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brightpilot6 said:One day, if the club finally manages to clean house for good, the Dynamo fandom will be much like how an Arab nation might feel if Israel were suddenly removed from the map.

It’s a strange cycle where the loyalists fighting the establishment find themselves at odds with those who aren't, yet somehow everyone ends up uniting against the hardcore ultras and then, eventually, against any casual supporter at all.

Drawing a parallel to the Levant makes sense, though perhaps because once things move from constructive debate into actual repression, only the most radical factions remain active while everyone else just pays lip service. It also holds water when you look at the timeline and see just how much everything has fallen apart over time.

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Now we have an official press release. Fine. If you don't want to deal with them under any circumstances, great. Just stop pushing this narrative about "friends in the corner." It’s pathetic and it isn't the truth.
The whole point of this group died a long time ago back at the last game at Poljud. If it weren't for the local chapters, there wouldn't even be people here left.
Look, I get it. People are going to be disappointed. But realistically, none of us have actually felt the fallout from all this. For the last few months, it was always going to come down to one option or the other. This is just my take—I’m not trying to lecture anyone or play defense for the decisions made.

And those local chapters are part of the group. They’re exactly the ones who should be stepping up when things get messy and everyone knows who’s been banned.

That's a different issue entirely: why can't we gather 300 people in NYC who aren't banned but refuse to show up at Poljud? Anyway, North, Makrismir... just the way we know it.😁

Rock bottom.

steeltrucker said:Absolute rock bottom.

I honestly don't understand why nobody thought to ask our friends in Split what their take on this was. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

Jesse Doyle3 said:I truly cannot comprehend why there wasn't an attempt to consult our friends in Split regarding their perspective on this matter, as the current approach lacks any logical foundation whatsoever.

It is perfectly obvious that one should have consulted the compromise group instead; their strategy involves them waving their little flags while we are expected to simply fade into nothingness.

Matthew Martinez64 said:Of course we had to ask about some compromise group—it's their usual playbook. They get to play the hero while we just fade into the background...

Look, man—don't play dumb. Just swallow your pride, admit when things have gone sideways, and know when to cut your losses. If you see them coming a second time, walk away. It’s better that way...😉

I honestly don't get what you people are whining about... nobody went to Makrismir just to see Lista. Now that Lista is gone, what’s stopping us from heading back? Can someone actually explain the logic here if they aren't just being a complete jerk?

driftingotter47 said:I don't get what you people are whining about. Nobody went to the stadium just to support the ultras. Now that those groups are gone, why wouldn't we go back? Can someone explain this without being an idiot?

And since when did those groups disappear?

driftingotter47 said:I don't get why you guys are acting so high and mighty. Nobody went to the stadium just to support a specific group. Now that those guys are gone, what's stopping us from going back? Can someone explain this without being an idiot?

Hold on, what happened to all that talk about "this isn't our Dynamo anymore" and how we can't identify with this version of the club? What actually changed? Zoki bailed, the Big Boss stepped back but still pulls the strings... Is it really irrelevant that his people are still running the show while the players on the pitch are just ATMs? Where's the actual fan base sitting in the stands?

Kate Ward50 said:Look, man, stop being stubborn. Don't try to play it cool or act like you're above it—just swallow your pride for once. Just say, "Yeah, I messed up," take the hit, and learn from it. If you see this coming a second time, you need to know when to cut your losses and walk away immediately. It’s really not that complicated. Everything is going to be fine, just handle it right.😉

It’s really not worth getting into a physical altercation over this. Those guys from the local neighborhood crew were just asking for a favor, honestly. Please, let's not resort to fighting over something like this.

Jesse Doyle3 said:I honestly don't get why nobody thought to just ask our buddies down in Florida what they think about this... it makes zero sense at all.

Back in Chicago, we were already hearing rumors over a month ago that you guys were looking for a cool 500,000 bucks just to get fans back into the stands...

I'm sure you'll probably just dump a bunch of emojis on this and call me an idiot...

But hey, whatever the truth is, it’ll come out in the wash soon enough...

We have never, at any point in our history, entertained the idea of settling for compromises or half-baked solutions, and I suppose we won't start now either.

Forgive me, but I simply had to share this... this particular section of the press release is just too much.😁

Congrats. Despite all the crackdowns, they’re heading back to the stands. The premier crew in the Western world 🙏

Lawrence Mitchell2 said:Wait a second, what happened to all that nonsense about "this isn't our Real Madrid anymore" or "we can't identify with this club"? What changed overnight? Joe ran away, the big boss stepped into the shadows but still pulls all the strings... Does it not matter that his people are still running the show, while the players on the field are just walking ATMs? Where is the fan club in the stands now?

Exactly, we can't identify with them. Is there anything written anywhere saying we’re supposed to throw a parade for every single goal they score? Or does anyone mention us fighting back like those days when it was just a handful of us left in the east end? If it hadn't been for the lists, nobody would have even bothered showing up to Madison Square Garden, so please, get a grip! You guys are acting like absolute chickens—you've got nothing but pea brains, stubbornly repeating the same tired script despite probably being given a hundred different explanations already. 🤦

dustymoose14 said:People all over New York were already whispering a month ago about how you guys were asking for half a million bucks just to show your faces in the stands again....

I’m sure you’ll just dump a bunch of emojis on this and call me an idiot...

But whatever the reality is, it won't stay hidden for long. It'll all come out in the wash eventually...

Whether it's 500k or 5 million, we could probably just buy Tommy's shares ourselves at that point.

William Kim said:Congratulations. Despite the crackdown, they’re heading back to the stands. They remain the premier firm in Europe. 🙏

Let’s be honest: Europe's premier hooligan crew spent the entire match up in the stands.

driftingotter47 said:Look, we aren't on the same page. Does any part of this say we’re supposed to throw a parade every time we score? Or that we’re suddenly going back to fighting tooth and nail like those days when it was just a handful of us left out in the sticks? If it wasn't for the fan groups, nobody would even be showing up to Madison Square Garden anymore, so get over it. Honestly, you guys are acting like chickens—got a single pea instead of a brain, just repeating the same nonsense over and over despite being told a hundred different ways why it doesn't make sense. 🤦

God bless, catch you later. 😁

I don't really have the energy to dive into anything else, but 500,000 dollars just to get back into the stands?
🙏

Why on earth would anyone pay 500,000 of anything just to return to the stadium for the sake of the club, or Saint, or Mamić, or whoever else they're thinking of? Is it just to make the place look fuller? Is it because Machado and Taravel are desperate for support? Does Hajduk Saint just crave hearing the chants from the north end? What are we even talking about... people have been buzzing about this all over town 🤣

driftingotter47 said:Exactly. We can't relate. Does anyone see a mandate here to throw a parade for every single goal? Or an order to fight like we did back when we were just a handful of die-hards out in the suburbs? If it weren't for the fan newsletters, nobody would even bother showing up to Madison Square Garden anymore. Get it through your heads. You’re acting like mindless sheep, clutching a single grain of corn while ignoring a hundred explanations. 🤦

You still haven't answered me. Why were the blacklists scrapped?

Austin Collins6 said:You still haven't given me a straight answer—why the hell did they scrap the blacklists all of a sudden?

Because we dropped half a million dollars on it, that's why.