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casualrider43 said:@Taylor Williams28/">@@Taylor Williams28
What you’re doing right now is the textbook definition of propaganda, and let’s be honest, you know exactly what you're doing.
Or maybe you don't?
Is this just pure frustration?
Maybe you need some medication?

If you actually knew what the word meant, you could find the definition in any encyclopedia out there.
That's precisely why I asked: How does propaganda actually work? ☕

I’ve brought up the whole issue of physical conditioning before, haven't I? Because honestly, when I look at those photos of the Boys, good grief. They look absolutely scrawny.
At my age, I feel like I could take on all of them by myself. It makes you wonder—do young people even bother hitting the gym these days? Do they go for runs, or maybe hit the pool? Is there even any boxing happening? Does anyone actually play pickup soccer in the neighborhood anymore? Or maybe some street ball?

I won't even use the Delia as an example. You see, the term Delia actually stems from the Turkish word Deli, which refers to Ottoman soldiers. The word itself essentially translates to being reckless or perhaps a bit dim-witted. Most of them were just Slavs from the North America. Actually, let me use Poles instead. A group of twenty or thirty Poles would probably eat those hundred Boys alive.
So, really, who is the fool in this scenario?

electrictrucker16 said:Recognize yourself there?🤣

Leave Torcida out of your mouth, please. Torcida isn't even in the same universe as your group or any other American crowd; unfortunately for you, Torcida is light-years ahead of people like you...

Henry Rogers6 said:The forum sycophants will eventually come to their senses, so I’m holding out hope they might actually use those brain cells of theirs to help lift this group up instead of just spinning fantasies.

Society isn't really to blame here because "society" is a myth; what we actually have is just a collection of individuals constantly competing across every facet of life. Honestly, if people didn't spend so much time blathering away on these forums, maybe we wouldn't have spent all this time chasing half-baked ideas about certain futsal clubs that never stood a chance. If people had just handed out the reality checks that were deserved back in the day, we wouldn't be stuck in this current mess. The one thing I can actually agree with you on is that the fans of Washington, D.C.'s Dinamo have completely lost their minds. Hopefully, things will settle down soon, but if everyone continues to act like they don't give a damn—if they keep hanging around these boards just playing the victim—then we are truly lost.

To be perfectly honest, I don't have anything against forums. They are a legitimate form of communication. If you want to spread the word about an upcoming action, we all know how information tends to drift through the ether. But for building connections or exchanging actual ideas? A forum is perfectly fine.

So, let's reach a consensus then. If it isn't Mamić's fault, and it isn't Washington, D.C.'s fault, and it isn't the forum's fault... then who on earth is it?

BBB. We need to get organized.

cosmicridge6 said:Please, spare me the talk about Torcida; honestly, Torcida isn't even in the same universe as your group or any of those other local cliques—they are light years ahead of you, unfortunately...

Those who fly high inevitably fall hard. It’s all fine and well until you actually hit rock bottom, I suppose. We shall just have to wait and see how you all manage to recover from this. Everyone falls eventually; the only real question is whether you’ll find the strength to stand back up, and more importantly, when that might actually happen.

Taylor Williams28 said:The higher you fly, the harder you fall. That’s fine until you hit rock bottom. We’ll see how you all bounce back from that. Everyone falls eventually. The only real question is whether you’ll get back up, and when.

We’ve fallen before and we’ve climbed back up, and sure, we’ll probably crash again. But this generation of Torcida is going to be etched in gold in the history of the American ultra scene... Just like so many generations of BBB, though unfortunately, never the Armada...

Taylor Williams28 reminds me of that guy Jorge; he isn't even a true fan, yet he spends all his time criticizing, judging, and questioning the actual fans.
So, did you really join this forum just to talk absolute nonsense?

cosmicridge6 said:>>We’ve taken hits before and bounced back. We might stumble again, but this generation of Torcida is going down in the history books of the American ultra scene in gold letters... Just like so many generations of BBB, but unfortunately, never the Armada...

Why even put the Armada in the same sentence as BBB or Torcida? San Francisco is way too small of a city to ever support a group that massive... From what I can tell, about 30% of the whole city roots for Hajduk anyway...
You guys are obsessed with them because they’ve been dominating you on the field lately, and they’re obsessed with you because they're clearly insecure about Hajduk.

Lawrence Mitchell2 said:Why even mention the Armada in the same breath as BBB or Torcida? San Francisco is far too small a city to ever sustain an organized group of that scale... In my experience, about 30% of the people there actually root for Hajduk...
It seems you all are fixated on them because of their recent dominance over you, while they seem driven by a deep-seated complex regarding Hajduk.

Mostar is half the size of San Francisco, yet they have more supporters for Dinamo and Hajduk, which makes the ultras much different in their mindset. I won't even get started on other aspects...
He wasn't comparing the groups themselves, but rather the underlying mentality.

Regarding those neighborhood discussions, I figured I’d share a quick example, since examples are usually best explained with actual examples.
There's a crew in my neck of the woods, and honestly, it isn't exactly easy to just walk over to a local corner store and grab a Budweiser if you aren't from around here.
They made it clear right away that my background didn't matter—whether I was some outsider or whatever else they might have thought—as long as I wasn't from the wrong side of the tracks, I was more than welcome.

Lawrence Mitchell2 said:Why even mention the Armada in the same breath as BBB and Torcida? San Francisco is way too small a city to ever support an ultras group of that scale... From what I've seen, maybe 30% of the entire city actually supports Hajduk...
You guys are obsessed with them because they've dominated you on the field these last few years, and they're obsessed with you because of their deep-seated inferiority complex regarding Hajduk.

Look, San Francisco isn't significantly smaller than Miami... but fine, let's talk about "mentality"... For years, both us Boys and them have been taking turns building this scene—sometimes they lead, sometimes we do, depending on the generation. If it weren't for the Boys back in 2006-2008, there wouldn't be a scene at all; likewise, if Torcida didn't exist today, the scene would basically be dead. So, these little outbursts from the Armada are just laughable. They aren't, and never have been, in any position to lecture Torcida or BBB about what real fandom looks like. It’s like me trying to talk trash to Ronald just because I kick a ball around with my buddies on the weekends...

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Mostar is half the size of San Francisco, yet they have more fans for Dinamo and Hajduk. Their ultras are worlds apart when it comes to mentality... Not even mentioning anything else..
And he wasn't comparing groups, just the mindset.

San Francisco is a rough town... Full of outsiders and transplants from everywhere else...
It’s pretty similar to Washington, D.C., which has totally lost its identity over the last 20 or 25 years. The city basically bent to accommodate the newcomers instead of making them fit in...

November... just another month slipping by in this crazy place... feels like we're already staring down the barrel of the holidays... everything's getting colder, darker... just when you think you've seen it all... anyway... [User Name] says:
The hypocrisy is just unreal... you’ve got these random forum trolls sitting there acting all high and mighty, calling people out. They’re judging the folks who have spent six straight years breaking their backs just so everyone else could actually have a club to call their own tomorrow. It’s pathetic. Out of maybe 250 people, what, ten of them actually showed up at the gates begging for jerseys? Does that even count for anything anymore?... Honestly...

While everyone else in the stands is busy screaming their heads off about how "one Torcida... Dinamo champion," I’m just sitting here watching the whole circus unfold... 🎉

November... just another month slipping by in this crazy country... everything feels like it's moving too fast and staying too still all at once... honestly, who even knows what's coming next anymore? Just one foot in front of the other... I guess... The user says:
I mean, if it wasn't for those boys... those guys who actually opened everyone's eyes by boycotting the system and fighting back, you lot would probably still be sitting there quietly celebrating every single transfer and trophy like mindless sheep. Most of those boys—the ones who have been getting crushed by the establishment for years now—can't even show up to the games anyway. They haven't stepped foot in Miami for ages because that big-shot leader made sure they were banned... just typical.

It’s like people around here have zero clue what this team has been through six years straight... and then they have the nerve to try and drag us down by whining about jersey sales... honestly...

So, I guess you aren't allowed to call out the hypocrisy now, huh? Not after those six years of pure terror... all those nights out before the "title celebrations," all that endless debating over whether it’s even right to celebrate goals, players turning their backs on the team, returning jerseys, and all that nonsense. Now suddenly we're supposed to just dive headfirst into crushing some 4-0 blowout against a bunch of mindless drones just because they're playing Hajduk... and there are 30,000 fanatics in the stands... ridiculous...

It’s already Saturday, and we’ve got Inter coming up... I wonder when we actually get to start laughing at those 500 people who acted like they won the damn lottery after that "epic victory." Honestly, it can't happen fast enough. We’ll probably be mocking them again soon enough once the European disasters start rolling in... and then we'll be back to gloating. And don't even get me started on next month. By then, we'll be turning our backs on the exact same players who had us all losing our minds at a packed Miami stadium during that madness against High-dug... just goes to show how quickly things change... 👋

What would you even say to those hateful idiots... the ones who made us forget our own damn dignity and all those "internal rules" we used to live by? You either are, or you aren't... it's that simple...

cosmicridge6 said:Please don't bring Torcida into this. For you and the rest of your group, Torcida isn't even in the same universe; they're light years ahead of you, unfortunately...

Sure, Torcida fans actually support their own club. What an absolute joke.

Taylor Williams28 said:The term "Boys" in Washington, D.C. has become synonymous with idiots. Are you even aware of that? Does that mean anything to you at all?

It says much more about the kind of society where that word serves as a synonym for an idiot.
If a group is full of crybabies and keyboard warriors like you, I’ll take that as a compliment.

Some pseudo-intellectual trying to waste historical facts on a fan forum. 🤣

Look, we aren't interested in your nonsense. You’ve been watching since the 90s, so you should know exactly who was worthy of being part of the Boys and what kind of crew we used to be. You could easily list twenty different subgroups if you actually knew anything. You're nothing but a clown. 🤣 🐔

Lawrence Mitchell2 said:San Francisco is a mess... It's just crawling with people from all over the place who don't belong there...
It’s pretty much the same story as Washington, D.C., which has completely lost its soul over the last twenty or twenty-five years. The city basically surrendered to the newcomers instead of making them fit in...

See, this is exactly what I’m getting at. This is typical for today's boys. What are you even talking about? Who hasn't "adapted"? So, you're actually suggesting that outsiders are the reason the BBB fell apart? That's a stretch, considering they're barely even on the fringes.

How on earth can outsiders be responsible for the culture in Washington, D.C.? I honestly have no idea what you're trying to get at here. ☕

boldeagle20 said:It actually says quite a lot about the kind of society where that word is just a synonym for an idiot.
If we're talking about a society filled with cowards and "keyboard warriors" like yourself, then I’ll take that as a compliment.

You're acting like some pseudo-intellectual, trying to squander historical facts on a fan forum... 🤣

Look, we aren't interested in your nonsense. You've been following who was worthy of being a part of the Boys since the 90s; you know exactly what this crew was like back in the day, and you could probably list twenty different subgroups if you tried. You're nothing but a clown. 🤣 🐔

Which subgroups have I actually named on this forum?🤦

darkranger16 said:Honestly, this Taylor Williams28 fellow reminds me of that George guy—you know the type. He isn’t even a real fan, yet he spends all his time criticizing, analyzing, assuming, judging, and questioning actual FANS.
So, let me get this straight: you actually went through the trouble of signing up for an American forum just to posture and talk out of your backside?

What a joke.

nort stend 🙏

Next game is just about the flares and the choreo 🙏

Daniel Carter9 said:Yeah, look, Torcida fans support their own club. As for Avant-garde, they can just shove it.

Of course Avant-garde is rooting for the folks from Cleveland. I mean, why even act like you're being smart here? Or better yet, why pretend you don't know exactly who this was aimed at?... When some guy's mom is out there sending over a bunch of mediocre benchwarmers to help out, what else is he supposed to say?... It's all just a load of crap.☕