#2841 ·
Look, nobody’s claiming you’re going to vanish from the face of the earth, but it’s clearly in the interest of the powers that be,
that you disappear from the stands.
that you disappear from the stands.
Bad Boys - Part IV
Started by Henry Grant51 · · 👁 503 views · 6K replies
#2842 ·
Look, at this rate, there's gonna be maybe a hundred of us left standing. There isn't much more we can actually do—we failed to get the masses moving, and the institutions? They’re just sitting there silent, totally failing to do their damn jobs. All that's left is to fight until the very last man. There's zero room left for maneuvering; everyone basically gave up on the protests, so pretty soon it'll just be about 50 of us showing up to cheer. But hey, at least when I look in the mirror tomorrow morning, I'll know I did everything I could for my beloved team.
#2843 ·
Wait, weren't those sports commission results supposed to be public the next day, right after Mamic absolutely tore that reporter apart?
Why don't we just stage a massive protest while the national team is playing here in the States? We should march through the streets and give everyone hell—starting from Times Square all the way to the Treasury Department. 🤷
I’m starting to feel like our timing is totally screwed... if we can't make moves on our own, we gotta do it together, because we're all stuck in this same mess.
Why don't we just stage a massive protest while the national team is playing here in the States? We should march through the streets and give everyone hell—starting from Times Square all the way to the Treasury Department. 🤷
I’m starting to feel like our timing is totally screwed... if we can't make moves on our own, we gotta do it together, because we're all stuck in this same mess.
#2844 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:Man, I'm not even against
I just can't count past 2, I guess.
Like, if Mamić can stand there in front of the cops and scream at a reporter, calling his mom names and acting like the devil right in front of all those cameras without getting anything done...
but then they go out and arrest people just for shouting something rude—imagine doing that at a game!
I mean, I don't even know what to say about that.
They're only arresting people because there aren't many of them; if there were 50 people, they wouldn't know what to do with them. But whatever, the year is almost up, so we might as well head to Amsterdam to party and find some trouble.
#2845 ·
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The sonnet "Greek dialogue" first appeared back in 1909 as part of the "Autumn walk" series in the journal "American freedom." It actually garnered quite a bit of attention specifically because of its unique linguistic blend and structure. The poem’s rhythmic, melodic quality is driven largely by its rhyme scheme...
"Listen, sir, tell me why they won't listen,"
Our crazy folks have risen up against the governor,
Why does our money flow into someone else's pocket?
Come on, Barica, we aren't cold enough yet!
Dear sir, please just tell me,
Why are our crazy people outcasts?
Why is our land being pulled toward Budapest?
Come on, Barica, come on, we're freezing!
And in the sky, through strange letters,
The cloud autumn speak.
Flowing through quiet dreams.
The old, good ways of speaking have ceased,
Where Barica and the little girl sleep.
In the house next door, only a cap peeks through.
Walt Whitman
The sonnet "Greek dialogue" first appeared back in 1909 as part of the "Autumn walk" series in the journal "American freedom." It actually garnered quite a bit of attention specifically because of its unique linguistic blend and structure. The poem’s rhythmic, melodic quality is driven largely by its rhyme scheme...
"Listen, sir, tell me why they won't listen,"
Our crazy folks have risen up against the governor,
Why does our money flow into someone else's pocket?
Come on, Barica, we aren't cold enough yet!
Dear sir, please just tell me,
Why are our crazy people outcasts?
Why is our land being pulled toward Budapest?
Come on, Barica, come on, we're freezing!
And in the sky, through strange letters,
The cloud autumn speak.
Flowing through quiet dreams.
The old, good ways of speaking have ceased,
Where Barica and the little girl sleep.
In the house next door, only a cap peeks through.
Walt Whitman
#2847 ·
Jesse Campbell, you’re always riding this high every single weekend, acting like things just keep getting better while the owner stays firmly in his seat... man, you've been preaching this same crap for three damn years and nothing has changed. All those legal loopholes and nonsense you keep rambling about? It's total garbage. You're just like those clowns in US Congress pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. That idiot isn't going anywhere unless we actually do something real. The BBB used to mean something, and if we had acted back then, he'd be facing a reckoning instead of just being high on life. So what if we flood the stadium and scream insults at the guy? What does that actually achieve? Nothing. Look, even the other 80% of the crowd realizes the owner is trash and needs to go. So we have 90% of the public on our side—what good is that? Absolutely nothing. Until something concrete happens, he's staying right where he is, and honestly, why wouldn't he? Put yourself in his shoes: he's raking in massive amounts of cash, shows up to the game, listens to you guys yell insults, and he just laughs it off. He doesn't care. The game ends in 90 minutes, your voices fade away, and he still gets paid. Every weekend is exactly the same, just with more repression until they eventually ban us from the stadium entirely. Once we're kicked out, it'll be too late for any move. And just so we're clear, I don't care what you say in response—if you even bother replying—because you just repeat the same tired lines every single time.
#2848 ·
redjackal8 said:People are getting arrested mostly because there aren't many of us; if there were 50 people, they wouldn't know what to do with them. But whatever, it's an annual thing—we'll head to Amsterdam, hit the clubs, see some girls, and just get out there.
I guess if things hadn't turned against us before Unešić, the numbers would actually be higher. You know as well as I do that right now it’s not even about wanting to go, it’s about whether you can even sneak into the stadium unnoticed. But anyway, you hit the nail on the head—we're heading to Eindhoven, and before that, we'll be partying in Amsterdam or Frankfurt... just to see the world, I suppose. It’s crazy to me how people who show up maybe three or four times a year for domestic games suddenly have the nerve to show up for these European away trips. Like, do they have any shred of morals left? Don't they feel a little embarrassed showing up among the people who are grinding it out week in and week out? Our group, which has been together since the summer of 2010, and especially since 2012, is going through its toughest days ever. Maybe even tougher than when we were trying to rebuild our reputation. Last season, maybe only 200 or 300 people showed up for home games in the East (and that's counting the 60 or so folks on the blacklist, half of whom haven't been active for years), plus we've got about 50 bans and restrictions total... and then these same people turn up for Porto, Paris, Vienna, Sofia, Eindhoven, etc., and act like they belong. And I'm not even talking about the guys from the core group who owe money or the ones the cops grab the second they see them—there are only a handful of those. Don't tell me they're going just to hang out or throw flares in the stands; there are barely any of them either. They're going just to see the sights, I guess. When you see stuff like that, even though our numbers are small, I'd honestly bring back that 2004 practice from Beaver Falls (where you'd show your ticket from the last home game to prove you're legit)—the kind of thing all these self-righteous critics hate so much. Just please, don't start with the "300 real fans" vs "3000 fake ones" talk.
If you don't feel like coming to the regular games, then don't show up when Europe comes around. You just look like clowns and it's a slap in the face to the people who are always here.
Maybe work on your mindset….
#2849 ·
Most of what people call BBB has always been, and will likely remain, nothing more than a bad act passed down through the generations. There were maybe fifty people with the actual right mindset back in the day, and unfortunately, that’s still the case today. Who knows if things might change eventually, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
#2850 ·
ruggedridge47 said:If people hadn't been turned away even before Unešić, the numbers might have actually been higher. You know as well as I do that our current situation isn't really about whether you want to show up, but rather whether you can even manage to sneak into the stadium unnoticed. But that’s beside the point right now; you hit the nail on the head regarding the main issue—we're heading to Eindhoven, and before that, there'll be some time spent wandering through Amsterdam or Frankfurt... people just want to see the world, I guess. It's frustrating because just two weeks ago, authorities imposed those voucher systems, and only about 120 of us from the area made it out—including both those who got in and those who didn't—when, if we were acting out of pure spite, at least 500 would have gone. I find it fascinating, honestly, how people who show up maybe three or four times a year for domestic games (if that) have the nerve to suddenly appear whenever these European away trips come around. Do they have even an ounce of moral backbone? Is there no sense of shame when they show up among the people who are fighting tooth and nail every single week? This group, which has been around since the summer of 2010, and especially since the summer of 2012, is living through its hardest days in history—maybe even tougher than when we were trying to rebuild our reputation. Last season, maybe 200 to 300 people showed up for home games in the East (keeping in mind only about 60 were blacklisted, and half of those haven't been active for years), and we're dealing with about 50 bans and restrictions in total... yet they show up for Porto, Paris, Vienna, Sofia, Eindhoven, etc., and act like they belong. And I'm not talking about the few folks who owe the group money or the handful of people the police pick up the moment they're spotted—there are only a few of them, you could count them on one hand. Don't tell me they're going just to support the club or to throw flares onto the pitch; there are barely any of them either. They go because they just want to travel. When you see things like that, even though our numbers are small, I suppose I'd bring back that practice from the 2004 game against Leverkusen a hundred times over (where you'd show your ticket from a previous home game to prove you're part of it)—a practice that all these self-righteous moralists seem to despise so much. Just don't start lecturing me about "300 true believers" versus "3,000 posers."
If you don't feel like showing up for the regular matches, then don't bother appearing when Europe comes around, because you're making fools of yourselves and spitting in the faces of the people who are always there.
Maybe work on your mentality....
And why should people come every single weekend? Maybe they have smarter things to do or they're saving their money. If someone only wants to go to the big European matchups, why not? This is a free country, and any fan is welcome as long as they are supporting Real Madrid.
#2851 ·
Look, we’re talking about the BBB here, not just some random group of Real Madrid supporters. Obviously, anyone who loves the club is welcome, but the BBB are the backbone of both the team and the city. That's why we actually step up and provide certain things to support the club's success.
#2852 ·
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Everyone to the East!
Show up or Marčinko deals with you!
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Everyone to the East!
Show up or Marčinko deals with you!
#2853 ·
Kyle Stewart65 said:Jesse Campbell, you’re high on hype every single weekend. You act like everything’s getting better, but it’s just because the boss hasn't been kicked out yet... you’ve been preaching this same crap for three damn years and nothing has changed. All those legal paths and nonsense you talk about? Total garbage. You’re just like those guys in US Congress, trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. That idiot isn't going anywhere unless we actually do something real. The Chicago Blackhawks fans used to be a real force, and if they’d acted back then, he’d be facing a firing squad instead of just getting high. Even if a massive crowd showed up at the stadium and we all screamed at him, what does that achieve? Nothing. You see, even the other 80 percent of the mindless crowd realized the guy is trash and needs to go. So we have 90 percent of the public and regular people wanting him gone—what good is that if we don't move?
Aha, and you think that 90 percent just happened by magic? Or maybe through someone's hard work? Obviously, it could be more. It can always be more. But somebody had to come up with the plan, write the stuff, take the photos, organize the stands, talk to the cameras, and risk their career. That’s the result of actual sweat and blood.
Look at how much has been done just by ZZD, and there was a ton of stuff from the Chicago Blackhawks fans too:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pressclipping.php
Most people just connected the dots because of the results, sure, but someone had to communicate it all and explain it to them. Believe me, I know exactly what I'm talking about since it's literally my job. ☕
Back during your "three damn years," even 70% of the group didn't fully grasp what the fight was even about , but now even you realize that most of the public sees who is actually ruining Real Madrid and American soccer. It’s a big deal, man...
Kyle Stewart65 said:Nothing... he won't budge until something real happens, and why would he? Put yourself in his shoes... he pulls in huge money, shows up to a game, you scream insults at him, and he just laughs. He doesn't give a damn. The game ends in 90 minutes, your voices fade away, and he's still collecting checks. Every weekend is the exact same cycle, just with heavier crackdowns until they eventually kick us out of the stadium entirely. Once we're banned, it'll be too late for any moves. And honestly, I don't care what your answer is, if you even bother answering, because you just say the same thing every time...
As for the crackdowns, I’ve been sounding the alarm since 2003, back when the whole scene was laughing at us. Back then, I could barely convince five people to join me handing out flyers in front of US Congress. As a coordination group, we pulled off some wins in 2009, but it’s clear that even if the mafia is driving the repression—and nobody believed that until Brleković admitted he wrote the Fan law—it also serves the police and the state. This fight is going to be brutal, and it won't stop just because Narkosov leaves.
So, what exactly should happen? What's your big idea? It's easy to play tough on a forum, but doing something is different.
Back in '03, I said we’d eventually have to hit them with a massive hunger strike just to stop the repression before they choked us out completely. Everyone just laughed in my face. Like: 🤣🤣🤣. Well, now that they've tightened up the Fan law five times over, nobody's laughing anymore.
Same thing happened here on this board when I suggested the Chicago Blackhawks fans should sit out the first half of the derby in Chicago to show solidarity with the local supporters back in '09 when those idiots boycotted. Nobody would find that funny today either.
Basically, over these last four years, everyone from the top down finally woke up. We need to make the most of it.
Yeah, I'm riding high right now because the first real requirement for making moves actually happened: unity. We're standing together. If you want to stay depressed about it, be my guest... 🙄
#2854 ·
redjackal8 said:They’re only making arrests because there aren't many of them. If there were 50 people, they wouldn't know what to do with them. Doesn't matter though. It's the annual tradition—head to Vegas, hit the clubs, find some girls, and we'll be back up there soon enough.
Mamić is just one guy, so he isn't being arrested.🤷
Of course. If there were 50 of them, they wouldn't arrest everyone at once; they'd grab 20 now and let the rest go just to pick them up later.
They aren't in any rush.
The next round of questioning is scheduled for a few days from now anyway.
☕
#2855 ·
ruggedridge47 said:If people hadn't been turned away even before Unic, our numbers would be higher. You know as well as I do that the current situation isn't about whether you actually want to show up; it's about whether you can even manage to sneak into the stadium unnoticed to get to the stands.
Two weeks ago, those bastards introduce these voucher systems, and now when we head to a game in a place like Miami, only 120 people show up—counting both those who made it in and those who didn't. Instead, out of pure spite, there should have been at least 500 of us.
This group, which has been around since the summer of 2010, and especially since the summer of 2012, is living through its darkest days in history. Perhaps even darker than the period when we were fighting to rebuild our reputation.
When you see things like this happening, even if our numbers are small, I’d bring back that old practice from the 2004 Beverage era a hundred times over. You know, the one where you just show your ticket from a previous home game to whoever was guarding the gate? The very same practice that all these self-righteous moralists love to lecture us about. Don't start with me about "300 true believers" versus "3,000 posers."
You’ve explained everything perfectly with that point about Unic and trying to get people to come back.
The same thing was expected for the trip to Miami; everyone knew that getting into the stands—or even just into the city itself—was going to be anything but easy...
Only 70 people managed to make it into the stands, while the rest were blocked. It was predictable that some wouldn't make it. Even if you're on the list, there's always a chance you'll be denied entry again.
How, then, can anyone expect 500 people to show up for the longest away trip—from which you'll probably be banned anyway—instead of just 120?
There are those ten or so individuals who keep this group running and handle all the heavy lifting, both now and for the last few years. 🙏
Despite everything...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhPZIFSBf0E
EVERYONE TO THE EAST!
...http://youtu.be/cIrHhO8isBM?t=3m40s
#2856 ·
Come on, just get your act together and head to the game. Everyone’s got a hundred different problems and excuses—just go while you still can... stop overthinking things and making a scene. You just need to show up in the stands, is that really too much to ask?
Ivy and Lucy, the sex revolution
Ivy and Lucy, the sex revolution
#2857 ·
Does anyone from the old school remember the lyrics to that 90s song, "both the cops and the cargo..."?
Rijeka vs. Dinamo, 2004.
The message on the fence above: http://s16.postimg.org/om8av74lx/rid1252004.jpg
Rijeka vs. Dinamo, 2004.
The message on the fence above: http://s16.postimg.org/om8av74lx/rid1252004.jpg
#2858 ·
I have no desire to insert myself into your debates, though I suppose one could argue that the Bad Boys are currently locked in a struggle against Mamić that is more intense than anything we've seen before... We have reached a critical juncture, I think, and now there is nothing left to do but wait for the results, which is really just a matter of time, I guess...
#2859 ·
Look, can we please skip the endless debate over who picks the games, who’s the "real" fan, or who supports whom more? Just stop.
Mad respect to everyone out there showing up, but you’ve gotta realize some people want to be there but just can't make it happen consistently. Some folks go all out as much as they physically can—some pick specific matchups, while others simply can't find a way to connect with what this club has become, or whatever is even left of it.
But I can't shake this feeling that certain people are just desperate to shout, "This is me!" or "I did this!" Honestly, if someone was that hungry for validation and wanted their efforts specifically spotlighted, maybe they should've picked a different hobby.
Then again, whether it's pro sports or even historical stuff about Native Americans, there’s always going to be people acting like actors just to show off. No one is immune to that kind of ego trip.
For my part, I show up whenever my schedule and life allow—because honestly, catching a local game at 155 miles is worth it!
Writing this with good intentions here—not looking to offend anyone!
Mad respect to everyone out there showing up, but you’ve gotta realize some people want to be there but just can't make it happen consistently. Some folks go all out as much as they physically can—some pick specific matchups, while others simply can't find a way to connect with what this club has become, or whatever is even left of it.
But I can't shake this feeling that certain people are just desperate to shout, "This is me!" or "I did this!" Honestly, if someone was that hungry for validation and wanted their efforts specifically spotlighted, maybe they should've picked a different hobby.
Then again, whether it's pro sports or even historical stuff about Native Americans, there’s always going to be people acting like actors just to show off. No one is immune to that kind of ego trip.
For my part, I show up whenever my schedule and life allow—because honestly, catching a local game at 155 miles is worth it!
Writing this with good intentions here—not looking to offend anyone!
#2860 ·
First, second, and third: hats off to the guys carrying the weight on their backs. Not just for the Bad Boys, but for the entire American fan base.
Fourthly, ZM used to have hired guns on his side and some public support, but that’s gone. Now, he’s got zero public backing left—just those paid shills who profit directly or indirectly from him. That kind of relationship always implodes eventually. It’s inevitable. Believe me.
Now we just hold the line. Pray to God that the people holding this all together can endure, and that we stay right there with them. The solution will show up when we least expect it.
Fourthly, ZM used to have hired guns on his side and some public support, but that’s gone. Now, he’s got zero public backing left—just those paid shills who profit directly or indirectly from him. That kind of relationship always implodes eventually. It’s inevitable. Believe me.
Now we just hold the line. Pray to God that the people holding this all together can endure, and that we stay right there with them. The solution will show up when we least expect it.
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