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Participants gentletrucker32ironsurfer8Gary Johnson7Bradley Evans31lonebadger6stormylynx4Anthony White2Alexander ThompsonAngela Wrightvividsailor7
gentletrucker32 gentletrucker32 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Dec 2007
#1 ·
Hey everyone,
I was wondering if anyone else here deals with a bee allergy??
Unfortunately, I'm allergic, and back in September this summer, a bee stung me and I ended up in the ER. My head swelled up, I passed out, the whole works...
Basically, I need to go through desensitization therapy, but I have to buy the medication myself, and man, it is pricey. Every three months I have to shell out about $330 just for one box, which is a massive hit since I'm still a student. So, I wanted to see if there's anyone else dealing with bee allergies who could tell me where they source their meds??
It’s not available here in the States, but I heard it's in Germany for about $220... but even then, how am I supposed to get it? They aren't allowed to ship it through the mail.
My doctor told me I need to get my hands on this stuff ASAP before the warm weather hits so I can actually start treatment. If I get stung again, things could get ugly—at least that's what they say. So please, if you know anything or have some experience with this, reach out or reply here. Thanks! 🙂
ironsurfer8 ironsurfer8 Active Member
76 messages
joined Dec 2007
#2 ·
I assume you’re looking for some kind of desensitization serum, likely recommended by an immunologist or an allergist,
if you need to source a medication from abroad, there are local pharmacies that coordinate directly with providers across the European Union (like those in Germany or Italy, for instance).
Whenever I needed something that wasn't stocked locally—or something that was simply cheaper overseas—I would just go to a pharmacy in downtown Chicago. As long as you have a prescription or a formal diagnosis specifying exactly what you need, they can order it for you, and you can usually pick it up within a few days.
gentletrucker32 gentletrucker32 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Dec 2007
#3 ·
I know you can find it around here, but it’ll set you back like $300... meanwhile, if you look over in Germany, it’s basically $200. To me, that's a massive price gap, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows someone who orders from abroad or has a way to source it cheaper? If so, I’d love to get in touch. Either way, thanks!🙂 😉
Gary Johnson7 Gary Johnson7 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2008
#4 ·
Hm... Here we go again. People get obsessed with a diagnosis and just start spiraling...
It’s about the overall state of your body; that's where allergies actually come from.
If you want a fix for all those allergies, here it is. Cleanse the liver.
The more treatments you run, the weaker the allergy becomes, and eventually, it fades away.
Go find this book: Hulda Clark - The cure for all diseases
And try to value that knowledge.
Bradley Evans31 Bradley Evans31 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2013
#5 ·
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...cer/clark.html
Whenever something Looks too good to be true, I go looking for a second opinion. And wow... 🙄
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
165 messages
joined Oct 2018
#6 ·
Honestly, there really should be a dedicated sub-forum for pseudoscience, just so people here can actually help one another with health advice—even the alternative kind when there's actual merit to it—instead of dealing with this nonsense...
yeah, just go detox your liver or something.
next time a bee stings you, don't worry about dying; you'll probably just win the Powerball and meet the love of your life instead...

ps, if we're talking about total nonsense, Hulda Clark is easily the worst of the bunch:

The cure for all cancers contains "case histories" of 138 cancer patients, of whom 103 were "cured" and 35 who "did not carry out instructions or could not be followed."

The majority of the people described in the 103 case reports didn't actually have cancer. For those who did, most had already undergone standard medical treatment or caught it in its earliest stages. In those instances, Clark declared them cured without ever checking back in once they left her clinic—meaning she had absolutely no way of knowing how they actually fared down the road...In certain instances, she even labeled patients as cured despite noting that they passed away only a few weeks after her treatment.
Gary Johnson7 Gary Johnson7 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2008
#7 ·
What a joke...
People deserve to know the truth. That’s why this forum exists in the first place.
If you think you're such an expert, why don't you start a thread on how to cure pure stupidity?😂😂😂😂

Of all the things I've lost, my mind I miss the most..
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
165 messages
joined Oct 2018
#8 ·
No thanks, I'm good.
But if you’re asking for yourself, I’d suggest looking into liver cleansing, which is what the renowned Hulda Clark recommends... though some might say it's just a recipe for acting like a lunatic.

P.S. People have a right to know, obviously, so here are the links with the actual facts regarding who Hulda Clark is. A liar, a ruthless manipulator, or just plain crazy, she is an individual who, within the USA , is legally barred by a court injunction from making the following claims:

Use of the Super-Zapper deluxe is effective to kill bacteria, viruses and parasites in the human body;
Use of the Super-Zapper deluxe is effective against chronic infections, cancer and AIDS;
The Super-Zapper deluxe and the complete herbal parasite program are effective to cure all forms of cancer in humans;
Dr. Clark's new 21-day program for advanced cancers is effective to cure all forms of cancer in humans;
Dr. Clark's new 21-day program for advanced cancers has cured numerous people with advanced cases of cancer;
the Syncrometer device is more accurate than the best testing methods at diagnosing all forms of disease;
the Syncrometer device can detect the presence of any substance at specific points in the human body;
The Super-Zapper deluxe, used together with the Complete Herbal Parasite program, is effective to cure AIDS;
The Super-Zapper deluxe, used together with the complete Herbal Parasite program and avoidance of pollutants, is effective to cure diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer's, endometriosis, asthma, and many other diseases;

A conspiracy?
Is the World Government trying to silence your little sect because they actually have a cure for everything?

P.S. And please, don't go confusing pure imagination with common sense and being properly informed by multiple sources...
I mean, if you want to...
And apparently, the way certain patterns align in northeastern England shows how the world will end in exactly 1,111 days, leaving only the followers of Hulda Clark alive...
stormylynx4 stormylynx4 Member
49 messages
joined Mar 2006
#9 ·
Don't roast me for being naive here, but if someone isn't working directly with bees or in a setting where they're constantly at risk of getting stung, why bother with immunotherapy? A bee sting is usually just a random accident; they aren't out there hunting people down to sting them. Is this treatment meant for those facing anaphylactic shock, regardless of how rare or accidental the initial sting might be?
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
165 messages
joined Oct 2018
#10 ·
Why would anyone come after you? It’s not like you’re a doctor who needs to be an expert on this stuff 😉

When someone deals with particularly severe allergic reactions, they undergo desensitization therapy, which is essentially the actual "cure" for the allergy
It’s pricey, takes forever, and all that... so it isn't used for your run-of-the-mill allergies, especially since there's a huge risk it won't even work for anything other than insect stings

Specifically, desensitization for a bee sting lasts about three to five years and works incredibly well—we're talking basically 100% success in kids and around 90% for adults
Anthony White2 Anthony White2 Newcomer
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joined May 2012
#11 ·
When I was a kid, bee stings were nothing—just a little bump and I was fine. But then, maybe two or three years back, everything changed. I broke out in this massive rash and had to rush straight to the ER just to get an injection and some pills. Since then? I’ve basically been lugging those meds around in my bag everywhere I go... a total nuisance. Fast forward to recently: I got stung again. This time, I didn't take the pill right away; instead, I tried playing doctor with various herbal remedies on the site of the sting. And guess what? No allergic reaction. Not a single symptom. But then, a few days later, I realized the stinger is still stuck in there. :/ Is that even possible? Can a stinger actually stay lodged in your skin like that? Has anyone else here dealt with this kind of mess?
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#12 ·
lonebadger6 said:I mean, why would anyone call you out? It’s not like you’re a doctor or anything—you don't need to know all that technical stuff.😉

When you're dealing with really intense allergic reactions, they actually do this thing called desensitization, which is basically the actual "cure" for the allergy.
It's pricey, takes forever, and all that... so people don't bother with it for just any minor allergy. Plus, it’s incredibly effective specifically for insect stings, but there's a pretty big risk it won't work for other types of allergies.

For specific bee sting desensitization, we're talking a 3-5 year commitment, and it works wonders—like, practically 100% for kids and maybe around 90% for adults.

I honestly had no idea it was that successful... I used to be into beekeeping for years, and I could handle plenty of stings without any issues, until about 4 or 5 years ago when the reactions just started getting worse and worse... I didn't pass out or anything, but the last random little sting I got on my finger made my whole face swell up... So, I finally gave up the bees and I don't really dwell on it much anymore... I did check in with my doctor, though, and he told me the therapy is only done at a specialized clinic in Washington, D.C., once a week, which is just... a massive hassle for me. Hmm... I guess I'm just not sure what to do.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#13 ·
Alexander Thompson said:I had no idea it was actually that effective... I spent years working with bees, and I used to handle stings left and right without a second thought, until about four or five years ago when the reactions started getting progressively worse... It wasn't like I was passing out or anything, but the last time I got a random sting on my finger, my entire face swelled up... So, I ditched the hives and haven't really given it much more thought... I checked in with my doctor, and he told me the immunotherapy has to be done exclusively at a specialized clinic in Washington, D.C., once a week, which is just too much of a logistical nightmare for me... Honestly, I don't know what to make of it all.

It’s a choice: you either commit to the therapy or you spend the rest of your life carrying an EpiPen and a dose of adrenaline everywhere you go.
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#14 ·
Anthony White2 said:When I was a kid, bee stings didn't bother me at all. But then, maybe two or three years back, I developed this sudden allergy. I ended up in the ER getting an injection and some pills—medication I’ve had to carry everywhere since then. Well, a bee stung me again recently, and I didn't take my pill. Instead, I tried applying various herbal remedies to the sting site, thinking it would help, but nothing happened. A few days later, I realized it feels like the nerve itself is still irritated :/ Is that even possible? Has anyone else dealt with something like this?

Look, those herbal remedies aren't going to do squat here. You need to stop experimenting and go see your doctor for a real exam immediately.

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