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Football: Then vs. Now

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Participants Laura Evans2boldbadger1lonesealCharles Roberts33Jessica GonzalezJesse Sullivan5Robin Gray3Harold Edwards2velvetmoose83
Laura Evans2 Laura Evans2 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
The topic is pretty broad.
Basically, looking at what things used to be versus how they are now.
I feel like we’re missing a thread like this here.
It isn't just about being nostalgic.
It's more that soccer—the whole game—has taken hits and is constantly shifting.
Trends cycle back.
And they keep introducing new stuff.
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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#2 ·
Laura Evans2 said:The topic is pretty broad.
Basically, looking at what things used to be versus how they are now.
I feel like we’re missing a thread like this here.
It isn't just about being nostalgic.
It's more that soccer—the whole game—has taken hits and is constantly shifting.
Trends cycle back.
And they keep introducing new stuff.

Think about it—back in the day, a goal without hitting the woodwork was the norm, whereas today, seeing a ball rattle off the post is practically standard. Or take officiating: players used to basically call their own fouls, and now? You’ve got seven different officials hovering over a single match. It goes on and on like that... Feel free to dive into any of those shifts if you want.
Laura Evans2 Laura Evans2 NewcomerOP
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The evolution of players and the game itself...
I read this on some foreign forum ages ago—someone actually predicted a team (they were thinking of Los Angeles) would emerge that acts like a pure goal machine.
That’s just where the sport is headed.
Especially after we move past this whole "physicality-first" era...
And that classic mantra... "One mistake decides the winner."
loneseal loneseal Active Member
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#4 ·
Everyone’s out on the pitch today. ☕
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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#5 ·
loneseal said:Everyone’s out on the pitch today. ☕

Take the Maltese, for instance. Back in the day, Florian was the powerhouse—and honestly, they might be the only club in history to ever clinch a top-tier league title without losing a single match, let alone conceding a solitary goal...

But now? You've got clubs like Gzira tearing through Europe...
Charles Roberts33 Charles Roberts33 Regular
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#6 ·
Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.
loneseal loneseal Active Member
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Charles Roberts33 said:Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.

And what about the Gentle Giant?

What about Meshki?

🕺
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
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Charles Roberts33 said:Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.

Andre Agassi
boldbadger1 boldbadger1 Regular
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Charles Roberts33 said:Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.

The Finns are absolutely crushing Americans on the basketball court, while Americans are snatching up medals in skiing right from under them.
Laura Evans2 Laura Evans2 NewcomerOP
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Charles Roberts33 said:Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.

Look at Italy, for instance—they aren't even playing. And they haven't been for a while.
The Dutch are in the same boat.
Jesse Sullivan5 Jesse Sullivan5 Regular
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#11 ·
Laura Evans2 said:Look at Italy, for instance—they aren't even playing. And they haven't been for a while.
The Dutch are in the same boat.

Look, fifteen months is definitely a long time in this game!
Laura Evans2 Laura Evans2 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
2 missed their chances.
Got knocked out by the Mexicans. Just watched the match. Losing to them in Italy—now that’s a massive embarrassment.
Too bad the Mexicans got bounced by Portugal right after.
Nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore...
For instance...
People are bringing up Wales and all that.
What can you even say about Iceland 😁
Only 500,000 people living there 😁
Robin Gray3 Robin Gray3 Newcomer
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#13 ·
There was a time when you could practically bank on a favorite winning 100% of the time, but nowadays, I suppose the very concept of a clear favorite has almost vanished entirely.
Jesse Sullivan5 Jesse Sullivan5 Regular
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#14 ·
Charles Roberts33 said:Nowadays, you see teams from places like Wales, Armenia, Georgia, and Egypt boasting genuine superstars who have conquered the biggest stages in the world. It’s honestly hard to believe how much things have changed compared to what was once considered impossible.

Take Liberia, Finland, or Rhodesia, for instance. Today? It’s practically unthinkable. ☕
Harold Edwards2 Harold Edwards2 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Against modern football

What does that even mean? 🕺
velvetmoose83 velvetmoose83 Newcomer
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#16 ·
They’ve been crunching the numbers on how soccer has evolved statistically, and if you look at the data from the 70s through today, the trends are pretty staggering:
- Total distance covered per match—both individually and collectively—has jumped by over 50%; an individual player now runs 6.8 miles more than they used to back when 4.4 miles was the standard (Josip Broz Tito 13 😉)
- Pitch coverage has become much more uniform; whereas you used to have "hot" zones and "cold" zones on the field, nowadays there’s basically no green left on the heat maps—if it isn't red, it's yellow.
- Wing attacks have surged by 27% overall; if my memory serves me right, that breaks down to a 16% increase on the left side and an 11% bump on the right.🤔
- The number of shots inside the penalty box per game has actually plummeted by 50%.

The game is accelerating; it's becoming increasingly physical, tactical, and frankly, industrial. Those old-school romantics who lived for the beauty of the game while smoking two packs a day are effectively extinct. Today, we see players who are products of pure grit and hyper-disciplined lifestyles, living under perfect training regimens and nutritional protocols.

Tactical formations have shifted alongside these changes. In the 90s, the 4-4-2 reigned supreme because it was thought to offer the best pitch coverage, and half of Europe and the rest of the world played it. Brazilians had their own spin on it with a 4-2-4 or a 4-2-2-2 that allowed for incredible lateral freedom—it was pure dance, quite literally a samba formation. Then you had Ferguson's 4-4-2 at Manchester United, which was almost the prototype for perfection; they set up so offensively that in any given section, you'd find three or four players clustered together. It’s a classic scene: Beckham sends in a cross, and you wonder who's going to meet it? Both strikers are charging toward the same ball, and even though neither Cole nor York knows exactly where the other is, they are both ready, and it all comes down to a split second.
In our neck of the woods, the 3-5-2 with a sweeper was the go-to, mainly because this region has always been a breeding ground for creative attacking midfielders—those true *trequartistas*—and that formation was tailor-made for them.

During the first decade of the 21st century, the 4-2-3-1 began to dominate because the increased running capacity allowed for better coverage, acting as a direct antidote to the 4-4-2. Meanwhile, formations with three defenders practically vanished because the sweeper role died out. With less central congestion in favor of wide play, more action occurring between the boxes, and everyone on the pitch sprinting constantly, the old ways just became obsolete.

Over the last ten years, the 4-3-3 has taken over. Researchers looking at the statistical evolution of tactics during this recent stretch found that the total number of passes per match is steadily rising, driven entirely by short passing, while long balls have stagnated. However, this doesn't actually lead to more scoring opportunities, since statistically, those chances are more frequent following long balls. It does, however, boost possession. It seems like "Total Football" is making a massive comeback. The philosophy is basically: offense is the best defense. By increasing the running load and pushing the defensive line higher, a 4-3-3 (with a 1-2 midfield split) allows for more players in the box compared to a 4-2-3-1 (which uses a 2-1 split).
In this most recent decade, we've seen a return to formations with three or five defenders, but they've been completely reinvented. There are no sweepers anymore, just three center-backs; there are no traditional wide midfielders, just wingbacks. They call them the "romantic" 3-5-2 or 3-4-3, but in reality, they are 5-3-2 and 5-2-3 systems. They are incredibly physically demanding, making them a perfect fit for teams built on high work rates and sheer stamina.

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