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rapidstag74 rapidstag74 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Tuesday, Sept 28 at 10:00 PM!

This is one of those movies that shifts your entire perspective on life. You realize that any problem can be solved with an endless supply of ammunition and an unshakeable desire to see your enemies bleed.

Arnold Schwarzenegger playing John Matrix. The only guy capable of taking down Rambo during a lunch break.

The screenwriter behind this masterpiece is Jeph Loeb, one of my favorite comic book writers, and COMMANDO is essentially a comic book movie through and through.

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They just don't make them like this anymore.
nimblemarlin17 nimblemarlin17 Regular
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#2 ·
We were having this debate about who actually comes out on top. Is it Rambo or Schwarzenegger from Commando (or maybe Schwarzenegger from Predator)? Personally, I think John Matrix would take him down easy before the movie even hits the halfway mark, and by the second half, he’d probably have finished off the Predator too.

Matrix is driven by emotion; he’s fighting to save his daughter. Rambo wouldn't get that at all. 😁
Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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#3 ·
This is one of his absolute favorites. Definitely recording this one.

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I agree, they just don't make them like this anymore.
Anthony Bailey Anthony Bailey Regular
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joined May 2003
#4 ·
Megan Ruiz13 said:I agree. They just don't make them like that anymore.

Honestly, they’re better off not filming at all. If they did, they wouldn't be nearly as original.

Those few movies starring the Governor? They were basically the soundtrack to my childhood.
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Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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#5 ·
redwalker6 said:Maybe it's better they don't film them, otherwise they wouldn't be so original.

That’s not what I meant. Most modern action movies feel pretty soft compared to the stuff we got in the 80s.🙂

I want to see a movie where Arnie snaps someone's neck or spine in one move and then just moves on. Nowadays, after an action "hero" kills someone, there's this ten-minute monologue about how they did it, all while trying to stay politically correct. I won't even go there.
That's probably what bugs me the most.
rapidstag74 rapidstag74 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
N/A said:Honestly, maybe they shouldn't bother filming them. If they did, they wouldn't be considered so original.

Dude, back in the 80s, half the movies followed that exact formula. Some guy shows up and just levels an entire city block.
I’d say at least 50% of the movies from my era fall into that trash category.

In all honesty, the only decent comic from that era was the third Indiana Jones.
nimblemarlin17 nimblemarlin17 Regular
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#7 ·
In my personal tier of movies right up there with Commando (you know, those brilliantly terrible action flicks with the ultra-cool leads), the only other contender is Escape from LA starring Kurt Russell. (Look, if you think Escape from NY is better, don't get all worked up about it—they're basically the same movie). As for Die Hard, it’s way too commercial to even be in this conversation.
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#8 ·
I nearly died laughing, though I was merely curious enough to rise from the grave just to see if anyone could possibly post something even more moronic. This is one of those rare bottom-tier films that actually makes watching the other 90% of boring garbage feel worth the effort.😬
electricpanther12 electricpanther12 Newcomer
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#9 ·
We’re holding your daughter hostage—so you’d better play ball with us. Right?
Wrong !!
BOOM!!!😁
Megan Ruiz13 Megan Ruiz13 Active Member
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#10 ·
The way he lined up those bodies.
What I actually love about the movie is how John Matrix handles his kills—cold-blooded, always dropping a joke right before or after someone bites it.
Sean Lee7 Sean Lee7 Member
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#11 ·
Blow off some steam!!!
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#12 ·
Just watched... Commando is absolute perfection!!
There’s really only one guy who could take out 200 people in a single sitting without anyone being brave enough to even pull a trigger on him.

Let’s be real... Rambo still takes the win here. I mean, the guy takes on an entire armored brigade with nothing but his bare hands!
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#13 ·
nimblemarlin17 said:The Matrix is driven by emotion; he's fighting to save his daughter. Rambo would never get that. 😁

But you've got Rambo all wrong. The Matrix guy is basically a huge softie. (I mean, have you seen how much he hates Freddie Mercury? It’s pretty obvious they used to be close.)
But Rambo? On the other hand, he's just a straight-up killing machine... he isn't guided by feelings, just pure instinct!! Rambo doesn't need a motive to take someone out... he kills just for the hell of it!
Terry Rodriguez41 Terry Rodriguez41 Active Member
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#14 ·
Sean Lee7 said:Blow off some steam!!!

Hahahaha 😁 😁

And honestly, that whole "and I let him go" bit is just too much. 😁

I mean, that’s what makes it a real movie, right? You've got Schwarzenegger just taking out all the bad guys, while these pathetic villains can't even aim straight, plus you get those classic lines delivered in his signature accent 😁 , I mean, come on...

I'm thinking The Matrix would probably just tear Rambo apart... 😁
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#15 ·

Introduction.

Close-up on sweaty, pumped-up muscles. Close-up on a motorcycle. Close-up on some oak logs tossed over a shoulder. Close-up on an incredibly intense soundtrack... well, relatively speaking, considering it was played entirely on a single synthesizer. Finally, a close-up of the face. AHA! There he is, our hero. What kind of absolute beast is this guy?

But... what exactly am I looking at here? Someone just blindsided him from behind. And then... it’s a close-up of a little girl. A close-up of ice cream. A close-up of someone feeding a child. A close-up of fishing. Even a close-up of a tender orchestral soundtrack. It turns out our monster is actually a devoted, good father.

If a movie starts out like this, I’m practically obligated to enjoy it. Usually, you only see this kind of stuff in Republican Party campaign ads.

What exactly is going on?

This scene wraps up that tedious little character development segment. Now we just have to slog through the plot summary before the actual carnage begins, which is delivered via the usual Basil Exposition monologue. Honestly, that ninety seconds was so mind-numbing I ended up skipping ahead. By the time I hit play again, those American paramilitary insurgents—led by a certain Macho Man from the Village People—had already snatched Arnie's daughter. It’s pretty obvious the guy's a flamboyant deviant, considering he's decked out in black leather, a metal mesh shirt, and a pornographic mustache. I mean, how much more camp can one person be? Of course, in this cinematic universe, being that flamboyant apparently makes you pure evil. I suppose that's just the way things work during the decade of the Republican Party.

After a brief car chase that ends with an absolute explosion of the vehicle, the Macho Man threatens Arnie's daughter, demanding he head over to the States to take someone out. Honestly, why the Macho Man doesn't just kill the kid once Arnie rounds that first corner is completely beyond me. Still, he makes plenty of other questionable choices throughout the film, which I will be more than happy to point out.

Arnie certainly wouldn't dream of ever setting foot in a place like that. On the plane, he dispatches the guy tailing him—which was quite a mess, by the way—and makes sure to stage the body so it looks like he’s just sleeping to avoid any unnecessary panic. He even tells the flight attendant, "Don't bother, my friend. He's... dead tired!" Ha ha, Arnie! You truly have a killer sense of humor. After that, Arnie slips through the plane's cargo hold and leaps from 300 meters up without a parachute. Luckily, someone must have spat on a field near the airport, because Arnie lands there completely unscathed.

An Italian guy enters the scene (ZAO!), trying his luck with a gorgeous Black flight attendant. Simply by being a woman and Black, she’s just a total idiot. HAW HAW!! She spends the whole time whining and proving how incompetent she is. It's such delicious satire and absolutely hilarious. Then Arnie jumps into her car and tells her to follow the Italian. He rips out the passenger seat just so he can hide on the floorboards, hoping the Italian won't notice him tailing them. The car happens to be a loud, bright red Chevrolet Corvette, yet Arnie doesn't even bother staying hidden on the floor for the rest of the chase. Honestly, I’d charge him triple the value of that seat just for the sheer lack of professionalism.

An Italian guy heads into this sketchy, smoke-filled Mexican cantina tucked right in the middle of a family shopping mall. Out of sheer boredom, Arnie takes out a few security guards and rips the intercom off the wall before resuming his pursuit of the Italian. The tailing ends abruptly when he tosses a ragdoll that looks suspiciously like our Italian friend into a canyon. What follows is a detective subplot where a flight attendant, Arnie, Shaggy, and Scooby-Doo try to uncover the location of a secret military base belonging to those US paramilitary guerrillas. Turns out, it's located in LA. No, it wasn't in the family mall. Though, honestly, it would have made sense if it were right there next to that shady cantina.

Once they uncover the location of the second secret military base, they head straight to a local arms dealer stocked with—predictably—a massive supply of bazookas, missiles, landmines, and the like. Given all those American paramilitary guerrillas running around LA, business must be booming, so they're clearly making sure everyone stays well-supplied.

The police fall for Arnie's charms, but then a flight attendant goes full action hero and takes out a police truck with a rocket launcher in a massive explosion. Just when they think they're safe boarding a seaplane at the harbor, they get hunted down by insurgents in a military jeep armed with a heavy machine gun. Arnie handles them easily, but the jeep doesn't even explode. What a letdown.

Then they arrive on the island. WEEEEEEEEE! A total massacre! Arnie carefully applies camouflage paint, seemingly intending to save his daughter through a masterful combination of tactical cunning and stealth, but since he doesn't actually do any of that, the paint serves about the same purpose as pulling the passenger seatbelt in a Chevrolet Corvette. Arnie starts tearing through the local paramilitary guerrillas by throwing knives at them, but they don't just EXPLODIE. What a disapo— wait, no. Actually, everything is fine.

What follows is a mountain of corpses, frantic weapon swapping in his inventory, and massive EXPLOSIONS. Arnie gets hit by a single bullet and runs out of ammo, forcing him to hide in a garden shed. Despite being heavily wounded, he manages to slaughter the next three hundred thousand American paramilitary guerrillas by hurling seedlings and various junk like shurikens, then decapitating them with a garden gnome, after which they all EXPLODE.

The final showdown takes place in an underground boiler room: the Macho Man, armed with a gun and holding Arnie's daughter, versus Arnie, who is left with nothing but a broken garden gnome (having smashed it in the last EXPLOSION). Now I see why the Macho Man didn't kill the girl: he needs that target! The guy is as sly as a fox! Except, of course, because he says, "HAW HAW, I DON'T NEED A GUN EVEN THOUGH I COULD KILL YOU WITH IT IN TWO SECONDS!" before tossing the pistol aside. But that isn't enough for him, so he follows up with, "HAW HAW, I DON'T NEED A TARGET EVEN THOUGH I COULD LEAD YOU AROUND LIKE AN OX ON A LEASH!" and lets the little girl go. Then Arnie mutters, "Get outta here, you absolute moron," grabs the remains of the gnome, and stabs the Macho Man. It concludes with a happy ending where Arnie, the girl, the flight attendant, and Colonel Basil Exposition all walk off into the sunset together. And just like that, the story is over; apparently, the flight attendant has a thing for Arnie's rugged physique.

Moral of the story

In the right hands, a garden gnome is a lethal weapon.
Justin Patel Justin Patel Active Member
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#16 ·
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Sean Williams44 Sean Williams44 Newcomer
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#17 ·
🙂

Just picked up Terminator 2 along with The New York Times for about 29 bucks, and honestly, I couldn't care less about
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Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#18 ·
casualotter21 said:
Intro

Close-up on bulging, sweaty muscles. Close-up on the motorcycle. Close-up on some massive oak logs tossed over a shoulder like they weigh nothing. Close-up on an absolutely killer soundtrack... okay, *relatively* killer considering it was played entirely on a single synthesizer. Then, a close-up on the face. AHA! There he is—our hero. Just what kind of absolute beast of a human being are we looking at?

Wait... what even is this? Someone’s sneaking up on him from behind?! And then... it’s just... a close-up of a little girl! A close-up of an ice cream cone! A close-up of someone eating! A close-up of fishing! A close-up of a tender orchestral soundtrack. So... turns out our monster is actually just a decent, devoted dad!

When a movie kicks off like that, I’m basically sold right then and there. Honestly, you usually only see stuff this over-the-top in Republican Party campaign ads.

What's the deal?

This scene wraps up that tedious character setup. Now we just have to slog through the plot summary before the actual carnage begins. We get the whole rundown from Colonel Basil Exposition. Honestly, that minute and a half was such a drag that I actually skipped ahead. By the time I rewound, those pseudo-American paramilitary insurgents—led by the Macho Man from the Village People—had already snatched Arnie's daughter. You can tell the Macho Man is the villain because he’s decked out in black leather, a metal mesh shirt, and porn-star whiskers. I mean, how much more flamboyant can you get? Of course, in this kind of movie, being that flashy basically means you're pure evil. It’s the Republican Party era, after all.

After a brief car chase that wraps up with an absolute car EXPLOSION, the Macho Man threatens Arnie's daughter, telling him he has to head over to the States to take someone out. Honestly, why the Macho Man doesn't just kill the kid once Arnie rounds that first corner is beyond me. But hey, he’s got plenty of other massive screw-ups in this movie, and I'm looking forward to pointing them all out.

Arnie, obviously, wouldn't dream of heading over to some random third-world country. On the plane, he takes out that guy tracking him—you know, the one who's basically asking for it—and makes it look like he’s just sleeping so he doesn't cause a massive scene. Then he hits the flight attendant with, "Don't bother my friend. He's *dead* tired!" Haha, Arnie! You've got a *killer* sense of humor. Seriously, I am DYING! After that, Arnie slips through the plane's cargo hold and just leaps from 300 meters up without a parachute. Luckily, someone probably spat on a field near the airport, because Arnie lands right there without a single scratch.

This little Italian guy strolls in (TA-DA!) trying to charm this gorgeous Black flight attendant. Just by being a woman and Black, she’s basically a total airhead! HAW HAW!! Then she spends the whole time whining and proving she can't handle anything. It’s such delicious satire—absolutely hilarious! Then Arnie jumps into her car and tells her to follow the Italian guy. He rips out the passenger seat just so he can hide on the floorboards, thinking the Italian won't notice Arnie is tailing them. The car is this loud, bright red Chevrolet Corvette, and honestly, Arnie doesn't even try to stay hidden on the floor during the rest of the chase. If I were charging him for that, I’d bill him three times what that seat is actually worth just for the sheer lack of logic.

An Italian guy walks into this sketchy, smoke-filled Mexican cantina tucked right in the middle of a family-friendly shopping mall. Out of pure boredom, Arnie takes out a few security guards, rips the intercom off the wall, and goes right back to tailing the guy. The stakeout ends with him tossing a ragdoll that looks just like the Italian dude straight into a canyon. Then we get into the detective plot where a flight attendant, Arnie, Shaggy, and Scooby-Doo try to figure out where the secret military base for those USA paramilitary guerrillas is hiding. Turns out, it’s in LA. Not in the shopping mall. Though, honestly, it would make sense if it were right there next to that shady little bar.

They track down the location of the second secret military base, and then they head straight to a local gun shop packed with everything you could need—I'm talking a full stash of bazookas, rockets, landmines, and all that good stuff. With all those American paramilitary groups running around LA, business at a place like that must be booming, so they definitely make sure to stay well-stocked.

The cops fall for Arnie, but then a flight attendant absolutely wrecks a police truck with a rocket launcher in a massive EXPLOSION. Right after that, while they're at the docks trying to hop into a seaplane, they get chased by a bunch of American guerrillas in a military jeep rocking a heavy machine gun. Arnie takes them out, but the jeep doesn't even EXPLODE. What a letdown.

Then they hit the island. WEEEEEEEEE! Time for a slaughter! Arnie carefully applies camo paint so he can save his daughter using a mix of tactical cunning and stealthy sneaking, except he doesn't actually do any of that, so the paint basically serves the same purpose as ripping the passenger seat out of a Chevrolet Corvette. Arnie starts taking down these American paramilitary guerrillas by hitting them with knives, but they don't EXPLODE. Such a disapo— wait, no, hold on. Okay, it's fine.

What follows is piles of bodies, rapid-fire weapon swapping in the inventory, and constant EXPLOSIONS. Arnie gets hit by one single bullet and then runs out of ammo, forcing him to hide in a garden shed. Even though he's wounded, he kills the next three hundred thousand American paramilitary guerrillas by throwing seedlings and random crap like shurikens and slicing their arms off with a garden gnome, after which they EXPLODE.

Finally, we get the showdown in an underground boiler room: Macho Man, who’s armed to the teeth and holding Arnie's daughter, versus Arnie, who’s holding a swan neck (since he smashed the garden gnome in the last EXPLOSION). Now I see why Macho Man didn't kill the kid: he needs that target! The guy is as sly as a fox! Except he isn't, because he goes, "HAW HAW, I DON'T NEED A GUN EVEN THOUGH I COULD KILL YOU WITH ONE IN A HEARTBEAT!" and tosses his pistol. But that's not enough for him, so he follows up with, "HAW HAW, I DON'T NEED A TARGET EVEN THOUGH I COULD LEAD YOU AROUND LIKE A BULL AROUND A TABLE!" and lets the little girl *go*. Then Arnie says, "Get outta here, you total moron," grabs the swan neck, and stabs Macho Man. It all ends happily with Arnie, the kid, the flight attendant, and Colonel Basil Exposition walking off into the sunset together. And that's that—the story's over, and the flight attendant is head over heels for Arnie's massive muscles.

Moral of the story

In the right hands, a garden gnome is a lethal weapon.

Great post, but just one tiny correction!
The jump from the plane was from about 300 feet, but the speed was roughly 186 miles/h.

Bottom line... The Matrix is actually just Superman dressed up as a Commando.
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#19 ·
Hey... now that I've actually seen that photo looking all sentimental about that movie 😂

They take his daughter or something... and then he jumps off the Statue of Liberty onto a plane or something like that? 🤣
casualotter21 casualotter21 Regular
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#20 ·
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