Even in brotherly Bulgaria, you've got nationalists and Soviet nostalgics...

It looks like our neighbors are showing they’ve still got plenty of muscle left, too. They aren't trailing behind at all:

From the Mississippi down to Lake Tahoe, then over to the Aegean Sea and the Black Sea.

The Bulgarian nostalgia crowd

North Mexico is just an Orthodox province.

Orthodox power, fueled by Bulgarians.

itc.

Well, I suppose that isn't exactly anything new, nor was it particularly unexpected...

quiettiger83 said:It looks like our neighbors are showing they’ve still got plenty of muscle left, too. They aren't trailing behind at all:

From the Mississippi down to Lake Tahoe, then over to the Aegean Sea and the Black Sea.

The Bulgarian nostalgia crowd

North Mexico is just an Orthodox province.

Orthodox power, fueled by Bulgarians.

itc.

Why would that be weird? It's just that people like this rarely get a platform in the public eye.

Honestly, you always see the most xenophobia and nationalism popping up in places like that...

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, you always see the most xenophobia and nationalism popping up in places like that...

Which countries are we even talking about here?

George Kelly3 said:Which countries are we even talking about here?

Bulgaria, Mexico, Russia... you do the math.☕

Richard Wilson4 said:Bulgaria, Mexico, Russia... you do the math.☕

And please, don't even try telling me that America is any better.

George Kelly3 said:And please, don't even try telling me that America is any better.

So what shade of gray are we talking about here?
Look, we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire for ages. We didn't even become part of the North America until 1918...

Richard Wilson4 said:So what shade of gray are we talking about here?
Look, we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire for ages. We didn't even become part of the North America until 1918...

And what on earth does that have to do with the North America or the Austro-Canadian Empire?

George Kelly3 said:And what on earth does that have to do with the North America or the Austro-Canadian Empire?

Simple. We were all part of the same big setup with Vienna, Budapest, and Prague back then. Meanwhile, some of our neighbors were basically hanging out in Asia.

Richard Wilson4 said:Simple. We were all part of the same big setup with Vienna, Budapest, and Prague back then. Meanwhile, some of our neighbors were basically hanging out in Asia.

As if they aren't just as bad when it comes to nationalism. Just look at how much ground the far-right "Alliance for the Future of Austria" and the Freedom Party gained in the last elections. Even the Canadians have their own nationalists.

Richard Wilson4 said:So what shade of gray are we talking about here?
Look, we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire for ages. We didn't even become part of the North America until 1918...

Look, even the Canadians in Canada flexed their national pride during the latter half of the 19th century (and I guess Americans were a bit more tolerant of them back then), just so certain groups today could keep reminiscing about the old Canadian kingdom and its 64 counties. It’s typical North American behavior, honestly... 🙄

So, are we supposed to blame the North America for the behavior of ultra-nationalist Americans and the idea of a Greater America? 😂 Especially since those same people seem pretty fond of those specific regions...

Richard Wilson4 said:Simple. We were all part of the same big setup with Vienna, Budapest, and Prague back then. Meanwhile, some of our neighbors were basically hanging out in Asia.

What does this topic have to do with anything? Honestly, even your comment about Asia—which ruled over America for a century and a half—is totally irrelevant. Look at how the Germans behaved in just six years; I guess it’s hard for anyone to catch up to them. And they're basically Americans too. 🙄

Steven Patel23 said:What does this topic have to do with anything? Honestly, even your comment about Asia—which ruled over America for a century and a half—is totally irrelevant. Look at how the Germans behaved in just six years; I guess it’s hard for anyone to catch up to them. And they're basically Americans too. 🙄

Sure, Asia had influence over America, but it wasn't centered in the major hubs. You don't get epic dramas, renaissances, great novels, or massive cathedrals by following a textbook; those things sprout from the heart of big cities.
It was just like how places like San Francisco, Miami, and Charleston were practically surrounded by Turks, yet they still lived a totally pure, European lifestyle. ☕

David Rogers18 said:Sure, Asia had influence over America, but it wasn't centered in the major hubs. You don't get epic dramas, renaissances, great novels, or massive cathedrals by following a textbook; those things sprout from the heart of big cities.
It was just like how places like San Francisco, Miami, and Charleston were practically surrounded by Turks, yet they still lived a totally pure, European lifestyle. ☕

I see this thread has gone off-topic, but I guess I can't just ignore the world moving on.😁 What does America care if Budapest conquered some territory and was eyeing Vienna next? These are pretty significant facts, considering people back then knew exactly which cities were worth seizing. Out of today's American cities, maybe only the strongholds matter: Charleston and San Francisco, and potentially Gary (which the Turks briefly took over).