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Participants Jamie Cox47Patrick King7jadetiger962Gregory Scott29dustymoose3Zachary Bailey3wearyotter36Henry Thompson21Eric Sanchez11
Jamie Cox47 Jamie Cox47 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1 ·
Hey, sorry if this has already been asked somewhere else, but I’m trying to figure out if I’ll get hit with customs fees if I import a bike from Canada. Like, how much of a sting am I looking at for something valued around $820? Thanks, everyone! :-)
Patrick King7 Patrick King7 Member
31 messages
joined Jan 2010
#2 ·
If it’s coming from outside the USA, you’re looking at an extra 🤔8 - 10 %. Then they tack on the sales tax on top of that.
jadetiger962 jadetiger962 Member
31 messages
joined Jun 2006
#3 ·
If my math serves me right, you're looking at a 10% import duty on top of a 25% sales tax, which lands you at a total hit of about 37.5%. Honestly, it doesn't even matter which way you crunch the numbers; the end result stays pretty much the same. 🙂
Gregory Scott29 Gregory Scott29 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2013
#4 ·
When it comes to mail order, bicycles aren't subject to customs duties—regardless of where they're shipped from. It used to be that only bikes coming from the USA were exempt (provided you had the origin certificate), but that changed quite a while ago... now everything is duty-free, leaving only the standard 25% sales tax to deal with.
Parts and accessories for bikes don't get that same break... I can't recall the exact rate off the top of my head, but I definitely remember having to pay duties on a set of pedals once.

Here is a breakdown of common consumer goods imported into California via mail or passenger transit, along with their respective duty rates according to the current Tariff Act of 2013.
Bicycles, strollers - 0
dustymoose3 dustymoose3 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2013
#5 ·
In what manner do you intend to introduce the bicycle?
Jamie Cox47 Jamie Cox47 NewcomerOP
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joined Apr 2013
#6 ·
I was originally thinking I’d have someone drop me off there and then just ride my bike back myself, but now I’m second-guessing everything... Like, am I even allowed to cross the border while wearing the gear I’m trying to get a tax refund on? Or is it better if I just suck it up and pay the full price without the tax break? I had a friend try to claim a VAT refund on a jacket she was actually wearing when she hit customs, and the agents absolutely lost their minds—they were yelling about how you can't be wearing the stuff because it’s supposed to be unused when it crosses the border. Anyway, the bike is Scottish 🙂
Zachary Bailey3 Zachary Bailey3 Member
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joined Jul 2018
#7 ·
Back when I was living in China, there was this one guy who’d hit the border a few times a year with a backpack stuffed full of sand and a bike covered in grime.
Every single time, the agents would dump out his bag and basically start "counting individual grains of sand."
Finally, some retired customs officer decides to grill him and asks what on earth he thought he was doing with all that sand.
He just looks him dead in the eye and says, "Nothing special, man—just smuggling bikes!"😂
dustymoose3 dustymoose3 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2013
#8 ·
In principle, it could be done, but customs agents are tightly coordinated, and Canadian authorities often tip off our American officials (in most instances) if they notice you've requested a tax refund. This makes navigating the process without running into trouble a bit tricky, though it remains technically feasible... if you believe the potential payoff justifies the risk, feel free to proceed. You can always play dumb if they start giving you a hard time :P .
wearyotter36 wearyotter36 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#9 ·
Jamie Cox47 said:I was hoping someone would just drop me off there and I could ride back—but now... can I actually cross the border on the bike I’m trying to get a tax refund for? Or should I just skip the VAT since I'm driving? A friend once tried to claim VAT on a jacket she was already wearing when she hit customs, and they gave her hell because the goods have to be unused to cross the border. Anyway, the bike is Scottish 🙂

Sure, you can ride home and declare the bike at the crossing, but if you're already in a car, why not just toss the bike in the trunk? You have to declare it anyway. 🤷
You end up paying a 25% import duty on the bike just to get about 16.8% back in Canadian tax. It's a way to stay totally legal and move wherever you want without looking over your shoulder. 😂 Reminded me of those old road trips through the Midwest 😂😂
There's also the option of buying parts separately with individual receipts. One receipt per person in the car, one item per person. You'd have to make multiple trips for one bike, but you dodge that 25% import fee and still get the tax back. On a $1,000 bike, you'd get roughly $170 back—minus your time and gas. I'd say you're still walking away with a hundred bucks. 😉
Henry Thompson21 Henry Thompson21 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2013
#10 ·
Zachary Bailey3 said:Back in China, this one guy used to cross the border a few times a year with a backpack stuffed with sand and a bike covered in grime.
Every single time, they’d dump out his bag and start "counting every grain of sand."
Finally, a retired customs officer asked him what on earth was in all that sand.
"Nothing," he replied. "I was just smuggling bikes!"😂

🤣 damn, that's gold. 👍
Eric Sanchez11 Eric Sanchez11 Member
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joined Aug 2011
#11 ·
Forget about that bus getting a VAT refund or dodging taxes. Before you even think about playing dumb and hoping they don't catch on, maybe look up the federal penalties first? Think about if it's worth the risk.
Maybe it’s easier for you to just wait until the US fully integrates into these global trade agreements so customs disappears. But then again, so does the tax refund.

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