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Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Following up on some of the discussions we've had in other threads, I’m opening this dedicated space where you can all share thoughts, discuss charitable work, or highlight various non-profit organizations.

It is a simple reality—there are those in need of our assistance, and then there are those willing to step up and provide it—so the entire purpose here is to bridge that gap.

In short: please feel free to post about anyone needing help, current fundraising drives, stories of where you've donated, or even why you choose not to participate—let's have an honest conversation about it.

Anything related to humanitarian efforts is welcome and encouraged, though I must insist—let us maintain a level of decency and refrain from making jokes at the expense of these causes.

To get us started:

NEW INITIATIVE — a foundation focused on supporting families in need across the United States www.pomozimo.com

HELPING IS ALWAYS IN — a campaign raising funds to send deaf basketball players to the World Championships, representing the United States national team.

If you are able to give, please do... and if you aren't in a position to donate, perhaps just "like" their pages on Facebook—it helps increase visibility for these people.

My thanks in advance to all the kind souls out there...
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#2 ·
Paul Gomez90 said:I don't even know... I'm just sitting here waiting for them to transfer the funds. Although, from what I can see, people don't really give a damn about humanitarian work anyway... so, honestly, it probably won't even matter where the money ends up in the end.😢

First off—when things actually hit the fan, people's main priority is just looking out for number one. It’s survival mode, plain and simple. Second—let's be real—if you bring this up in the wrong corner of the internet, nobody is going to give a damn. It's just the wrong venue for this kind of talk.
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#3 ·
steelskipper5 said:First off—when things go south and a crisis hits—people’s primary instinct is survival, plain and simple. Second, if you bring up a topic in the wrong corner of the internet, don't expect anyone to care much about it.

Well, then we have to find the right venue... if you’ve got a suggestion, by all means, speak up—though I suspect more people frequent this forum than they do some random subreddit...

Personally, during a crisis, my main way of coping is actually helping others—it keeps me grounded, keeps me feeling useful... and it doesn't always have to involve opening your wallet... sometimes it's just actions, or even just words...

Take me, for example. I might not have the cash to throw around, but I can click "like" on those two pages mentioned above, which pushes them into my friends' feeds—and maybe someone with actual resources sees it and steps up... in that scenario, I'm merely a conduit for the aid... one single click to trigger a humanitarian effort... though, of course, nothing is ever quite that easy...
Charles Davis88 Charles Davis88 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#4 ·
Paul Gomez90 said:well, we're looking for the right spot... if you have a suggestion, speak up—though I feel like more people show up here than at those random local meetups...

When things get rough, helping others is what keeps me sane—it makes me feel better... and it doesn't always mean opening your wallet... sometimes it's just about actions, or even just kind words...

For instance, if I'm broke, I can still hit "like" on two specific pages so my friends see them in their feeds. Maybe someone who actually has the cash will see it and step up... I'm basically just acting as a middleman for the help...one click and you've technically done something charitable... though it's not exactly breaking a sweat......

This part rubbed me the wrong way.
I'm sure you meant well, but surely you realize that mindless clicking just to boost some numbers—numbers that don't represent actual dollars—doesn't actually help anyone. All you're really doing is soothing your own conscience. It's basically like saying, "I don't have money, and I don't have time to volunteer for a nonprofit, so I'll just 'like' their page. Easy! Now I've done my good deed!" Well, I'm not so sure that's going to feed or clothe anyone in need. That’s a different story when it comes to specialized sites like www.thehungersite.com, the so-called click-to-donate style.
Why wait for someone else to take action? Start with yourself and set an example. Don't be a "performative" humanitarian.

Check out the threads over on the Parenting sub-forum (yeah, steelskipper5, I'm giving you a shoutout for RiD)—there's one called "Let's Gear Up a Kid's Room Together," started by a user named Satori.

So, where am I supposed to take this thread now? 🤔
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#5 ·
Chloe Hughes15 said:This really rubbed me the wrong way.
I am certain you meant well—truly—but surely you realize that mindless clicking just inflates some arbitrary metric (one that doesn't actually translate to cold, hard cash) does absolutely nothing for people in need. All you’re achieving there is a little bit of self-absolution. It’s essentially saying, "Well, I don't have the money, and I certainly don't have the time to volunteer for an NGO, so I'll just 'like' a page. Easy! And look at me, doing my part!" Well, I highly doubt a digital thumbs-up is going to put food on a hungry child's plate. That is a completely different matter when dealing with specialized sites like www.thehungersite.com, those so-called click-to-donate
platforms. Why sit around waiting for someone else to take the initiative? You start with yourself and set an example for others. Don't be a performative humanitarian.

Take a look at the threads over on the Parenting forum (yes, >, I am shamelessly promoting Parenting), specifically one titled "Let's Outfit a Child's Room Together," which was started by a user named Satori.

Where should I even move this thread now? 🤔

As I have already explained—though it feels redundant to repeat myself—if I am unable to help directly, but I know a circle of people who might be, then at least I can pass the word along... and I simply see nothing wrong with that.
In other words, if I don't share the information, I haven't done anything; but with a single click, I have passed it on and perhaps done some good. One person, one click—in my mind, the ROI is worth the effort of a single click... isn't it?

And why wait for someone else to act? To lead by example? What is this, then, if not leading by example and spreading news that I want as many people to hear as possible... and I hope at least someone will step up and help (and since you're being quite pedantic about my contributions 😉 I have supported both of these initiatives through donations and other means)... and not just these two specific cases...

I have no desire—nor any need—to boast about it; I simply want to help, and in my estimation, disseminating information is a legitimate form of assistance... ☕

And yes, I help for selfish reasons, because I feel indescribably good when I am able to assist someone...
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#6 ·
Chloe Hughes15 said:So, where am I supposed to take this thread now? 🤔

The only thing popping into my head right now is... honestly, who knows. 🤷
Charles Davis88 Charles Davis88 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#7 ·
Paul Gomez90 said:I’ve already explained this, but here we go again... if I can't do something myself, but I know people who might be able to, at least I can let them know... and I don't see anything wrong with that.
Basically, if I don't pass information along, I haven't done anything—but with one single click, I've shared it and maybe actually done some good. It's just one person helping another; in my mind, it's worth the cost of one click... isn't it?

Spreading info isn't inherently bad, but you have to question how effective it actually is when you're using Facebook—where pleas for help easily get drowned out by a sea of "Which Hollywood star do you look like?" quizzes and random nonsense.
What I'm getting at is that this kind of approach often starts looking dangerously close to spam
(think chain emails or those petitions asking for money for sick kids).

Why wait for someone else to take action? Why shouldn't I start with myself? That's exactly what this is—taking initiative and spreading word about something I want more people to hear about... and I hope at least one person steps up to help (and since you're being so nitpicky 😉 I've supported both of these causes in multiple ways, both financially and otherwise)... and not just these two...

I was referring to your specific comment
For example, I might not have the cash, but I hit the "like" button on these two pages, which lets my friends see it, and maybe someone who *can* help will see it too... I'm just the middleman for the aid... humanitarian action via a single click... couldn't be easier...

I don't know you personally; I'm strictly judging based on what you write here. If you actually do something tangible beyond just clicking buttons, then fine.

And I help for selfish reasons, because helping someone makes me feel indescribably good...

I get that. Most altruists are just massive egoists at heart. 😉
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#8 ·
Chloe Hughes15 said:Spreading information isn't inherently bad—not by a long shot—but you have to question the actual efficacy when the platform in question is Facebook. Once that plea for help gets lost in a digital sea of "Which Hollywood star do you look like?" quizzes and endless fluff, it becomes useless.
I’m trying to point out that this kind of approach often veers dangerously close to being a form of spam
—think along the lines of those viral chain emails or those questionable online petitions begging for aid for sick children.

I was merely reacting to your specific wording

Look, I don't know you personally; my conclusions are drawn strictly from what you post here. If you actually engage in tangible work beyond just clicking buttons on a screen, then more power to you.

I get it. Often, the most dedicated altruists turn out to be the biggest egoists. 😉

The important thing is that we're on the same page. I agree with everything you've laid out...

And regarding the spam issue—the real problem is that so much is requested, yet far too often, the help never actually reaches its intended destination.

That is precisely why I only follow campaigns where I can verify exactly where the money is going... I occasionally reach out to people directly, bypassing the official campaign, just to ensure my assistance lands where it's truly needed—rather than helping someone pay off their credit card debt.

People are all sorts of creatures; nowadays, some even exploit pleas for help for children just to line their own pockets with a few extra dollars.😠
Charles Davis88 Charles Davis88 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#9 ·
This forum might be a better spot than Facebook, but honestly, the way you phrased that post just doesn't sound motivating—it’s more like "I can't do it, so maybe someone else will"...
I mentioned Satori because she's a woman who took things on with her bare hands—so to speak—and inspired dozens of people in the process.
Maybe put a little more thought into your marketing approach... 🙂
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#10 ·
Chloe Hughes15 said:The forum might be a slightly better venue than Facebook, but honestly—the way you framed your post—it doesn't exactly scream "motivation" ("I can't do it, maybe someone else will step up").
I brought up Patagonia as an example because their female leadership really stepped up and inspired dozens of people.
Maybe put a little more thought into the marketing side of your approach... 🙂

Well, here I am on the forum, in addition to being on Facebook... 😉

If I phrased it poorly, it was intentional—mostly so I wouldn't have to explicitly state that *I* am actively doing something. Because, truth be told, I can do it, and I am doing it... and I suspect there are plenty of others out there like me who are ready to lend a hand.

Thanks for mentioning Patagonia; I’ll certainly reach out to them, even though I’ve come across that commendable initiative before... but there’s no harm in contacting them for further guidance and advice.

In any case... thank you. 👍

And if I may conclude: I am putting in the effort, whether anyone deems my efforts sufficient or not... and I am calling on all of you to join in. Not necessarily join *me*—per se—but join those who truly need it. I don't need anything in return; just some heart. 😁
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
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joined Feb 2010
#11 ·
Chloe Hughes15 said:Look, this forum might be a better place to hang out than Facebook, but honestly? The way you phrased your post just doesn't sound very motivating—it’s more like, "I can't do it, so I guess someone else will have to."
I mentioned Patagonia as an example because their female leadership really stepped up and inspired dozens of people.
Maybe try putting a little more thought into your marketing approach... 🙂

… which is totally doable if you actually stick to a theme.
For instance, maybe posting something about supporting deaf basketball players would fit perfectly in the sport section.
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#12 ·
steelskipper5 said:… which might actually work—if one bothers to define the scope a bit more strictly.
For instance, maybe something regarding support for deaf basketball players could be posted over in the sport section.

👍 That’s an excellent idea... though it would force me to fragment my topics... even if it is a brilliant suggestion and I suspect I will end up doing it anyway......
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
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#13 ·
Paul Gomez90 said:👍 actually sounds like a killer idea... though I might end up splitting the thread—which is fine, I guess—but yeah, it's a great thought and I'll probably just go for it......

And hey, don't just give it a title like this one—try to come up with something actually informative.
wanderinggardener57 wanderinggardener57 Newcomer
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#14 ·
Hey everyone, even though there aren't many of you here 🙂

Speaking from experience, I’ve spent quite a bit of my time volunteering for various non-profits.
I also manage two different groups on Facebook, and both have had incredibly successful outcomes—we hit our fundraising goals and the surgeries went perfectly fine. 🙂 🙂

That said, I really can't get behind the idea that just hitting a "like" button is enough. I mean, surely we can all at least $3.25 chip in a little. Think about it: gathering 1,000 people into one group isn't exactly a Herculean feat, and if every single one of them contributes $3.25, well... you do the math.

And please, don't try telling me, "Oh, there's a recession, I can't afford it." If you're online, you're paying for it. We're all feeling the squeeze!
It stands to reason that anyone with an internet connection is shelling out at least $17 every month, so if you can afford $17... then you can definitely find a way to cover $3.25.

Honestly, nothing gets under my skin more than seeing someone post about how they're too embarrassed to donate $3.25 or whatever. Look, if you truly feel it's a waste, then go ahead—just round up five friends, have everyone pitch in $3.25, and get it done.

There are so many ways to help, so please, contribute however and however much you possibly can! 👍
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#15 ·
wanderinggardener57 said:Hello everyone—though there aren't many of you here at the moment. 🙂

Personally, I volunteer; I’ve spent quite a bit of my time working with various non-profit organizations.
Furthermore, I manage two groups on Facebook, and both have reached successful conclusions—funds were raised, and the medical procedures went exceptionally well. 🙂 🙂

However, I cannot bring myself to agree with those comments suggesting that merely clicking "like" is sufficient—because every single one of us can, at the very least, $3.25 contribute. For instance, gathering 1,000 people into one group is no small feat—and if everyone contributes just a little $3.25, well... you do the math.

And don't try telling me—"it's a recession, I don't have anything to spare." If you have money, you have money; we all have something.
It stands to reason that anyone with an internet connection is paying at least $17 per month—so, if you have $17... then you also have $3.25.

Nothing irritates me more than reading someone write, "I'm too embarrassed to donate $3.25," or some other such nonsense. If you find it foolish or whatever—then go ahead and gather five friends, let them each give $3.25, and make the payment together.

There are plenty of opportunities out there, so please, help however and however much you can!👍

👍 even though some truly cannot afford to set aside even $3.25. I would also add that people are becoming increasingly jaded regarding charity work—they've developed a certain aversion to giving away money, even if it's just a single dollar. The key is transparency—meaning, they need to see exactly what was done with their money; I believe that is the most vital element.

As for the whole "liking" thing... I am standing by my original point... though perhaps I should attempt to clarify it better...

Imagine you are selling a car... I might not have the funds to buy it from you, but I certainly won't tell anyone else that you're selling it... in the end, you won't sell it because nobody will ever know.

Now, imagine you are selling a car, I don't have the cash to buy it, but I tell all my friends that you are selling it... surely someone will turn up to buy it, because they will continue to spread the word to their own friends.

I think it is sheer madness to disregard the power of information and its dissemination... because even marketing professionals argue that word of mouth is the most potent marketing tool available.
wanderinggardener57 wanderinggardener57 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Paul Gomez90 said:👍 even though some people truly can't manage to even $3.25 contribute. I’d also argue that people are just plain exhausted by charity requests lately; there’s this growing aversion to giving money away, even if it’s just a single dollar. I think the absolute dealbreaker is transparency—people need to see exactly how their money was utilized. That, in my opinion, is the most critical factor.

As for the part where I say "I like..." well, I’m sticking to my guns here... though perhaps I should try to clarify my point a bit better...

Imagine you're selling a car. I don't have the cash to buy it myself, so I won't go around telling anyone else that you're selling it. In the end, you won't sell the car because nobody will ever know it's on the market.

Now, imagine you're selling that same car. I still can't afford it, but I tell all my friends that you're looking to sell. Suddenly, someone is bound to pick it up, simply because those friends will keep spreading the word to their own circles.

I honestly think it's a mistake to underestimate the sheer power of information and its circulation. Even the top marketing experts will tell you that word-of-mouth is arguably the most potent marketing tool out there.

That is absolutely true; you have to spread the word. Posting a link on your Facebook wall, inviting people to join a group, and things like that. But that alone isn't enough—that’s the whole issue!

And I'll say it again: if you have internet access, you have $3.25 which you could use to send funds to, say, a child who is ill.😉
Kimberly Murphy84 Kimberly Murphy84 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2003
#17 ·
wanderinggardener57 said:That’s true—we need to get the word out... posting links to our profiles, inviting people to join the group, all that. But that just isn't enough, and that's precisely the crux of the matter!

And I'll say it again: if you have an internet connection, you have access to $3.25 which can be sent to a child who might be, say, ill 😉

It’s true that it's insufficient, but it's still something compared to nothing... that’s really all I wanted to say. People today just don't want to feel like they're being milked for cash for God knows what reason—which is actually the core issue nowadays... there seem to be more scammers than there are people truly in need.

But if I go ahead and pay $3.25, what if my Wi-Fi gets cut off next month? Then I won't even be able to spread the word to those who are still online... everything is so incredibly relative...

Yesterday, I received another one of those pleas for help in my mailbox. It even included a cell number. I called, asked a few questions, and donated a certain amount. If they were playing me, well, their conscience can deal with it; mine is perfectly clear.😉
wiredscout11 wiredscout11 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2010
#18 ·
At the end of the day, the method doesn't matter nearly as much as the actual impact. For instance, I’ve been working hard lately to pull together some support for two young boys who tragically lost their mother—their father killed her during an incident at a park in Springfield, and they're currently staying with their grandparents out in the countryside. Since the grandparents aren't working, they're facing some real challenges. If anyone is interested in
helping out with things like clothes, shoes, groceries, or other essentials, please just send me a private message. I'll be more than happy to provide the address and contact information for where the boys are staying.
I want to thank everyone who is willing to step up; kindness always finds its way back to you.

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