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Dennis Davis97 said:Some of them just follow orders blindly, which is typical for those Republican voters... anyway, they aren't important

Just remind us which party actually won the elections in Chicago and your county...

Charles Chase4 said:Of course they’re ridiculous, much like any story claiming some inherent difference in "divine mentality" based on being an ocean away from 249 miles.

It’s easy to act like a monolith when your opponent isn't sitting on two billion dollars, backed by the police, the courts, an entire city, twelve consecutive league titles, slapping rivals, and five Champions League trophies. Our current project at Hajduk Split was essentially born from a handshake between a few visionaries and Kerum, who basically handed over the club because he thought it was going under and wanted to wash his hands of the whole mess. There aren't any legendary moves we've pulled that haven't also happened in Chicago, but what I wrote above is really the bottom line. I don't mean that in a bad way; I'm just saying there's no point in getting worked up over these things, regardless of which side you're on.

It's not that, he's just shitting himself. We only have to remember how everything tanked after the massive crowds showed up for the Hajduk-Inter Zaprešić match and see what happened next. Vidija saw exactly what was coming.

Ryan Chavez3 said:It isn't just talk; he's actually terrified. We all remember how things went south after that massive turnout at the Hajduk-Inter Zaprešić game. Vidic saw the writing on the wall.

A bullet?

Charles Chase4 said:A bullet?

No, he just saw a crowd that isn't worth the trouble of messing with or trying to fight against.

Ryan Chavez3 said:No, she simply saw a crowd that was far too large to mess with or try to fight against.

But that is precisely what I was getting at.

cosmicridge6 said:You’re talking about cooperating with the police? That’s rich coming from someone who was busy hiring protesters and cutting deals behind the scenes with Antolic... you’re honestly a riot, acting like there’s some big organized group or club involved here.

It’s going to be a veeeeery long road ahead...🙂

Dennis Davis97 said:Of course, that’s why we got rid of those vultures... just a bunch of nobodies who don't even show up to the games. Some of them are just living off their parents, which is pretty typical for that specific wing of the Republican voters... anyway, they're an insignificant group.
And nobody talks like that back in the South either, so your argument doesn't really hold water.

Look, you're rowing without a trailer, so don't act like you're carrying the weight here... especially since we've been out of the running for a long time. Bralee, people definitely imply California when they say that... and please, don't twist my words around. You know better than anyone that isn't what I meant.

Ryan Chavez3 said:No, he saw exactly what kind of mob he was dealing with—the kind you don't mess with or try to push back against if you want to survive.

If that’s the case, then why on earth hasn't Zdravko stepped down yet? He's seen that crowd more times than I can count. 🤷

It’s a choice between some local idiot with a few extra bucks in his pocket running a shop, or the entire weight of the government—legislative, executive, judicial, and police—working in lockstep to systematically dismantle a fan base and ruin hundreds of lives. Then you’ve got this drug-addled psychopath who would sell out his own grandkids just to score another yacht, let alone pay off anyone to tear down a club, a city, and a legacy just to serve his buddies...
It’s honestly refreshing to see how low and twisted people can get when they target someone they hate, even if they aren't coming for you ("snitching," "selling out," "making compromises," "the last stand," etc.). It gets more deranged by the day. Coming here feels like stepping into a twilight zone; reading how certain people think in their living rooms makes it feel like you're in a parallel universe. And they say it all with such smug, careless confidence.
Last night, I slept with Taylor Swift. Just like I did with Thurman back in '95. And they’re Black too. 09.11. - never forget.

Why wouldn't he...? Honestly, who would want to deal with the soul-crushing burden of leaving a hundred hungry mouths to fend for themselves under his shadow? I mean, what is Katie supposed to eat while raising four kids if these endless excuses don't stop? Besides, who is even going to manage all those legal documents without him there to navigate them? And look, if Sam is truly that wealthy, let's not get hung up on a few hundred million dollars... If he wants to go out and sign some big players before the Champions League, he should just do it, because right now, we're headed for a total disaster. At this point, they're busy printing manuals on "proper behavior" and thousands of pages documenting his impact on our culture. As for that twisted, malicious entity, I honestly don't know what keeps him here anymore when he clearly belongs far away with his cronies. I almost wish him luck at Juventus, watching him fill the stadium with enough smoke to blind the police cameras, followed by a flare display unlike anything we've seen since the Grasshoppers days...

Irfan said:http://www.badboys.com/23-09-18h-everyone-in-chicago/

The ticket for tomorrow's west section is $20

Honestly, it’s become nothing more than a predictable cliché in damn Chicago...

Hasn't the ticket pricing at Madison Square Garden suddenly spiked? And I wonder why people aren't heading to the East Coast like they used to...

Charles Chase4 said:It is remarkably simple to maintain a sense of unity when your opponent isn't backed by two billion dollars, a private police force, a handpicked judiciary, the entire municipal government, a streak of twelve consecutive league titles, a habit of slapping rivals, and five Champions League trophies under their belt.

It isn't quite accurate to suggest that the owner has wielded this level of absolute power from the very beginning, especially since he hasn't even delivered the results to justify it yet. To be fair, you all had your own window of opportunity back when they implemented that "fool's league" format, but unfortunately, that was when the whole thing fell apart due to some major blunders...

brisktrucker2 said:It’s not like Mamic had total control from day one, and he certainly hasn't delivered much in the way of results. You guys had your own window of opportunity back when that "amateur league" was running, but you blew it then too...

You also had plenty of time to fix your club's internal structure before you suddenly needed to raise a hundred million dollars just to have a seat at the decision-making table. Some things simply need time to evolve and mature, I suppose.

Charles Chase4 said:You all had plenty of time to establish a solid membership structure before the pressure was on to raise a hundred million dollars to gain actual decision-making power within the club. Some things simply need time to evolve and mature, for heaven's sake.

That is certainly true. However, I feel that by suggesting it is "easy to be homogeneous," you are inadvertently downplaying the immense sacrifices made by those specific individuals who fought against the former leadership of Hajduk Split—and ultimately emerged victorious in that struggle. And let me tell you, it certainly wasn't as effortless as some people here seem to imply.

As for the rest of your points, I think we are largely in agreement.

Just imagine this happening at Madison Square Garden against the East Coast... absolutely wild.

brisktrucker2 said:That’s true enough. But when you claim that being homogeneous is somehow an easy feat, you’re essentially brushing aside the sacrifices made by those who stood their ground against the old guard at Hajduk Split. They fought their own battles to secure a win back then, and let’s be honest—it wasn't nearly as effortless as some people here seem to suggest.

As far as everything else goes, I think we’re pretty much on the same page.

Look, I wasn't trying to diminish anyone's accomplishments. I’ve already given credit where credit is due regarding the massive strides made with Hajduk Split. But honestly, this is exactly the kind of pushback you get when people start playing the "who did more" game—a trend that seems to be spreading through this forum like wildfire lately. Personally, I find it both absurd and frankly a bit pathetic that everyone on both sides was seemingly itching for this kind of petty bickering to break out. Is this really how we want to spend our time?

brisktrucker2 said:True. But I guess when you say "being homogeneous is easy," you're downplaying how much people actually fought against the leadership at Hajduk Split back then—they actually won that fight. And no, it wasn't nearly as easy as some people here are making it out to be.

As for everything else, we're mostly on the same page.

Now, maybe consider how much harder that struggle would have been if Hajduk had been winning trophies the whole time, playing in the Europa League, and making money off transfers.

Raymond Reed10 said:just imagine how much more grueling that battle would have been if Hajduk had actually been stacking trophies, competing in European competitions, and generating serious revenue from player transfers all this time

That is precisely the point I am attempting to elucidate. There is this persistent, almost rhythmic refrain that "Dinamo has nothing but success, which makes things harder for us," but frankly, that premise is quite flawed.
It certainly wouldn't hurt to remind everyone that back then, Hajduk was securing consecutive championships while Dinamo was essentially playing in a minor developmental league. In those days, there were no prestigious European stages to play on, no lucrative transfer deals to facilitate, and certainly no significant financial clout. Please understand, I am not offering a critique; rather, I simply wish to prevent a hundredfold repetition of a falsehood from eventually being accepted as the truth.