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Has anyone ever tried row fish?

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Arthur Taylor5 Arthur Taylor5 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Am I talking about sushi? I mean, we all know that dish, but... noooo, definitely not that!
My head is actually spinning around something else entirely—something that feeds our minds. You know, actual brain food? But then I start wondering, does our mind feed us, or are we just biological machines being used by our minds to sustain themselves? And honestly, do we even exist as whole beings, or are we just a bunch of tiny fragments trying to make a whole? Did I even write a coherent sentence there or......? Man, the questions just keep piling up. Is it true what they say, "for every question, there’s an answer," and are those questions and answers actually the stuff that nourishes our consciousness? If that's the case, then our minds are basically snacking on raw fish—which, let's be real, most people (especially those who have never even tried it) aren't exactly crazy about. And even for the ones who love it, are they even aware that this kind of "food" might not actually be good for their psyche! I can't help but wonder if our minds, when fed this kind of mental junk food, will start asking weirder questions and giving us even crazier orders as if we're just instruments for their endless curiosity.
Am I even truly aware of what I'm typing out here in this little rambling essay, or is it just my mind pulling the strings on "me," allowing this raw slaughter of thoughts to happen on the screen?
Seriously though, guys, is this kind of naive writing the first step toward realizing how my own mind actually functions? And does understanding myself actually mean I'm killing my mind, driving myself straight into what shrinks/psychiatrists would call a total mental breakdown!
Do you guys actually like people who obsess over the human psyche? What do they see in studying something so sophisticated and beautiful, yet at the exact same time so repulsive and slimy as the human mind? Do they think they'll find some ultimate truth about themselves and realize we're somehow better than other animals, or are they just trying to trick themselves into believing we aren't just as lowly and gross as a rat, or maybe as lowly yet magnificent as a peacock?
Can my mind truly grasp itself and understand the minds of others the way Freud did? Was Freud teaching us about everyone else by looking inward at himself? It's like those mad scientists testing their discoveries on their own bodies, leading to a Jekyll and Hyde situation that reveals who we really are underneath—even though we stubbornly try to hide it and lie to ourselves. Is it even possible to be a genuinely good person? Does the Hyde within a person only emerge under specific circumstances, or does he develop right alongside Jekyll until he suddenly snaps and takes control? Is Hyde actually our true mind, while Jekyll is just the persona we fight against to stay sane? Are we just prisoners of our own minds and the society we live in, almost like we're stuck in The Matrix, or are the mind and society two things that just can't coexist? Personally, I don't think they can.
And finally, are we eating this raw fish voluntarily, or are we being systematically fed it because there's nothing else left due to some metaphorical drought? And why should that be the end of it? Why wouldn't this continue until "the one" is born—someone who actually knows how to eat differently and understands what real nourishment looks like! To anyone who thinks I've officially lost it: please, just donate some healthy food so I can recover; maybe then I'll stop overanalyzing my own brain!
hollowviper72 hollowviper72 Regular
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#2 ·
I’m really not a fan of any of those raw seafood platters—honestly, even sushi isn't really my thing. I can't do Row fish, it just doesn't sit right with me.

On another note, why are you trying so hard to distance yourself from your own mind? You talk about it as if it were some external organ or an entity that exists entirely separate from "you." Well, let me tell you one thing—if you keep thinking that way, I can almost guarantee you'll be stuck eating proverbial sushi until you finally hit a state of cognitive enlightenment. So, instead of running away from your own consciousness by treating your mind like some stranger you need to evade, perhaps it would be more productive to realize that you *are* your mind. Because of that, every question and every answer belongs to you—you are the one at the helm, steering the ship. It’s easier said than done, I know, but it's definitely worth the effort.
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
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#3 ·
Arthur Taylor5 said:Did you ever eat row fish ?

maybe try:
"Have you ever eaten raw fish?" 🙂

And to answer—no. No way am I doing that! I'll stick to some grilled trout. 👍
Nicole Jones9 Nicole Jones9 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Row fish? Please, that’s just canned tuna, yum, yum.

But you know what’s actually missing? A perfectly grilled sea bass or some delicious grilled octopus.😉
Rachel Bishop Rachel Bishop Active Member
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#5 ·
Arthur Taylor5 said:Sushi? Everyone knows the dish, but no...! Not that...!
Am I thinking of food? Or mental sustenance? Does our mind feed us, or are we merely biological machines used by the mind to sustain itself? Are we whole beings, or just a collection of parts masquerading as a unit? Did I even write a coherent sentence there, or...? Questions upon questions. Is it true that "for every question, there is an answer," and are those answers simply what feeds the intellect? If so, then our minds are feasting on raw fish—which most people can't stand, and even those who do might not realize how toxic that diet is for their psyche. I suspect if we feed our minds this way, the questions they start asking will eventually turn us into nothing more than instruments for their own curiosity.
Do I even grasp what I’ve written here, or is my mind simply operating through me, allowing this raw slaughter of thought onto the page?
Is this kind of naive scribbling the beginning of understanding how the brain works? And does self-awareness actually lead to self-destruction—to what psychiatrists would call madness?
Do you actually like people obsessed with the human psyche? What do they find in studying something so sophisticated and beautiful, yet simultaneously so repulsive and slimy as the human mind? Do they think they'll achieve some higher state of being, or are they just trying to convince themselves that we aren't any different from a common rat—or perhaps a peacock?
Can my mind truly comprehend itself, or perceive others, the way Freud did? Did Freud study others by looking inward, much like mad scientists test their inventions on themselves? This leads to the inevitable Jekyll and Hyde scenario where the truth of our nature is revealed, though we stubbornly hide it to maintain our delusions. Is it possible to be purely good? Does the Hyde within emerge only under specific pressures, or does he develop alongside Jekyll until he suddenly seizes control? Is Hyde our true essence, while Jekyll is merely the mask we use to fight him? Are we prisoners of our own minds and the society we inhabit, trapped like in The Matrix, or are the mind and society fundamentally incompatible? I doubt it.
And finally, do we eat this raw fish by choice, or are we systematically fed it because there is nothing else left in the drought? Why should it end? Why shouldn't this continue until "the one" is born—someone who understands how to find better sustenance? To anyone who thinks I'm crazy: please, donate some healthy food. Maybe if I fix my diet, I'll stop overanalyzing my own existence.

We are captives of our own minds, held under its thumb regardless of what we feed it. In that sense, the only way out is... starvation.
Well, that's easy to say. Put it on a strict diet, move to fasting, and see if it ever lets you out of its prison. As for what lies in freedom... well, that has nothing to do with hot dogs or bourbon.😉
hollowviper72 hollowviper72 Regular
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#6 ·
Hmm... stop feeding the mind? But how exactly does one go about that? Is it some kind of mental tug-of-war? 🙂
Personally, I’d argue that the real solution lies in the nature of our own consciousness. Think about it this way—if our awareness is functioning like a prison, then sure, we’re stuck. Prisoners can attempt an escape, but can a prison itself somehow just... walk away from its own walls? That’s the crux of the matter. If the mind is truly liberated, then the individual is free. It really all boils down to a single decision. You don't necessarily need a strict diet to get there...
Rachel Bishop Rachel Bishop Active Member
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#7 ·
hollowviper72 said:Hmm... stop feeding the mind? How exactly does one do that? Pulling some sort of mental stunt? 🙂
I’d argue the solution lies in our consciousness. If it functions like a prison, then sure—inmates can escape, but can a prison itself escape its own walls? That’s the crux. Freedom is an internal state. It all comes down to a choice. No restrictive diet required...

How? I won't claim it's easy. But it's worth it. Only then do you realize there is nothing else but infinite freedom...😉
George Gonzalez25 George Gonzalez25 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Pandora said:How? Look, I’m not saying it’s easy... but it’s worth it... because only then does it become clear that nothing truly exists except for infinite freedom...😉

I’d like to point out two specific words in your response that basically dismantle the whole idea of an answer—you're turning this into a complete abyss of guesswork instead. So, just to make things any clearer, could you actually explain what you mean by "infinite"... and then follow that up with "freedom"...?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#9 ·
Someone needs to step down from this position....👎
ironbadger31 ironbadger31 Active Member
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#10 ·
swiftcobra15 said:So, let's keep this going with a bit of a retrospective:
Back when I was posting on an American forum and had to declare where I stood, I wrote:
SKEPTIC (very, very important), AGNOSTIC (important),
ATEIST (not important at all, just a byproduct of 1. & 2.)
(totally irrelevant—just what happens because of 1. & 2.)

Of course, all of this applies to our level of rationality, and humans are meant to be rational beings.
But wait, what does it actually mean to be a rational being? 😕

A lot of people seem to think that rationality is the absolute core of what makes us human.
Honestly? That sounds pretty ridiculous to me.😉

Rationality is really just our differentia specifica — you know, the thing that sets us apart from other creatures (like animals, for instance)—but we only truly become "rational beings" after a whole lot of other stuff comes into play first.

Just to joke around using my limited grasp of German:
Humans aren't rational über alles (above everything), but rather unter alles,
meaning we sit somewhere in the middle (and after) everything else.

You could even argue that it's just one of those marginal traits—something most people barely practice in any significant way.😉

Are you saying you mostly live by instinct rather than logic? Like, reason is just this little crutch that somehow slipped "unter alles" under your entire existence, and you're basically just a slightly more advanced monkey?

Wow, talk about staying humble!😁
John Walker74 John Walker74 Active Member
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#11 ·
You gotta wish for it, then you gotta work for it, then you actually feed yourself, and finally, you end up burping in honor of your own damn mind.
As soon as anyone dares to bring up the subject of the mind, the mind itself steps up to the plate, and it’ll be the one giving you the answer.😁😉
swiftcobra15 swiftcobra15 Regular
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#12 ·
ironbadger31 said:So, you're telling me you mostly live by instinct rather than logic? That reason is just some little thing that snuck under your radar, and you're essentially just a slightly more evolved primate?

Well, that’s certainly a modest way to put it!😁

That was a pretty cheap shot. Where on earth do you think this "instinct" comes from?
Humans don't have instincts.
Are you perhaps leaning too hard into scientific reductionism, thinking everything can be boiled down to just logic versus instinct? 😕

Give it another shot—try to make it a better argument this time!😉
ironbadger31 ironbadger31 Active Member
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#13 ·
ironbadger31 said:Honestly, this is just cheap sabotage. Where on earth are you getting this "instinct" idea from?
Look, people don't just have these raw instincts.
Are you stuck in some kind of scientific reductionist mindset where everything boils down to just pure logic versus gut feeling? Because that’s a pretty narrow way to see the world. 😕

Give it another shot—and maybe try being a little more thoughtful this time!😉

Wait, hold on! You actually argued that humans aren't fundamentally rational beings—that reason is just some marginal trait we carry around "underneath it all."

I mean, what am I even supposed to say to that? If that's true, then what exactly *is* the essence of being human?

Is a human just an "animal rationale"? Or is there something else going on?😉 Or what?

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