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Help with a PC rebuild/upgrade

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Bradley Adams34 Bradley Adams34 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Nov 2017
#1 ·
My PC has been driving me absolutely insane lately because it’s just so painfully slow. It’s an old machine, about 10 years old now, running an Intel Ryzen 3 with only 2 GB of RAM, so I finally decided it was time for a refresh. My plan is to swap out the motherboard, the processor, and the RAM. I found these specific parts online, but I need to know if they actually work with my current setup—and more importantly, if these new components are even compatible with each other...

By the way, I noticed this processor comes with integrated graphics. Is that actually any good? I don't need this thing for anything heavy-duty. Just basic web browsing, YouTube, live streaming, and maybe the occasional round of Need for Speed 😁.

Also, all these different memory types are incredibly confusing... DDR1, 2, 3... what is the actual difference? And is 2 GB enough, or should I just bite the bullet and go with 4 GB?

Thanks.
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#2 ·
If it’s sitting around ten years old, you're probably looking at an ATA hard drive, so you'll likely need to swap that out too. The power supply is just as ancient, so I'd say that needs replacing as well.

That processor you picked is a bit weak, honestly; you'd probably be better off grabbing a quad-core instead. Plus, it comes with a much stronger graphics card, so you could actually play something like Need for Speed without issues, and it'll stay relevant longer. As for the RAM, these newer builds always use DDR3, and I guess 4GB is the sweet spot.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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joined Jun 2010
#3 ·
That really depends on which Need for Speed we're talking about. 😁 I guess those newer ones won't play nice with that integrated graphics, though they might run okay on Main Street. Like fadedorca66 mentioned, you'll probably end up needing to swap out the drive and the power supply too.

Everything would probably be much better if things were just completely new and fair. $667.
Bradley Adams34 Bradley Adams34 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Oh, I forgot to mention one more thing: I really want to keep my current "setup" intact. I’ve got Windows XP running on this machine and I’m completely used to it. Honestly, the thought of reinstalling Windows and hunting down every single program and application all over again sounds like a nightmare. Is that even doable?

Also, regarding the power supply—I just bought a new one a year ago after my old unit died on me. The only issue would be if this one is too weak...

Thanks for the quick replies.
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
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joined Jun 2010
#5 ·
When you're running a CPU with integrated graphics, pretty much any power supply will do the trick. 😉

I’m a bit worried about trying this with Windows XP. Windows 7 and 8 are way more flexible when it comes to newer hardware. I'd say there's a 95% chance you'll end up having to reinstall everything from scratch.

Could you scrape together 1500-$533? You could probably pick up everything except for the PSU, the case, and the optical drive. Also, can you check which hard drive you've got? It would drop the price significantly if it's a SATA 🙂 drive.
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#6 ·
That’s probably going to be a headache. You're looking at a 10-year-old machine here, so the drivers are going to be worlds apart from whatever new PC you end up buying. Even if you tried swapping the hard drive or cloning the whole thing, I guess it might not even boot up. And if it did? It’d likely be a buggy mess that causes more grief than it's worth. Honestly, you're better off just installing Windows 7. It feels pretty similar to Windows XP, so you'll get the hang of it easily, plus you'll actually have decent driver support, software compatibility, and everything else you need.
Bradley Adams34 Bradley Adams34 MemberOP
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#7 ·
I think I have two drives left, one is a WD 1600GB and the other is a WD 500GB. Look, it’s not about whether it costs an extra couple of bucks or if it’ll work with the latest Windows updates. What really gets under my skin is having to reinstall all that absolute garbage software again. Is there seriously zero chance to skip that whole headache? 😁 And my desktop is built exactly how I want it, so I’d be stuck redoing the entire setup too... honestly, it's because of stuff like this that I avoid touching my PC at all, lol

As for my burner, I'm definitely swapping it out since the current one isn't performing great. It reads fine, but the burning speed is pathetic, haha. Not that I care much though—it's plug&play and cheap enough.

One more thing: is this processor actually better than the one mentioned above? I haven't kept up with these naming conventions lately and the whole thing is just confusing... the prices are pretty much the same, but this second one has way lower GHz (1.3 compared to 3.7). And what is the deal with these different sockets like AM1 or FM2? There are just too many variables to deal with 😁 they really need to get their act together and just make something universal
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
372 messages
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#8 ·
It exists, but you’ll just end up buried in a mountain of garbage, and honestly, that’s not how you want to do this. You spend a week setting everything up and tweaking things, but at least then you're done with the headache.

This isn't even an upgrade; it's a completely different platform (AM1). You should probably grab an AM4 setup instead—it's the best value because those processors have decent integrated graphics if you actually want to play some games. It's the cheapest way to get it right so you aren't constantly messing with it later:
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#9 ·
Alternatively, if you aren't strictly tied down by a tight budget or those specific constraints, Best Buy would carry the AMD kaver A8-Series x4 7600
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#10 ·
AMD A8 5500 Crucial
Crucial 1x4GB RAM
Gigabyte A78M-DS2 1237

$412 + $15 shipping

I guess it might be even better to grab the AMD kaver A8-Series x4 7600 like people suggest. It’s $67 a bit more expensive, but honestly, this setup should fly for you.
Bradley Adams34 Bradley Adams34 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Look, I’m not strictly tied down by a three-liter limit, but since they're right here in my neighborhood, I really don't feel like driving any further just to deal with that. 😁

As for the budget, I’ve set a hard ceiling at around $220, but I refuse to throw money away on hardware that’s just going to sit there gathering dust.

Thanks to everyone for the input; you guys were a huge help. I'll have all my options sorted out by Easter, and then I'm pulling the trigger on the purchase. 🙂
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
372 messages
joined Nov 2022
#12 ·
Hit me up before you pull the trigger, though. Maybe we can find a different way to do this or work out a better price.

If you're paying cash, honestly, sticking to online shops is probably your best bet.
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#13 ·
1 x Intel Ryzen 3 Processor (3.8GHz,4MB,65W,AM4) box
1 x 4GB (1x4GB) Kingston, 1866MHz, CL10, Kingston Fury, HX318C10F
1 x ASUS A88XM-E, FM2+, AMD A88X (Bolton D4), DDR3, 2 slots
1 x LG GH24NS DVD Writer, DVD±RW, 24xDVD±R, 8x DL, 40x CD-R
$564
www.newegg.com

I’d probably just go this route... reuse your old case, power supply, and hard drive.

Since the APU doesn't have its own dedicated VRAM, it pulls from the system RAM. It craves higher frequencies, so this setup hits a decent sweet spot. If you can swing it, honestly, just grab 8GB of RAM right out of the gate.
Bradley Adams34 Bradley Adams34 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2017
#14 ·
Yeah, I’m paying cash. I actually found a cheaper little shop right here in my neighborhood, so that's probably where I'll head once I make up my mind. I don't have any patience for online stores. I'm old school—I want to walk in, grab my gear, and hand the money directly to the guy behind the counter. 😁
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#15 ·
I mean, most of those online retailers actually have physical storefronts too 😁

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