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Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active MemberOP
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joined Feb 2013
#1 ·
It is a widely held belief that technology is an unalloyed blessing designed to make human life easier. No one is disputing that—but can we really ignore the potential fallout?

We are constantly bombarded with this phrase "disruptive technology"—a term that essentially carries the subtext that certain technological leaps come at a devastating cost to humanity. Specifically, it refers to the kind of rapid development that strips humans right out of the production cycle, driving unemployment through the roof. On a global scale, the scarcity of jobs that allow anyone willing to work to actually earn a living is undeniably one of our most pressing crises today.

Now, let’s be clear: technological progress has always resulted in certain jobs disappearing, but it has also traditionally created new ones. Everything worked fine as long as that ratio remained positive—you know, as long as we were creating more opportunities than we were destroying.

But today? The landscape is shifting under our feet. We are witnessing automation accelerate at such a pace that it is making human labor redundant in almost every sector of manufacturing. This balance has been violently disrupted, and frankly, it’s no wonder we are seeing rising resentment toward the free market and a surge in protectionist rhetoric across the country.

The real question remains: where does this all end, and is there even a way out?
rowdypilot19 rowdypilot19 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#2 ·
I mean, I usually don't bother replying to people who just post stuff to be contrarian, but honestly, there are ways to handle this. It feels like you're moving in the exact opposite direction lately—like, if things were actually booming and we needed more workers because there were so many jobs, that makes sense, but now we’re looking at a contraction, which basically means... well, I guess it means things aren't multiplying the way they used to.
Nancy Green7 Nancy Green7 Member
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joined Oct 2010
#3 ·
I don't get why people act like disruptive technology is some threat to humanity. It's just a trendy buzzword.

From everything I've read, every single tech revolution—just like the Industrial Revolution—actually ends up creating more jobs, they just require different skills. So again, I don't see the problem.
Zachary White19 Zachary White19 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#4 ·
Amanda Allen4 said:It is a widely held belief that technology is an unalloyed blessing designed to make human life easier. No one is disputing that—but can we really ignore the potential fallout?

We are constantly bombarded with this phrase "disruptive technology"—a term that essentially carries the subtext that certain technological leaps come at a devastating cost to humanity. Specifically, it refers to the kind of rapid development that strips humans right out of the production cycle, driving unemployment through the roof. On a global scale, the scarcity of jobs that allow anyone willing to work to actually earn a living is undeniably one of our most pressing crises today.

Now, let’s be clear: technological progress has always resulted in certain jobs disappearing, but it has also traditionally created new ones. Everything worked fine as long as that ratio remained positive—you know, as long as we were creating more opportunities than we were destroying.

But today? The landscape is shifting under our feet. We are witnessing automation accelerate at such a pace that it is making human labor redundant in almost every sector of manufacturing. This balance has been violently disrupted, and frankly, it’s no wonder we are seeing rising resentment toward the free market and a surge in protectionist rhetoric across the country.

The real question remains: where does this all end, and is there even a way out?

I look at it differently. Maybe the fault isn't with the technology itself, but rather that it gives us all this freedom, and we just don't know what to do with it...
Harold Evans4 Harold Evans4 Active Member
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joined Mar 2015
#5 ·
Is there actually any point in starting yet another thread about this? We've already had two or three just like it, so I really can't be bothered explaining the same damn thing over and over again on every single one.
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
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joined Jun 2008
#6 ·
"Disruptive technology" is just the latest buzzword people toss around when they haven't actually bothered to read up on Schumpeterian creative destruction...
Alex Scott5 Alex Scott5 Member
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joined Jun 2017
#7 ·
With this kind of technology, we’ll finally have more time for our hobbies, gaming, writing poetry, or just hanging out with our pets because robots will be handling all the heavy lifting 😁and

The horse was once an indispensable working animal, serving as a fundamental pillar of the economy in many ways, both as a means of transport and a tool for labor. Naturally, when mechanization expanded and the roles for horses vanished, they didn't simply transition into newly created job sectors, nor did they suddenly find themselves with extra free time for strolls and leisure—they simply disappeared as if they had never existed at all.

All these claims about a massive leap in civilization and the successful transformation of millions upon millions of blue-collar workers into high-tech specialists or free-spirited artists once automation replaces them... honestly, those ideas are nothing more than the result of being on easy drugs. 😁
Nancy Green7 Nancy Green7 Member
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joined Oct 2010
#8 ·
Thank God I’m not some mindless drone. When automation kicks me out of one job, I just move on to the next one.
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active MemberOP
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joined Feb 2013
#9 ·
At this rate, actual sailors are going to become an endangered species—unless, of course, you happen to be one of those elites cruising around on a private yacht 😁.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/transportat...re-almost-here
Henry Hernandez7 Henry Hernandez7 Active Member
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joined Apr 2014
#10 ·
Sorry guys, I was reading somewhere a few months back that this latest tech revolution is set to wipe out about 47% of all jobs over the next 20 to 30 years, so it really makes you wonder what kind of new roles we’re actually supposed to be talking about here?

That's basically why Musk was sitting down with the Biden administration a while ago to talk about Universal Basic Income—whether people are working or not—because those jobs are definitely disappearing, and places like Scandinavia 🤔 are already testing out models like that for the unemployed, since they're predicting up to 50% of the global population could end up in that boat in the coming years.

And just a side note, mortality rates tend to climb when people lose their sense of purpose through work (look at how the Japanese work the longest and live the longest).

The world is at a massive turning point, so this whole thing goes way deeper than just some basic economic theory.
Grace Jones86 Grace Jones86 Active Member
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joined Dec 2009
#11 ·
Alex Scott5 said:With this kind of technology, we’ll finally have more time for our hobbies, gaming, writing poetry, or just hanging out with our pets because robots will be handling all the heavy lifting 😁and

The horse was once an indispensable working animal, serving as a fundamental pillar of the economy in many ways, both as a means of transport and a tool for labor. Naturally, when mechanization expanded and the roles for horses vanished, they didn't simply transition into newly created job sectors, nor did they suddenly find themselves with extra free time for strolls and leisure—they simply disappeared as if they had never existed at all.

All these claims about a massive leap in civilization and the successful transformation of millions upon millions of blue-collar workers into high-tech specialists or free-spirited artists once automation replaces them... honestly, those ideas are nothing more than the result of being on easy drugs. 😁

Exactly what is bolded here.
Drugs. Narcotics. Meds.
😁

People will need medical intervention. You asking how? People are a completely broken species right now. Mentally shattered. The entire moral and intellectual framework of the population has devolved into nonsense inherited from previous centuries—eras where life and work were privileges you had to bloody earn. Maybe you got the chance to bleed. 😁 If you were "good." If you weren't "good," you didn't even get that chance. No blood, nothing. You just die alone.
Because that mindset is so deeply embedded in today's population, concepts like UBI, mass "unemployment," or pursuing art 🙂😁 as a paid lifestyle sound like total trash to people. That isn't how nature raises us. And nature has been defeated. Even Google Translate from a few weeks ago suggests that in just a couple of months, even something sophisticated like language proficiency will become trash—an irrelevant skill, let alone a profession.
etc...
Humanity will have to be upgraded into fancy beings somehow.
Call it eugenics 😬 or call it whatever you want, but that is how it is going to be. 🐔
Rachel Cruz3 Rachel Cruz3 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2010
#12 ·
The machines are coming—resistance is futile, and assimilation is inevitable.

The robots are closer than we think... Walmart has been testing those "self-scan" kiosks in several locations for years now—no humans required.
Nancy Green7 Nancy Green7 Member
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joined Oct 2010
#13 ·
Jobs will die out, and new ones will pop up. I remember when I was a kid, the richest guy in the neighborhood was the local video rental store owner. Years ago, blacksmiths were making a killing. Now? Nobody even remembers they existed. If you have kids today, try explaining how a video rental shop actually worked. 🙂 It’ll be just like how the idea of a grocery store cashier will feel like some abstract concept to our grandkids.
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
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joined Apr 2017
#14 ·
Amanda Allen4 said:It is a widely held belief that technology is an unalloyed blessing designed to make human life easier. No one is disputing that—but can we really ignore the potential fallout?

We are constantly bombarded with this phrase "disruptive technology"—a term that essentially carries the subtext that certain technological leaps come at a devastating cost to humanity. Specifically, it refers to the kind of rapid development that strips humans right out of the production cycle, driving unemployment through the roof. On a global scale, the scarcity of jobs that allow anyone willing to work to actually earn a living is undeniably one of our most pressing crises today.

Now, let’s be clear: technological progress has always resulted in certain jobs disappearing, but it has also traditionally created new ones. Everything worked fine as long as that ratio remained positive—you know, as long as we were creating more opportunities than we were destroying.

But today? The landscape is shifting under our feet. We are witnessing automation accelerate at such a pace that it is making human labor redundant in almost every sector of manufacturing. This balance has been violently disrupted, and frankly, it’s no wonder we are seeing rising resentment toward the free market and a surge in protectionist rhetoric across the country.

The real question remains: where does this all end, and is there even a way out?

The solution? Higher taxes and a universal basic income.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...for-unemployed

Or...

We head back to the countryside.

I’m honestly not sure if people realize just how much they can accomplish. An average American family of four could eat quite well on just about an acre of land if they were willing to put in the work...

In parts of the rural US, you'll find counties that actually give away land for free to young families looking to relocate. I've even heard stories of towns providing building materials just to help get a house up. I have no clue if those programs are still active today, but the concept remains...

Period.

Period.
rowdypilot19 rowdypilot19 Active Member
143 messages
joined Jan 2018
#15 ·
Ima:

I mean, I know there were actually way better options out there too... like, maybe 30 miles outside of San Diego, I can't remember the exact spot, but they had this one plant or factory that was looking for workers, so they ended up picking up a huge chunk of people that way. And honestly, I don't think there was even a strict limit on what kind of stuff you needed, it was mostly just about how many people were living in your house. I guess they were mainly focusing on families with three or more kids, if I recall correctly.
jadeorca42 jadeorca42 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#16 ·
Some American studies are predicting that we’re looking at maybe 80,000,000 (eighty million) people losing their jobs to automation pretty soon—and apparently, the powers that be are already drawing up "contingency plans" just to make sure they don't end up facing some kind of massive socialist uprising.

I mean, you tell me...

At this rate, I guess the smartest move might actually be to train for something that requires high-level manual dexterity—you know, the kind of fine motor skills where robots still struggle—like picking tomatoes in 😁 a rural valley somewhere. Plus, we'd probably have to take out all those robotics experts who are working overtime to make sure that very problem gets solved 😁 in the first place 😁😁.

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