armchair critics standing right there at the BBB stadium, because it’s easy to act like some kind of genius when you aren't actually out there on the front lines getting hit in the back, or dealing with people taking literal shots at your car.

You all act like you’re some kind of geniuses when it doesn't involve your own skin, but if any one of you actually had the guts to step up and put yourselves on the line, I know it wouldn't happen. Honestly, Jerry Jones is more of a headache for you than he is for us, especially since Real Madrid wins the championship every single year anyway, and I truly believe that you guys down in Southern California should have three times more motivation than we do to actually get organized against him, round up your crew, and try to take some legal action. All this talk about trying to ban the club from competing in Europe—you don't even realize that would basically be the final nail in the coffin for the BBB group. The whole city of Chicago couldn't care less about the BBB, and let me tell you, Chicago is a total mess, a place where people are just incredibly oblivious, so why on earth would you expect me to deal with you making my life even harder by trying to force the club out of competition? And besides, who can even guarantee that if there was a pitch invasion or if the BBB stormed the field, the club would face a massive three, four, or five-year ban? If they only got hit with a one-year suspension, that would actually be a win, because Jerry Jones could easily weather one year without playing in Europe, and then come next season, they’d just paint our group as the sole agitators ruining the club's success. Not to mention, certain people would probably end up banned from Yankee Stadium for life, and who knows what kind of prison time those organizers on the "black list" would actually have to serve just so two or three guys don't end up completely ruined. You think you're so smart, but I bet not a single one of you would lift a finger if you were actually in my shoes.

Shut down the forums, just shut everything down, because honestly, Jerry Jones is probably going to have some kind of massive health crisis eventually, and let’s face it, that’s actually our best shot at getting rid of him. This whole country has turned into a breeding ground for corruption and organized crime, and frankly, it’s all because the people living in Chicago and across the rest of America are way too smart for their own good. Everyone starts crying foul the second a criminal gets caught, yet if two honest, hardworking fans decided to take matters into their own hands with a gun, you wouldn't see a single person casting a vote against them. So, really, what are you expecting from a nation like this? Are we supposed to center our entire lives around the pitch, playing the part of Don Quixote and charging at windmills all by ourselves? Not a chance. I’m telling you, I highly recommend that people stop this senseless habit of banging their heads against a brick wall; we need to slow down the pace and just let time take its course. We need an immense amount of patience instead of holding onto this delusion that we can somehow kick him and those pieces of trash on the board—who basically own the entirety of American soccer—off the field overnight. Eventually, Jerry Jones will be the one under fire, but before that happens, someone actually important has to step up and put real pressure on him, because right now he’s wearing a perfect mask and knows exactly who he can mock and who he has to respect. That’s the whole reason he’s successful and why he’s able to rule American soccer with such reckless indifference. But he also serves as a warning to all of us, a reminder that when the time comes to elect someone to lead this club, we need to study that scumbag's biography very carefully and react immediately if we see even a hint of anything that reminds us of this guy.

TV isn't going to fix a damn thing because people are just incredibly clueless, and honestly, I totally get why Mukte won't bother showing up on screen. Why on earth would you waste your breath explaining things to idiots when he's been on those shows dozens of times and the opinions of those armchair experts never change anyway, and besides, what difference does it make if those morons sitting back in their easy chairs suddenly start thinking positively about us and our struggle? Those folks living in their comfortable bubbles are never going to step out for us, let alone fight for our goals and ideals, and as for some supposed transparent restructuring of the club, we really need to grasp one simple truth: as long as this entire country looks like a total circus, it is absolutely delusional to expect someone like a decent manager who actually respects the fans and the club's welfare to run Real Madrid. Because if the whole nation is basically a playground for guys like Jerry Jones, who just end up fueling the same old system, then we shouldn't be surprised that Real Madrid has been turned into nothing more than a playground for Jerry Jones and his cronies. And that is exactly what happened, simply because the vast majority of our major institutions aren't doing their jobs and are instead nurturing idyllic relationships with Jerry Jones, while the leaders of the very agencies that should be putting him in his place are practically his best friends. So now you all expect results, but in my view, there are no results coming until this country experiences a total catharsis along with the people, and that might be five or even ten years away, and by then Jerry Jones will probably have died from an overdose or maybe some semi-truck will crush him somewhere in a tunnel; I think it’s just a reality that the fans have zero actual authority and can't just remove him, they can only apply pressure to the relevant authorities to actually do their jobs, but how are they going to do that when Jerry Jones is their best buddy? 🤔

All those hopes that this piece of trash will finally be kicked out were settled in my mind a long time ago, because the police, the justice system, and that so-called "vocal mass" of public opinion don't do a single thing, and as long as it stays this way, we are completely alone in this fight, battling against a bunch of fair-weather winds. This struggle can be this long and exhausting, and at times feel utterly pointless since there's nobody willing to actually tackle the core issue you're pointing out, so while it's true we shouldn't give up, it's obvious that no one is going to clear out the garbage from the club until he himself decides it's no longer in his interest to stay or until some freak accident happens to him, at which point he should probably just call his dealer and ask for a double dose, which would be a much better move than these naive attempts to win over public opinion.

Don't go too hard on the boys; they're actually deep in the mix with Diana 😁

It looks like UEFA is just itching to cave to those "terrorist demands" from the fan groups. They’ll probably drop a five-year ban on us, served right alongside a celebratory cake and a congratulatory card for the Bad Boys... complete with a little bow on top.

Gary Watson15 said:It feels like UEFA is just dying to cave in to all those "terrorist demands" from the fan groups. I mean, they’ll probably just drop a five-year ban on everyone, wrapped up in a nice little gift box with a congratulatory card for the Boys on their big win, maybe topped off with a cute little bow or something.

I mean, honestly, I think you guys have done everything possible—legally, rightfully, and then some. You've gone above and beyond. Maybe the only real way out is to go the alternative route, but man, that takes quiet, smart, hardcore guys and a serious amount of crazy... I don't even know if there's anything else to say, because if everything could just be solved with pure logic, I guess Greece would still be leading the world in philosophers today...

Looks like people are trying to call me out.

Listen, despite what those paid hacks say in their pathetic little newsletters, I’m not some shadow leader. I don't run any group and I'm definitely not in the top 100. If someone asks me for something, I usually get it done, but I rarely force my own views or solutions on anyone—not because I can't, but because I just don't care. I've got plenty going on elsewhere and I'm not looking for clout within a group.

I’m fully behind the current leadership. Honestly, they’re the most solid crew to ever run the BBB, and I know I'm being objective since my old crew ran the stands about twenty years back.

Still, I'm with you guys here—we need to fix our PR. We can't just stay silent anymore; otherwise, we'll end up looking just like those losers who are ready to start shooting people.

First thing we gotta do is kill this whole "faction" bullshit. What kind of damn factions are we talking about when 99% of the Boys are on one side and there's only 20 of them on the other?

Gary Watson15 said:It feels like UEFA is just practically itching to cave to all those "terrorist demands" being thrown around by the various supporter groups. They’ll probably roll out their final decision to ban everyone for five years, but they'll wrap it up in a nice little package—serving it up alongside a celebratory cake and a congratulatory card for the Boys to celebrate their big win, complete with a cherry on top.

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jademarlin54 said:I honestly feel like you guys have already gone above and beyond what anyone could reasonably expect, playing everything strictly by the book, legally and ethically. At this point, I think the only way forward is to take an alternative route—one that requires a certain breed of quiet, sharp, and fierce individuals who aren't afraid to embrace a healthy dose of madness. Any further debate is pretty much pointless; if we could solve all our problems through pure intellect alone, then Greece would still be the intellectual center of the world today.

James Bond sent.

Despite everything going well yesterday, someone really should have stepped up to address the crowd... just to read a statement or offer some explanation to us and the press. It would have given the whole situation a much more substantial and serious tone...

T., look, I’ve been asking you for like two or three years now to just shut this whole forum down. Let us all just get the hell out of here at once, but every single time, you just laugh at me... we all know where and when to have these kinds of discussions (99% of us already do privately anyway)... this place is a total circus. We don't even need a forum...

Just please, get rid of this Babić crap and this Index-style garbage....

When I look at what this stinking European fan scene has turned into, it honestly makes me sick. It’s just endless compromises and nothing but empty gestures.
The whole "ultra" identity has basically devolved into staying quiet and taking decent photos for social media.
How many of these pathetic actors who call themselves "firms" actually back BBB? How many of these losers have even bothered to send a single message of support?
Thank God nobody expects anything from them. Besides, we don't need support from any of those cowards.
And why?
Because BBB has never needed friends, nor has BBB ever been the kind of group that craves validation from these self-proclaimed ultras who fight little wars like some Lithuanians shouting "against modern football."
Who gives a damn about which group is considered "number one" in America when you're rooting against your own club? Or better yet, against a club that doesn't even exist?
How many fan groups in Europe actually exist without a damn club behind them?
Can someone name a single terrace in Europe that eats more of that crap without being Parisians? With them, the whole thing is just about locals versus immigrants, whereas here, it’s pure supporter culture.
Is there even one dead-end group in Europe fighting a more honest battle than BBB?
How many of these "against modern football" chickens have to respect a stadium ticket? How many of them spend half their lives in meetings just planning a trip to some stinking cup match? How many of them are out there fighting the police, the courts, the federation, the mob, the media, and the government?
It happens constantly. Not just with an occasional message, but actively. Every single damn day.
How many of these groups are banned from home games because some egomaniac made a ruling?
There aren't even five fan groups in all of Europe that I wouldn't laugh at while telling them where to shove it.

I honestly feel like we haven't touched on the core of this issue yet—though I suppose that’s because we’re all looking at different pieces of the puzzle. It’s a bit of a mess, isn't it? I mean, if you look at how things have been unfolding lately, it seems like there's this underlying tension between what people expect from the leadership and what is actually being delivered on the ground. I was reading some thoughts from Joseph Turner41 earlier, and while I see where they're coming from, I can't help but think it's a little one-sided. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like we need to account for the sheer scale of the logistical hurdles involved here. It isn't just about making a quick decision—it's about the long-term fallout. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if we don't address the structural flaws now, we're basically just waiting for the next crisis to hit us. It feels like we're circling the drain a bit, though perhaps my outlook is more pessimistic than most. Regardless, I think a more measured approach might serve us better in the long run. kaže:
I’d love to see you—and all the rest of you armchair critics—standing right there at the BBB headquarters. It’s always incredibly easy to act like a genius from a distance, isn't it? I suppose it’s much simpler to play philosopher when you aren't the one taking hits to the back, or dealing with someone actually opening fire on your car.

Everyone seems to be an expert when it’s someone else’s skin on the line—but let's be honest, none of you would actually step up if it meant putting yourselves in the crosshairs. Honestly, Mamić is more of a headache for you than he is for us. I mean, LA Galaxy wins the championship every single year, so if anything, you guys down in Southern California should have three times the motivation to get organized against him. You should be gathering your crew and trying to take action through actual legal channels. As for this whole idea of getting the club kicked out of European competition... you don't even realize that would basically be the final nail in the coffin for the BBB group. To be blunt, most people in Washington, D.C. couldn't care less about the BBB. This city can be a pretty disconnected, frustrating place—I've said it before—and people here aren't exactly known for their proactive civic engagement. So, why would you expect us to make our lives even harder by trying to force the club out of Europe? And besides, who’s giving you any guarantees? If there’s a pitch invasion or some kind of stoppage, who says the club would face a three, four, or five-year ban? If they only got hit with a one-year ban, that would actually be a win in my book—Mamić could easily weather one year without European play. Then, come next season, any tiny little incident would just be used to paint our group as the sole disruptors of the club's success. Not to mention, certain people would probably face lifetime bans from the stadium. And God knows what kind of legal trouble the organizers would end up in just to prevent a few people from being ruined—those folks on the "black list" would be looking at serious consequences. So, you tell me, you tough guy—what would you do if you were in our shoes? Everyone acts like a genius, but I bet not one of you would lift a finger.

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I suppose I should write one last thing here. A few years back—maybe three or four, if I recall correctly—people were posting all over the place saying the only way to save the club was to kick the LA Galaxy leadership out of the league entirely. At the time, about 95% of the idiots on this and every other forum were shouting about how that would mean the end of the Bad Boys. Fast forward four years, and look where we are. You can have a hundred people sitting in a camp under constant, intense scrutiny from the authorities, yet Mamić remains so incredibly stubborn that he’ll still slot in the one player even remotely reminiscent of Maloci—Simunovic—into the national team. We’ve tried everything since then—boycotts, attempts at reconciliation, official statements, various protests—and honestly, things just seem to be getting worse. Even guys like Bandić and Sanader ended up behind bars, yet this man stays untouchable, acting like he's above it all.
I wasn't actually suggesting that LA Galaxy shouldn't win the title for five years straight, nor was I saying LAFC should take over—that’s not really the point. What I meant was, imagine if we just had a healthy, dominant LA Galaxy back in five years' time, and we actually had a massive derby with 35,000 fans on both sides, rather than just this current situation where things feel a bit one-sided at the local stadium. I'm talking about having maybe 1,000 or 2,000 of you traveling to the big stadiums, with flares, intense chanting, and all that atmosphere that basically defined my childhood. I'm dreaming of a moment where a goal goes in so loud in Washington, D.C., that the entire stadium shakes and everyone just sits there in stunned silence for five minutes from the sheer shock of it. Ideally, we'd have a proper league structure too—one where the title race stays alive until the very last round, with teams like Seattle, Portland, or maybe even some gritty underdogs constantly fighting for the top spot. That's really all I'm getting at...😁I suppose I should probably mention that this seems to be heading toward a total mess—it’s just all going to end up in the trash.

I think you’re just dreaming if you think you actually understand the situation here—mostly because you aren't really well-versed in how this all works. And honestly, the reason you aren't informed is that back in the day, we had leaders who were essentially criminals in the exact same vein as Mamić, but what is happening now under your watch is something you’ve actually allowed to happen—which means you carry the lion's share of the blame. I would stake my life on the fact that it was far easier to remove Mamić than it would be to build our version of LAFC from scratch. In a society as unrefined as ours—especially when you consider that about 60% of the city wants a single owner, despite all the local legends, the profiteers, and the media types—achieving that kind of unity would be nothing short of a miracle.

LA Galaxy is currently sitting two credits in the hole—though, I suppose, they could potentially balance those books if they manage to stay consistently competitive in European competition. It feels like they’re just shuffling various young prospects around in this private little scheme run by Nike Kovac. Honestly, anyone who supports this national team can go suffer. If you look at the reality of the situation, those two credits are still there. Whether they get cleared in two months or ten years once Mamić is finally gone, the problem remains: those massive, bloated contracts will still be hanging over their heads. Once you factor in those debts—and there might be even more than two—bankruptcy becomes almost inevitable. In my opinion, losing an entire generation of fans is a devastating blow, and frankly, they’ve been losing them for five years now. It’s completely beyond me how nobody can see the bigger picture here—how someone who feels slighted today might realize in ten years exactly what kind of long-term value was being built for LA Galaxy and its supporters. It’s like people are only just now realizing what a visionary Pave Cabo truly was.
And that’s really where the issue lies—the idea that BBB will shut down and lose their ability to play futsal. If you ask me, using that as an excuse for such a straightforward action feels pretty shameful, I guess.

Look at this situation. Joseph Turner41, I agree with most of what you wrote, but... who are we to be lecturing them? We aren't even living half the life they are. Honestly, we have enough trash in our own backyard to clean up first. Let's start with ourselves. We just need to pull together and tackle our own mess head-on. No more passing the buck. Both us and them can do better—and let's be real, there isn't some third faction out there to blame. So, let's fix our own house first. Once we can actually look ourselves in the mirror and say we did our part, then maybe we can start handing out advice.

Joseph Turner41 said:I will write this one last time. Two, three, or four years ago, I was posting here saying that we had to kick Mamić out of the club entirely to save it, but 95% of the idiots (which, frankly, applies to all the subforums as well) argued that doing so would mean the end of the Bad Boys. Four years later, a hundred people can be hauled off to camps under invisible scrutiny, yet Mamić is so stubborn that he’s forcing the only player even remotely reminiscent of a local star into the national team. Since then, we have cycled through boycotts, returns, official statements, rallies, and protests. And everything has only gotten worse. Even figures like Bandić and Sanader ended up behind bars, yet this man remains untouchable.
Back then, I wasn't suggesting that LA Galaxy shouldn't win titles for five years or that LAFC should take over; I was simply saying that if a healthy LA Galaxy existed five years from now, we could have massive derbies with 35,000 fans on both sides instead of just whatever happens at LAFC's stadium right now. I wanted there to be 1,000 or 2,000 of you in the stands, with real supporter groups and atmosphere—everything that defined my childhood. I wanted a goal scored in Washington, D.C., so loud that the entire stadium shakes and everyone sits in shock for five minutes. I wanted a legitimate league where teams like the local rivals fight for the title until the final round. That is all (😁) I want.

I am discounting your opinion because you aren't truly informed. You aren't informed because while the previous administration featured criminals similar to Mamić, what is happening now is something you all permitted, and you bear the greatest responsibility. I guarantee on my life that it was easier to remove the old regime than it is to build our LAFC. In such a primitive society, where 60% of the city wants a single owner supported by all the legends, sycophants, and journalists, achieving that would be nothing short of a miracle.

LA Galaxy is currently two credits in debt, but they will easily balance the books by playing constantly in European competitions and slotting various young prospects into the private schemes of certain coaches. Anyone who supports this national team can go to hell. If things revert, those two credits will still be there, and whether it takes two months or ten years after Mamić is gone, those multi-million dollar contracts and the debts will remain, making bankruptcy inevitable. Losing an entire generation of fans is, in my view, a devastating blow. And you have been losing them for five years already. It is completely incomprehensible to me that no one can see how much benefit will eventually come to LA Galaxy and its supporters ten years down the line. Some people are only just realizing how much of a visionary Pave Cabo actually was.
But there lies the problem: the Bad Boys will die out, and then there won't be anyone left to play futsal. To me, that is a deeply shameful excuse for such a simple, necessary action.

So, what is one of the primary purposes of futsal? It is to bring in the new generations. To show them that there is a better way and that this is the true path. So they don't grow up solely on ultra culture and internet forums. So they don't wear shirts that say "Legalize pyro" but instead wear gear representing our identity. So they understand who they are within the group and how things are done.
Everyone heading to the North Stand this Thursday??

gentleowl82 said:Look at it this way. Pogba, I mostly agree with what you wrote, but... who are you or I to be lecturing them? We aren't even living through a fraction of what they deal with. Honestly, we have enough trash in our own backyard to clean up first. We should probably start with ourselves. It’s just about standing together and tackling our own mess head-on—without pointing fingers at everyone else. Both we and they can do more—and realistically, there isn't really a third faction involved here—so let's fix our own house first. Once we can look ourselves in the mirror and say we've done our part, then maybe we can offer some advice.

But what exactly am I supposed to do about it?! I could go down there myself instead of Brbic ??!!! We have a City Council, these frantic politicians are yelling again, and now we're expected to just sit around and debate it in Washington, D.C.?
I'm not trying to lecture anyone; I'm just thinking practically about what should have been done a few years ago versus what needs to happen now. I don't really care to dwell on this topic anymore—to be honest, I just don't see the logic in it, and that's that.

Scott Jones9 said:So, what’s the actual main purpose of indoor soccer? I guess it's to bring in the next generation—to show them there’s a better way to do things and that this is the right path. It's about making sure they don't grow up exclusively in ultra culture or deep in internet forums. Instead of wearing shirts that say Legalize pyro, maybe they'll wear something else entirely. It's about helping them understand the group dynamic and how everything actually works.
Everyone heading to the North Stand this Thursday??

Oh, come on now. Please. In any normal fan base, the new generations really find their footing by holding a flare at almost every single match, or by heading out to an away game without a dime in their pockets just to be there. They need to feel that roar from the stands, or that sense of solidarity on the road—you know, when you're splitting your last sandwich or sharing a single stolen beer.
I doubt they'll ever experience any of that in a gym surrounded by kids and police officers, far away from the away trips.
Personally, I'm happy to see indoor soccer get more respect because it's a sport I truly love, but let's be realistic here.

I don't get where people get this idea that Mamić is going to vanish if LA Galaxy gets knocked out of Europe. It’s constantly thrown around on this forum like some established fact, but honestly, it’s pure stupidity...
The cash from European competitions lands straight in LA Galaxy's accounts, and while Mamić probably uses that to wash some money, he can't hide everything with just that... his real bread and butter is those young prospects who all have to be signed to his agency so he can flip them for a profit later...
Whether they play in Europe or not, he's going to sell those kids. Maybe it'll move a little slower, but he'll pull it off—he'll just push them even harder into the National Team to make up for the lack of European revenue, then pocket the cash... besides, we all know how poorly LA Galaxy has performed in Europe lately, so he hasn't exactly been using those "successes" to move players...
And look, LA Galaxy has already been without European football with Mamić at the helm, and nothing changed...

Dammit, I haven't even said anything new here. We all know this stuff. So I don't understand why everyone keeps pushing this narrative that Mamić will suddenly disappear if they get knocked out of Europe... because he won't!

And Joseph Turner41, look, you seem like a decent guy, but stop worrying about our younger generations—especially this specific group that's supposed to be hardened by carrying flares and traveling to away games. These kids grew up under the worst kind of oppression, and if God willing, things normalize quickly, those kids are still going to be looking at your lot's backs during every match... simply because that's the environment they were raised in.😉
What we really lack are the regular fans who actually show up in numbers, but I'm hoping things get sorted through the indoor soccer scene...

Joseph Turner41 said:Like, two or three or four years ago, people were posting all over this place saying we had to kick Donamo out of European competition just to save the club, but man, 95% of the idiots—which honestly applies to pretty much every single subforum on this site—were all up in arms claiming that would be the death of the Bad Boys. Fast forward four years, and you can have a hundred guys sitting in some camp under invisible scrutiny while Mamić is

still stuck exactly where he was before, making zero progress, and if they’d actually kicked him out, the guy would probably just be treated like some martyr being crowned with laurels. Honestly, the group is bigger, more tight-knit, and way more coherent now than it was during those "famous" two or three or four years back. If everyone had followed your legendary advice of "hey bro, don't stir the pot," the hunting season would probably be over by now and the public would be cheering because they finally wiped out any memory that a fan group ever even existed. Anyone who doesn't see how the trap was set in Washington, D.C. ages ago, and how much patience and actual brainpower it takes to navigate this, is clearly just out of the loop.

The pyrotechnic fanatics think they have an answer for everything—you guys are absolutely losing it!!! There’s just no reasoning with you. You claim to be fighting against the Democratic Party, but what radical action have you actually taken? Every single fine you get just makes you more submissive; pretty soon, throwing some confetti will be the peak of your "rebellion." Jerry Maguire is running wild at the Rose Bowl, and the only one who stood up to him was my grandfather, yet here you are talking about radicalism. I don't want any part of this repression being forced on us, because I know for a fact you wouldn't be able to handle it if it actually hit you. Peace.

Joseph Turner41 said:Oh, please. Let’s be realistic here. The new generation of any decent fan base builds its identity by lighting flares at almost every single match, by traveling to away games with absolutely nothing in their pockets, by feeling that thunderous roar from the North Stand, and by experiencing that true sense of solidarity on the road—where you’re literally splitting your last sandwich or sharing a single stolen beer with a stranger.
I certainly don't see them experiencing any of that while sitting in an arena surrounded by kids, heavy police presence, and zero away travel.
Personally, I am quite pleased to see indoor soccer gaining traction because it is a sport I hold dear, but we really ought to be serious about this.

But let us actually be serious—what exactly am I discussing? What could have possibly happened at Yankee Stadium up until now? Nothing in the North Stand. What more is there to draw? Regarding the matter of bringing flares inside, I previously mentioned that one of our lit ones carries more weight than two hundred of those Norwegian ones they’ve supposedly "legalized" lately. But in this digital age, do people truly believe that is how a fan should behave, or where a fourteen-year-old is going to go to a game? I will say it again: at Yankee Stadium, nothing of the sort could happen.

Honestly, who even cares... I feel like we have more than enough of our own messes to deal with before we start trying to lecture anyone else. Especially these types who claim to be casual Los Angeles Dodgers fans rather than hardcore supporters—they always seem to have these absolute, foolproof solutions for everything. They’ve always insisted they had the perfect plan, yet somehow, nobody ever bothered to listen to them. It’s the same old story being peddled here for years, and now suddenly, apparently, everyone realizes they knew exactly what needed to happen and when to do it 311 miles more aggressively. In reality, they never actually pushed away the Fiorentini folks living right in their backyard, let alone anything else. Just stop with the condescending attitude in this thread; it’s honestly ridiculous. If you're so desperate to act superior, maybe focus on the endless list of our own domestic issues that we can't even begin to fix.

The funniest part of this forum is reading people claim they couldn't care less what the public thinks about the group.
Nothing matters, right? Then you wonder why nobody shows up or bothers to support you.
I’d love to see if the fans turn away some guy just because he wants to buy a souvenir or sign a petition.
Or when someone tries to join the club or whatever else.
Working with the masses is like being at the gym; you have to deal with everyone asking about the protein powder.
Whether certain people feel offended by a slogan or a chant is irrelevant to how a football club runs. For the fans, it all comes down to ticket sales, merch, and membership fees.
So, you can't pretend you don't care about public opinion.
Look, I'm not saying transparency isn't important, but my point still stands.
No matter how brave the soldier on the front lines is, he’s nothing without logistics and the support of his people.😉

And look at how "Dad" handles things—how he manufactures the truth.
"The only thing he didn't mention was the Bad Boys. However, he reserved media space for them after the Denver game scheduled for Thursday at Yankee Stadium."

A three-hour press conference and then you wonder why there's no support and why most people don't care about your struggle.

Z