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Roger Carter75 Roger Carter75 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Apr 2014
#4461 ·
Lmao—they’ve got enough speed running through their brains to power a small city, while their guts are just as soft as 90% of the other fans out there. Nine of them are absolute cowards—just weak little guys—leaving only one actual man standing.
placidheron16 placidheron16 Member
48 messages
joined Sep 2011
#4462 ·
holloworca10 said:Now they’re going to have to pay up for the damages to the van... which is honestly my favorite part of this whole scene—just watching people wreck vehicles. Seriously, does anyone in this entire community actually possess even three grams of common sense?

If they ran away, they should pay for what they did—that's just being decent. 🙂
They aren't cut out for this stuff. You guys are basically an asset to Macola at this point!

I'll give you one more bit of praise: you used to be legitimately tough on the streets, but now? You're definitely at your peak on the internet.
vividfalcon31 vividfalcon31 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2021
#4463 ·
placidheron16 said:Let them pay back what they ran off with—that’s just being fair. 🙂
You guys aren't cut out for this stuff. Honestly, you're only relevant because of Macola.

I’ll give you one compliment, though—you used to actually be tough on the streets, but now you’re definitely at your peak on the internet.

Moron. After years of being suppressed, we're still going toe-to-toe with a group that basically runs their own club's Board of Directors these days. Just shut up and show some respect to the "guerrillas" from the Chicago suburbs...
Roger Thomas7 Roger Thomas7 Member
15 messages
joined Feb 2010
#4464 ·
vividfalcon31 said:What an idiot. After years of being constantly suppressed, we’re still out here going toe-to-toe with a group that has basically controlled the Board of Directors for the last few seasons. You guys need to get a grip—give it up and just show some respect to the "guerrillas" over in the Chicago suburbs...

Coming from you, calling someone an idiot is actually a compliment. Best regards from the Board of Directors!
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2013
#4465 ·
vividfalcon31 said:Moron. After years of blatant repression, we’re still playing defense against a group that—quite predictably—has had its hands all over the Board of Directors for the last few seasons. Just take the loss and give a nod to the "guerrilla" crowd out of Chicago...

Honestly, why does this Chicago group bother you people so much?🙂
William Kim William Kim Member
29 messages
joined May 2023
#4466 ·
vividfalcon31 said:What an idiot. Even after years of being totally shut out, we’re still going toe-to-toe with a crew that basically runs their own club's Board of Directors. They should just back off and give some respect to the "guerrilla" squad over in Chicago...

Is this what the Boys are trying to say—that he's an agent?🤣
cosmicbear15 cosmicbear15 Active Member
196 messages
joined Feb 2012
#4467 ·
It is fascinating to watch these "wannabe fans" comment on everything. They have absolutely nothing to do with BBB or Torcida, yet they write as if they are part of the story.
slycyclist19 slycyclist19 Member
13 messages
joined May 2014
#4468 ·
cosmicbear15 said:It is fascinating to me how all these "wannabe fans" who have absolutely nothing to do with the BBB or Torcida comment on everything as if they are actually part of the story.

The only legitimate post on the internet in several years.☕ 👍
Sandra Fowler74 Sandra Fowler74 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jul 2021
#4469 ·
vividotter40 said:How much does the City Council actually bother you guys?🙂

Well, they've already been shut down
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2013
#4470 ·
Brian Alvarez34 said:Well, they're effectively out of commission

:yeeey:
placidheron16 placidheron16 Member
48 messages
joined Sep 2011
#4471 ·
vividfalcon31 said:Moron. After years of constant repression, we’re still going toe-to-toe with a group that has basically controlled the Board of Directors for the last few years. You guys should just step aside and show some respect to the "guerrilla" crowd from the South Side...

You’re reading way too many articles written by political hacks—but hey, if you actually believe we run the club, then explain something to me. What exactly are you trying to achieve with that fan association? Is that the same thing? Or can you provide an actual explanation? Don't go calling other people on your phone to explain it for you; just speak from your own head. Maybe then you'll show some real love for the club.

As far as holding our own goes, we’ve had our wins and you’ve had yours. It’s always entertaining. Honestly, I find it hard to believe you’re acting like some minor scuffle in front of a local deli was a massive victory—whoever was there, they absolutely dominated, so credit where it's due.
And regarding Columbus, this whole attitude isn't working for you. It's not okay. You were given a two-hour window to deal with the guys from Columbus—and honestly, they did a great job, charging in and making their point. Instead of being happy about what happened, instead of learning how to cover our tracks and hide the layout of the streets so we don't face blockades next time, you’re running to the internet to complain. It’s funny—our guys don't realize they looked like cowards at Macola, and apparently, your guys don't realize they were running scared in Columbus either. What kind of excuses are those?

Our guys are right behind you on your path toward Brussels. All this talk about ripped shirts and little Omega branding... why bother? You used to mock us for being an "internet brigade," yet here you are, and frankly, you're starting to fascinate me.
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#4472 ·
* placidheron16

I honestly just show up to Futsal to catch the game, grab a beer, and show my support by holding up my card or membership. I’m really not trying to meddle too much with the Bad Boys or even you guys; you’ve got your own thing going on, and every time it seems like someone is either giving or taking, I just thank God there aren't any serious injuries to report.

I’ll probably end up saying some stupid stuff since I’m not deeply embedded in the scene and have no clue what’s actually happening behind the scenes, even if I can help out with a few numbers here and there. Still, it doesn't really affect me, so whatever.

I truly hope that over the coming years—and hopefully soon because of the European stage since you guys are lagging behind—you start expanding into MMA and everything else that comes with it. It’ll definitely bring in a massive wave of fanatics who are only interested in the brawls rather than the actual club, but that's just how it goes.
In fact, a good chunk of the current crew is more about the fan culture than the club itself; honestly, if it weren't for that, the Bad Boys wouldn't even exist anymore. On the flip side, though, there are so few people left who aren't obsessed with some sport or some kind of club or national team.

With the rise of MMA and everything else, clubs are getting packed (at least from where I’m sitting), and I think we’re going to see a huge influx of people coming from outside the traditional supporter circles. I mean, every trend has its downsides, but at least nobody’s going to end up dying from getting hit in the head with a rock or a telescope.

Besides, it’s much easier to accept a loss when you get physically overpowered directly than when someone raids your city on a random day outside of a matchday, like how you guys did in Columbus.

The equivalent would be if the Bad Boys headed down to Miami to face RNK and decided to swing by and harass the locals in Miami. Now, I know I’m being subjective, but I find it hard to equate that with Macola. Though, that video footage—that was just pure stupidity. I really hope nobody was making fun of that dečko in the video near Macola; it’s like standing on a line where most people run away, and then you’re the idiot left standing there taking the brunt of it.

I’d have to agree with you; I was just looking at the North American fans lately, and it seems like a ton of people are writing about BBB online now, which wasn't really the case before—they’ve basically become the biggest voices on the internet. While I’m glad to see the younger kids getting involved, I honestly thought after everything that happened over the last decade, the city would be a supporter's wasteland. The Bad Boys leadership really needs to clarify that they don't write on behalf of the whole group.

As for you guys, the Torches, it feels like you’re increasingly acting like a criminal organization. I read a lot of SD, and I constantly stumble upon articles about things like a guy having a bomb planted in his car in Mokošica and stuff like that. Look, I don't know the backstory, but you don't need to be a genius to guess who did it if the victim is associated with BBB.
Maybe the guy was trash, maybe he deserved it, or maybe it was the mob, but man, if this is just "fan-inspired," it’s incredibly aggressive for a group whose core members live in Chicago and rely on connections and ties to BBB for their security.

Personally, I hope everyone comes to their senses and puts away the telescopes, bats, and shotguns kept outside their doors. Because when Spartak or CSKA rolls in, regardless of whether you're still the toughest guys on the street—both sides are—there's going to be teeth flying all over the pavement. The rules have changed. It’ll be pretty ironic when the dragon-themed crews or the Viola guys start flying through the air instead.

At the end of the day, the Bad Boys have certain people who actually deserve the mafia treatment, the bats, and the shotguns, and those people aren't just random idiots. Until that gets sorted, there won't be any progress. If it wasn't clear enough to anyone in Brussels, I guess it's crystal clear now. After all, you can't heal until you remove the tumor.

I’d also add one more thing: despite all the repression that nearly wiped the group out for a while and blunted their edge, they didn't even get a shot at the major leagues.

That, along with the weakened Bad Boys, essentially broke the fear factor of Chicago, turning it into a city like, say, London, where you can actually walk around without issues if you’re a little bit smart.

We also have to mention this ABA League situation, which has resulted in a bunch of "badgers" writing online—people who only show up in the city once every ten years during the league. Teams like Cedevita and Cibona play against some Mexican or Mexican club every single week, VK Mladost every other week, and RK Chicago every third (okay, I might be exaggerating a bit). In any case, these are sports where even those "weak" Bad Boys aren't active because they just don't follow them. I’m thinking primarily of the Varvara crew.

I know none of this really concerns me anymore, so I apologize to everyone, but I just had to vent somewhere. I realize this sounds ridiculous, like calling someone a "badger" or a "clown," but this whole thread is a bit of a mess anyway, with only a few active people writing here. 🙂

Honestly, I’m done typing my thoughts out on these PDFs, so I just wanted to tell the fans that I really hope Hajduk finally wakes up from this absolute nightmare we've been living through lately. We need to break free from the stranglehold of the mafia and all those shady players who were practically salivating at the chance to jump on our backs.

As for the BBB, I want to see someone go in there and clip the wings—or honestly, if you ask me, snap the spines—of those Lions, Bells, Shaggy ones, Altpezes, and Tudumics. I’d love to see the entire Board of Directors pack their bags and vanish, and wouldn't it be great if we could finally declare war on the Dinamo crowd? But hey, I'm not exactly an optimist when it comes to this club.

I realize I probably outdid the North Stand in terms of word count, and maybe even quality, so feel free to delete this if it's too much for you.🙂

Take care.
casualgull92 casualgull92 Member
20 messages
joined May 2014
#4473 ·
ironpanther5 said:placidheron16

I usually just head over to the Futsal game to catch the match, grab a beer, and show some support with my membership card. I don't really want to get too deep into things with the Bad Boys or any of you guys—you've got your own thing going on. It feels like someone’s always getting hit or taking a fall, but thank God nobody’s ended up with anything too serious lately.

I might end up rambling about some stupid stuff here, since I’m not really in the loop and have no clue what's actually going down... though I could probably take a shot at guessing a few things. Not that it really matters to me, I guess. Whatever.

I honestly hope that over the next few years—though, I really hope it happens sooner since we're lagging behind for the big tournament in Europe—you guys finally start dealing with the hooligan situation. It comes with its own set of headaches, for sure, but once you crack down on the crowds, you'll probably end up with a bunch of maniacs getting involved just for the sake of fighting rather than actually supporting the club. Or maybe I'm wrong, I guess we'll see.
I mean, honestly, a huge chunk of the crew is only here because of the fan culture rather than the actual club itself. I guess if it wasn't for that die-hard supporter energy, the Boys wouldn't even exist at this point. But then again, looking at it from another angle, there's really so few people out there who aren't interested in some kind of sport or a specific team or whatever. It's just how it is, I suppose.

With MMA getting so huge lately, I feel like clubs are getting packed—or at least that’s how it looks from where I’m sitting. It makes me think we're gonna see a ton of new faces showing up from outside the usual hardcore fan circles. I mean, look, everything has its pros and cons, I guess... but hey, at least nobody’s gonna end up getting taken out by a flying rock or a telescope to the head.

Honestly, it’s just easier to swallow a loss when you get beaten head-to-head on the field. It hits different than when some team just rolls into your city on a random day that isn't even game day... kind of like what happened to you guys in Columbus.

It’s kind of like if the Boys headed down to Miami to face off against RNK and decided to swing by and see the guys from Zadran on the way. Anyway, I'm around. Just my two cents, I guess.I don't know, it’s kind of hard for me to really compare that to what happened with Macola. And honestly, that whole filming thing... it was just pretty stupid. I really hope nobody was out there making fun of that dečko in the video from Macola, you know? Like, you stand your ground while everyone else runs away, and then somehow you're the one who ends up taking the hit. It's just... yeah.

I mean, I kind of agree with you. I was just looking at some of those American fan groups online, and man, there’s just a massive crowd of people posting about the BBB stuff now. It wasn't really like this before; they’re basically the loudest voices on the internet lately. I guess it’s cool to see the younger kids getting involved and stepping up, but honestly, after everything that went down over the last decade, I thought the city would be pretty much dead in terms of fan culture. Maybe the Board of Directors for the Boys needs to step up and clarify things, you know? Like, they should probably make it clear that people shouldn't be posting as if they're officially representing the whole group.

Honestly, looking at you Torce guys, it’s starting to feel like I'm reading about a literal crime syndicate. I spend way too much time scrolling through SD, and I keep seeing these stories pop up—like that one report about a guy getting a pipe bomb planted in his car over in Mokošica and stuff like that. Look, I don't know the backstory or any of the details, obviously, but I guess you don't even have to be a genius to figure out who's behind it when the victim happens to be BBB.
Maybe the guy is just a piece of work, or maybe he actually had it coming, or hey, maybe they're all just mobsters for all I know... but man, if this is really just fueled by fan rivalry, it feels way too aggressive for a group where most of the members live in Chicago and rely on their connections within the BBB for basically everything.

Personally, I’m really hoping everyone just comes to their senses and scales back on all those telescopes, bats, and whatever else is being kept out front. I mean, when a team like Spartak or CSKA rolls into town, it won't matter how tough you guys are on the street—things are going to get messy, fast. The rules have changed. It’ll be pretty ironic when it’s the Bad Boys or the Viola who start throwing hands instead.

I mean, look, the Boys have someone in their ranks who honestly deserves the full mafia treatment—you know, like an ambush or some heavy-duty retribution—and I’m definitely not talking about the usual suspects. Until that gets dealt with, we aren't seeing any real progress. If it wasn't crystal clear to anyone back when they were dealing with the big shots in D.C., I guess it should be obvious by now. It's pretty simple, really... you can't expect a recovery until you finally cut out the tumor.

I guess I’d add one more thing to that... you know, with all that repression they went through? It pretty much almost wiped the group out entirely. It really dulled their edge, too. Honestly, it wasn't even a fluke that they missed out on the championship league—it was just how things played out after all that.

She basically took down the whole intimidating vibe of Chicago, especially since the Bad Boys aren't exactly at their best right now. It’s like how you can walk around London without feeling totally overwhelmed, assuming you actually know where you're going, I guess.

We really need to talk about this whole regional league situation. It’s funny how people on the internet suddenly act like experts and start barking the second the big teams roll into town—even if they only show up once every decade. You’ve got the basketball clubs playing major matchups almost every single week against teams from across the region, and then you have the swimming clubs or the handball teams hitting high-level competition on a regular rotation too. I might be exaggerating the schedule a bit, I guess, but you get my point. It’s mostly just the sports that those "weak" Boys don't follow where you don't see this kind of noise. I'm mainly thinking about the cheerleading squads, personally.

I know none of this really affects me anymore, so sorry if I'm overstepping, but I just had to get this off my chest somewhere. I realize how ridiculous this sounds—kind of like some clownish nonsense—but this thread feels like it’s just for a handful of active people anyway. 🙂

I don't plan on posting here much longer, so I just want to say to the fans for the upcoming holidays: I really hope Hajduk wakes up from this nightmare we've been stuck in lately. We need to break free from the grip of the mafia and all those outside interests who were just waiting for a chance to stab us in the back.

As for the BBB, I honestly wish someone would just clip the wings—or maybe snap the spines, if you ask me—of those Lions, Bells, Shags, Altpes, and Tudumics. I’d love to see the whole Board of Directors pack up and leave, too. I wish we could go to war with the guys from Chicago, but I'm probably not being an optimist about the club's future.

I know I've probably outdone the North stand in terms of word count, and maybe even substance, so feel free to delete this if you have to. 🙂

Take care, everyone.

Man, just shut up already. You literally said yourself you aren't part of this, so nobody actually cares what you think. It's hilarious watching you pick on buff guys and MMA fighters, trying to make excuses for them so they can call themselves fans. You're acting like it's totally fine when guys from various fight clubs show up, but telescopes and sticks are somehow the problem? That's just how you see it, I guess. You're completely lost, just stop writing.
Terry Smith6 Terry Smith6 Member
14 messages
joined Oct 2013
#4474 ·
placidheron16 said:You seem to be reading far too many articles penned by Zdravko Reic, though if you truly believe we are the ones sitting on the club's Board of Directors, then perhaps you could enlighten me... what exactly are you attempting to achieve through that supporter association? Is that our identity, or can you provide some actual clarification? Please, refrain from calling others on their cell phones to explain things to you; speak from your own mind, assuming you possess any genuine devotion to this club...

As for the clashes, we had our victories and you had yours, which makes for an endlessly entertaining spectacle, I suppose, and I find it hard to believe you’ve finally realized that bragging about some little scuffle in front of a local grocery store doesn't make you tough—though, honestly, God knows whoever was there certainly held their own, and credit where credit is due...
And regarding Columbus, this whole situation isn't sitting right with us, it really isn't, despite how you try to frame it. You were given a two-hour window by the guys from Columbus, and frankly, they handled themselves brilliantly, yet instead of being happy about the outcome, or perhaps considering how we might better secure our surroundings to avoid future blockades, you simply rush to the internet to vent. It’s as if our people aren't aware they looked foolish at Macola, just as your lot seems oblivious to the fact that they were running scared in Columbus, regardless of whatever excuses you attempt to manufacture...

Our people are watching your progress toward Brussels, seeing the faded shirts and the little Omega logos and whatnot... but why bother with all that? You used to mock us for being nothing more than an "internet brigade," yet now, quite frankly, you fascinate me...

If you were even remotely active in this entire saga, you wouldn't be spewing such nonsense, let alone looking back at your previous posts... just shut this down, because this whole thing has devolved into a complete circus, much like those old underground scenes...
Henry Hayes4 Henry Hayes4 Active Member
64 messages
joined Apr 2013
#4475 ·
placidheron16 said:You’re reading way too many articles written by Zdravko Reić—honestly, man. But look, if you actually think we’re the ones running the club’s Board of Directors, then walk me through what you guys are trying to pull with the Dinamo supporters' association. Is that the same thing? Or maybe give me an explanation... and don't go calling other people on your phone to explain it for you—just speak from the gut, okay? Maybe you actually have some love for the club in there somewhere.

Alright, let me try to break this down simply for you, if you'll let me. Basically, under our model, the members would have just as much say in running the club as you or I have in running the country. Members are strictly voters—period. We pick from a pool of candidates who step up, choosing whoever we think can best steer the ship for the next 4 years (or whatever the rules set). Each candidate lays out their vision, how they'll fund everything, and the team they're bringing in to make it happen. Then, after 4 years, at the next election, you vote based on whether you're happy or pissed off with how the Board of Directors performed. To me, that's a massive departure from how things work over at Hajduk. We want to be just the voters, whereas you guys act like you're a coalition partner in the management. And personally? I don't think fans should ever be part of the actual management structure—because once you're pulling the levers, you stop being fans.
ironpanther5 ironpanther5 Active Member
235 messages
joined Mar 2019
#4476 ·
casualgull92 said:Oh, just go jump off a bridge already, because you literally admitted you aren't even part of this conversation, so frankly, nobody gives a damn what you think. It’s honestly hilarious watching you try to drag MMA fighters and all those jacked guys, acting like you're building some pathetic little alibi for them just so they can be "fans"—as if it counts as fan behavior when guys from random fight clubs show up while everyone else is just holding telescopes and sticks, because apparently, that's how you see the world. You're completely lost, so just stop typing.

Look, dečko, we don't have to agree on everything, and I'll be the first to admit I might have rambled through a bunch of nonsense, but you are genuinely so dense that I'm honestly surprised you've managed to hold down a job.
Jessica Phillips6 Jessica Phillips6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2015
#4477 ·
Terry Smith6 said:If you actually bothered being even remotely active in this whole mess, you wouldn't be spouting such nonsense—not to mention your previous posts... Tomo, just shut this down. It’s become a complete joke, like those idiots from the ultra groups...

🤣

If you had a few olives to your name, you wouldn't even be here right now.

Over & out.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#4478 ·
Henry Hayes4 said:Look, let me try to break this down simply for you, if you're open to it. Basically, under our model, the members would manage the club about the same way you or I manage the country. Members are just voters. They pick from a pool of candidates who step up, choosing whoever they think will run things best for the next 4 years—or whatever the bylaws dictate. Each candidate lays out their vision, how they’ll fund it, and the team they plan to bring in. After 4 years, when the next election rolls around, you vote based on whether you're happy with the Board of Directors or not. To me, that's a world away from how things work at Hajduk. We want to be voters; you guys act like a coalition partner. Personally, I don't think fans should be part of the club's management structure. Once you step into that role, you stop being a fan.

I don't see any reason why a fan can't be part of the management or any other structure, provided they get in through the proper, legal, and statutory channels just like any other candidate.
Why shouldn't fans, just like any other club members, be able to exercise the very membership rights we've been fighting for this whole time?
Kyle Torres6 Kyle Torres6 Member
49 messages
joined Oct 2014
#4479 ·
Christian Moore41 said:🤣

If you guys had even a little bit of sense, you wouldn't be in this mess.

Over & out.

😵
Now you've gone too far. Just stay "out" then.
The kid actually made a decent point online, but the rest of you.... 🥱
Grow up. Stop acting like children and maybe we can talk about lowering the seat heights....
Henry Hayes4 Henry Hayes4 Active Member
64 messages
joined Apr 2013
#4480 ·
analogheron19 said:I don't see why being a die-hard supporter should disqualify someone from sitting on the board or holding any other position within the organization—provided they got there through the front door, following the rules, and sticking to the official bylaws just like any other candidate. If you earn your spot legally, that's what matters. Period.
I mean, seriously—why can't the fans actually enjoy the membership rights we've been fighting tooth and nail for all this time? It’s like everyone else in the club gets to pull the strings, so why should the supporters be left out in the cold? We’re out here grinding for these rights, yet somehow, we're still being treated like outsiders in our own damn house. It makes zero sense.

Look, I already said this was just my two cents, and honestly, I still feel the exact same way. If you want proof that I’m at least somewhat on the right track, just look at the mess over at Hajduk Split—you've got fans constantly revolting against a board of directors that they basically helped put in place or influence themselves. It’s a total loop. The only place where fans should actually have a seat at the table is through the club's general assembly, but even then, it shouldn't be the deciding factor in how things run. Let's be real: when it comes to their own club, fans aren't exactly known for being objective, level-headed, or willing to make the kind of compromises you need for steady, professional management. It's just not in their DNA. Plus, who the hell is going to speak for every single fan anyway? It's impossible. That’s why I’m sticking to my guns—voting in elections should be the absolute limit of how much influence the fans and members should have.
Look, that’s just my two cents—take it or leave it.

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