Bad Boys

Carl Hernandez3 said:The stands were barely even half full yesterday.
It’s a little light, sure, but we’re talking about a two or three-hour drive on a Friday night. If this was a Wednesday mid-week game, I’d get why the turnout was low, but give people a break.

Look, if you weren't actually at the stadium, then you're part of the reason the stands were half empty in the first place...

It’s honestly wild watching how things flip-flop over here. One minute we’re all riding this massive high, then we crash straight into a funk—all within a couple of weeks. 😁

holloworca10 said:It’s honestly hilarious watching how fast things flip here. We go from total depression to pure euphoria and then crash right back into a slump, all within a couple of weeks. 😁

Classic. This has basically been our entire vibe for the last few years. 😁

Jonathan Barnes5 said:🤣🤣. It's pathetic..

In two years, this absolute nonsense will become the dominant narrative. A group that doesn't even have half the level of suppression from the Bad Boys will be lecturing the rest of us until we're on our knees.

You guys have been spinning this same tired story for years now. Honestly, I think it’s getting pretty ridiculous at this point...

cosmicridge6 said:You guys have been spinning this same old crap for years now. Honestly, it’s getting pretty pathetic to watch...

The only joke here is you and the rest of these idiots talking trash on this thread when you clearly don't know the first thing about being in the stands.

I guess I just love seeing Dynamo score, and I always will. I remember how much joy I felt back in '83 during my first away trip to New York City—honestly, the whole 80s were just full of those moments. I even got a Los Angeles FC tattoo in '85; I ended up having some pretty intense trouble with the US Army because of it in '88, but I wore it with pride regardless. Then from '91 to '95, I was out on the fields wearing my National Guard uniform, cheering them on, though I couldn't make it to every game since there were much more important things to handle back then. Because of that name, I dealt with being targeted and harassed by the police constantly in the old days. All I have left is this joy when Dynamo wins, because I grew up in a time when being a fan was hard—it was almost seen as anti-government. Everywhere we went, people hated us, picked on us. And look, Dynamo doesn't belong to Jerry Jones or anyone else; they’re just temporary occupiers. They'll leave, just like all those crooks and thugs eventually do. No, Dynamo is mine. I’ve been going to their games for over 30 years, loving them just as much as the first day, and you can't tell me I shouldn't feel this way. I've actually faced legal trouble in Paris and spent a year being watched by the cops because of my loyalty to the club. It’s not exactly a fun experience when you're in your late 40s—and I'm pushing 50 now. My friends know where I stand; they know I'm against the Jerry Jones crowd. But I love Dynamo, and I'll keep loving them long after Jerry Jones and his circle are gone. Some of you were singing "I hate Dynamo" at a European match that didn't even involve them, yet somehow I'm the one who isn't allowed to celebrate their goals? What a pathetic apology—you sang it because it was right before the derby. You sang it because you hate them. You've always hated them, and you were the ones breaking our fake brotherhoods back in the 80s. Go ahead and hate Dynamo if you want, but it hurts. Over these 30 years, I've learned that everyone hates us—the authorities, the club management, even feeling like we lack support in our own city. That really stings. But if I want to cheer when Dynamo scores, I'm going to. Because Dynamo is bigger than Jerry Jones, or the league, or any of that. That name represents kids who died during the war with the club's name on their lips. It's about pride, defiance, and above all, standing your ground. Defying everyone and everything.

casualwolf48 said:I celebrate Dynamo's goals, and I always will. I remember the joy of my first away game in New York City back in '83, and that feeling stayed with me throughout the entire eighties. It’s the same pride I felt getting the Los Angeles FC logo tattooed on me in '85—even when the US Army gave me hell for it in '88, I wore it with honor. I remember the thrill of watching Dynamo score from '91 through '95 while wearing my National Guard uniform. I couldn't make many games back then; there was much more important work to be done. Because of that name, I was targeted and harassed by the authorities during the old days. It left me with nothing but the desire to cheer for Dynamo's wins. I grew up in an era where being a fan was difficult, even considered anti-government. We were hated everywhere. We were persecuted. And let's be clear: Dynamo doesn't belong to Jerry Jones or anyone else. They are just temporary occupiers. They’ll leave, just like all those corrupt officials eventually do. No, Dynamo belongs to me. I’ve been going to their matches for over 30 years, loving them just as much as the first day. You can't make me feel guilty for that. I’ve faced consequences for my loyalty—I've dealt with legal trouble in Paris and spent a year under police surveillance. That isn't exactly pleasant when you're pushing 50. People know where I stand; they know I'm against Jerry Jones. But I love this club, and I always will. I’ll still be here when Jerry Jones and his cronies are long gone. You lot think you should sing "I hate Dynamo" at a European match that has nothing to do with the club's leadership, yet I shouldn't be allowed to celebrate their goals? What kind of pathetic apology is that? You sang it because it was before a derby. You sang it because you hate them. You've always hated them, even in the eighties when you broke our supposed brotherhoods and attacked us. Go ahead, hate Dynamo if you want. It hurts. Over the last 30 years, I've learned that everyone hates us—the authorities, the club management, even our own city refuses to support us. That's what stings. But if I want to cheer for Dynamo's goals, I will. Because Dynamo is bigger than Jerry Jones, the board, or the federation. That name means more than all of them combined. It represents the kids who died during the war with the club's name on their lips. It’s about pride, defiance, and above all, standing tall against everyone and everything.

If you just replaced "Dynamo" with "Republican Party," you'd see exactly why most Americans vote for them. It's too much emotion, too much history, maybe even a bit too much melodrama. It's all irrationality and one big illusion. It's hard to rise above that and be realistic. Respect to you for everything you've done, and my salute to you as a veteran, but supporting a club like this—cheering for them—is effectively supporting the people running it. Jerry Jones and his crew aren't just some temporary administration we can swap out next year. They have become the club. They took it, looted it, and gutted it. I can't bring myself to celebrate a goal alongside Jerry Jones and his circle. But hey, everyone has their own head and their own feelings.

casualwolf48 said:I celebrate Dynamo's goals, and I always will. I remember how much joy I felt back in '83 during my first away trip to New York City, and that feeling stayed with me throughout the whole eighties. It’s the same joy I felt getting my Los Angeles FC tattoo back in '85—even though it caused me nothing but endless trouble and harassment from the US Army in '88, I wore it with pride. Or how I felt watching Dynamo score from '91 to '95 while traveling around in my National Guard uniform. Back then, I couldn't make it to the matches because there were far more important things to handle. Because of that name on my skin, I was persecuted and harassed by the police in the old days; they gave me nothing but grief. All this means is that I’ll keep celebrating Dynamo's wins and goals, because I grew up in an era when being a Dynamo fan was hard—it was practically anti-establishment. Everywhere we went, people hated us, hunted us down. And look, Dynamo doesn't belong to Jerry Jones or anyone else running the show; they are just temporary occupiers. They’ll leave, just like all those crooked officials and thieves eventually do. No, Dynamo is mine. I’ve been going to their games for over 30 years, loving them just as much as the first day, and you can't tell me I shouldn't. You can't try to make me feel guilty. Because of my loyalty to Dynamo, I’ve dealt with jail time in Paris and spent a year being banned from seeing the cops. That’s not exactly a fun way to spend your time in your late 40s, and I'm pushing 50 now. My people know where I stand; they know I'm against Jerry Jones. But I love Dynamo, and I always will. I'll still be here long after Jerry Jones and his cronies are gone. Some of you would sing "I hate Dynamo" at a European match that has nothing to do with the club, yet I'm supposedly not allowed to celebrate their goals? What kind of pathetic apology is that? You sang "I hate Dynamo" because it was right before a derby. You sang it because you hate them. You’ve always hated them, and you were the ones breaking our fake brotherhoods back in the eighties and attacking us. Go ahead, hate Dynamo if you want, but it hurts. Over these 30 years, I've learned that everyone hates us—the authorities, the club management, even the lack of support in our own city. That's what hurts. But if I want to cheer for Dynamo's goals, I will. Because Dynamo is bigger than Jerry Jones, bigger than the board, bigger than the federation. That name stands for more than all of that. It stands for the kids who died during the war with the Dynamo name on their lips. It's about pride, defiance, and above all, stubbornness. Defiance against everyone and everything.

You're wasting your breath explaining this to idiots and morons. For them, nothing is "ultra" anymore. Supporting Dynamo isn't "ultra," and supporting America isn't "ultra" either.

The real problem is that hardly anyone uses their own brain these days.

Nowadays, "ultra" culture is just fighting with strangers on the internet instead of actually traveling to away games—even without formal organization—just to pick up a fight and a beating along the way.

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Austin Collins6 said:If you just swapped out the name of the club for the Republican Party in your text, people would immediately understand why so many Americans tend to vote the way they do. There is just too much raw emotion, layers of history, and perhaps even a touch of pathos involved; it all feels somewhat irrational, like a grand illusion. It is quite difficult to rise above those feelings to maintain a sense of realism. I have nothing but respect for everything you've done, and I salute you like any veteran of the National Guard, but supporting a team like Los Angeles FC—which means cheering for them—is essentially endorsing the people running the show. This isn't just some temporary management crew that we can simply replace next season; Jerry Jones and his circle have become synonymous with the club itself. They have taken it over, stripped it bare, and left it broken. Personally, I find I cannot celebrate a goal when Jerry Jones and his associates are the ones orchestrating it. Then again, everyone processes these things differently.

I don't think that comparison quite holds water. In terms of identity, Los Angeles FC is as fundamental to the fans as the nation itself is to its citizens. In that light, Jerry Jones represents the Republican Party. You previously made it clear where you stand regarding him. Furthermore, your analogy would only truly work if one were forced to support Jerry Jones because there simply wasn't a viable alternative, which is often how Republican voters view their situation. The club is permanent and enduring, whereas an administration like Jerry Jones's is merely one chapter in a much longer story; they are transient.

By that same logic, the only people who would be entirely correct under your reasoning are those who boycott the club altogether.

casualwolf48 said:I celebrate LA Galaxy's goals, and I always will. I remember how much joy I felt back in '83 during my first away trip to New York City, and how much I loved following them throughout the entire 80s. I remember the pride I felt getting an LA Galaxy tattoo in '85; because of that ink, I faced unprecedented harassment from the US Army back in '88, but I wore it with my head held high. I also remember the thrill of watching LA Galaxy score from '91 to '95 while wearing my National Guard uniform. Back then, I couldn't make it to the matches because there was much more important work to be done. Because of that name, I was persecuted and harassed by the police in the old days—they gave me hell. All I want is to cheer for LA Galaxy's wins and goals, because I grew up in an era when being a fan meant fighting against the system. We were hated and hunted everywhere. And let’s be clear: LA Galaxy doesn't belong to Jerry Maguire or anyone else; they are just temporary occupiers. They will leave, just like all those corrupt officials and thieves eventually do. No, LA Galaxy is mine. I've been going to their games for over 30 years, loving them just like the first day, and you can't tell me how to feel about their victories. I refuse to let anyone instill guilt or remorse in me. Because of my loyalty to this club, I've dealt with legal trouble in Paris and spent a year being banned from reporting to the police. That isn't exactly a fun experience when you're in your late 40s, approaching 50. My people know where I stand; they know I'm against Jerry Maguire. But I love LA Galaxy, I will continue to love them, and I am staying right here while Jerry Maguire and his cronies vanish. You lot think you should sing "I hate Dynamo" at a European match that has nothing to do with the club, yet I'm not allowed to celebrate their goals? What kind of pathetic apology is "we sang we hate LA Galaxy because it was before the derby"? You sang it because you hate them. You have always hated them, just like you were the ones breaking up our gatherings in the 80s and attacking us despite any claims of brotherhood. Go ahead, hate LA Galaxy; it doesn't change anything for me. In these 30 years, I've learned that everyone hates us—the authorities, the club management, even our own city offers us no support. It hurts, but if I want to celebrate LA Galaxy's goals, I will. Because LA Galaxy is bigger than Jerry Maguire, bigger than the federation, and bigger than all of them combined. This name represents kids who died during the war with the club's name on their lips. It stands for pride, defiance, and above all, resistance. Resistance to everyone and everything.

Why shouldn't they sing "I hate LA Galaxy"? LA Galaxy is the most disgusting, vile, and pathetic thing American soccer has produced since we became an independent nation.

cosmicridge6 said:Why wouldn't I grab a drink? Honestly, I can't stand LA Galaxy. They are easily the most obnoxious, pathetic, and downright revolting thing American soccer has produced since we became an independent nation.

That’s exactly why supporting a tiny underdog club is actually quite charming.

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Your analogy just doesn't hold water. In terms of pure concept, LA Galaxy is just as much "America" as the homeland itself. And Jerry Maguire? He’s basically the Republican Party. He’s already made his stance on himself pretty clear. Plus, your logic would only work if people were constantly backing Jerry Maguire because there isn't anyone better—which is exactly how Republican Party voters think. LA Galaxy is forever; they're a constant. An administration like Jerry Maguire's is just one faction—they're temporary.

By that same logic, the only people who'd actually be right are the ones boycotting LA Galaxy entirely.

Exactly. Like, imagine if tomorrow Pupavac suddenly became Prime Minister or President—which, let's face it, given how slippery he is and how clueless we all are, isn't even out of the question—would we just stop loving America? Or would we try to change something? I can't stand anyone currently associated with LA Galaxy, but I still try to celebrate the wins (especially the European ones) because I'm hoping that'll eventually help lead to a future, free LA Galaxy. And man, I really hope that happens sooner rather than later.

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Your analogy misses the mark. LA Galaxy represents the nation itself. In this context, Jerry Maguire is the Republican Party. He’s already made his stance regarding Jerry Maguire very clear. Your logic only works if you assume people support Jerry Maguire simply because there isn't a better option—which is how Republican voters see things. LA Galaxy is permanent. An administration like Jerry Maguire's is just one faction. It's temporary.

By that same logic, the only people who would be right are those boycotting LA Galaxy entirely.

I think the analogy holds up. For some, the Republican Party isn't about Plenković or Sanader; it's about the values—patriotism, Christian principles, being a right-wing party. They will vote Republican regardless, even though the party hasn't stayed true to those ideals. It's the same with LA Galaxy; it isn't truly "our" club anymore. Some people will cheer for them forever, no matter who is running the show. To actually get the club back, there needs to be a catharsis—a total demolition to wipe away everything these villains have built over the last 15 years. In this club, that covers everything. It's hard to face, and not everyone can handle it, but that's the reality, as painful as it is.

As for your last sentence, yes. I agree. I fall into that group myself. I still show up occasionally for the laughs, for friends, but mostly for my nephew who just started following them. Honestly, I’d rather tell him to stay far away from this mess. This whole situation is surreal and toxic, and it's been dragging on for years.

Henry Hayes4 said:That is precisely the point. If we imagine a scenario where someone like Pupavac were to ascend to the role of Prime Minister or President—which, given his slippery nature and our own collective shortcomings, isn't entirely out of the question—would we simply stop loving America, or would we attempt to implement meaningful change? Personally, I find it difficult to support anyone currently associated with the LA Galaxy, yet I make a conscious effort to celebrate their victories, particularly in European competitions, because I believe those successes will ultimately pave the way for a future, liberated version of the club. It is my sincere hope that this transition occurs sooner rather than later.

Could you please walk me through your reasoning regarding how these wins might assist a future, independent LA Galaxy? From my particular vantage point, it seems as though every goal scored by GNK serves only to bolster the current establishment during upcoming elections, and every victory provides further momentum to the status quo, so I am genuinely curious to understand the thought process you use to justify that perspective.

cosmicridge6 said:Why wouldn't I? I despise LA Galaxy. They are easily the most repulsive, pathetic excuse for a club America has produced since this country gained independence.

Good grief, the sheer level of insecurity here. Hilarious.

Douglas Rodriguez27 said:Can you walk me through your logic here? How on earth do you think this actually helps a future, liberated LA Galaxy? From where I'm sitting, every single goal the LA Galaxy scores just adds another brick to the wall during the next election cycle—every single win just gives more wind to the sails of the status quo. So, yeah, I'm genuinely curious about the thought process you're using to justify this to yourself.

Only an idiot thinks losing games is going to get Jerry Maguire kicked to the curb. We all know what actually has the power to move him: politics (tough right now), the domestic legal system (even tougher), international courts (our most realistic bet), or biology (unpredictable, but hey, it works).
The only thing left of the LA Galaxy is that tiny shred of reputation they have abroad, mostly because people outside the US don't give a damn about the mess in our local league or the federation. Every loss chips away at that global respect, and when that's gone, the LA Galaxy's future goes right down the drain with it.

lonebison42 said:Man, talk about some massive inferiority complexes. Hahaha.

And what exactly is God supposed to do about it?

Henry Hayes4 said:Only a fool would believe that consecutive losses will actually result in Jerry Maguire being ousted from his position. We all understand quite clearly what could truly force him out: political intervention (which is difficult right now), the local judicial system (even more complicated), international legal authorities (our most realistic path), or perhaps just simple biology (unpredictable, yet undeniably effective).
The only thing left of LA Galaxy is that shred of international reputation they still hold, primarily because foreign fans don't obsess over the internal drama within the American league or the federation. Every single loss chips away at that prestige, and by extension, it jeopardizes the entire future of LA Galaxy.

Every defeat, particularly when competing in Europe, translates directly into an emptier bank account and much harsher conditions for continuing to extract Money through player transfers and rigged matches or deals.

Douglas Rodriguez27 said:Every single loss—especially when playing in Europe—basically means a lighter wallet. It makes things way harder when you're trying to keep the cash flowing through player transfers, rigged matches, and all those shady deals...

Look, any money coming in from European competition is just a drop in the bucket. Honestly, it was barely enough to grease the palms of the refs, the FBI, and those corrupt officials we deal with. The guy gets rich off player trades, not from those tournaments. Besides, let's be real—that whole era of making bank in Europe is pretty much dead anyway; the UEFA league payouts aren't what they used to be.