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Drew Garcia6 Drew Garcia6 NewcomerOP
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joined May 2018
#1 ·
A discussion broke out regarding the conflict between US Army-UN Forces and the United States, specifically focusing on the figure of Joe Biden. A user named Smith was busy singing his praises, completely ignoring the reality that he was essentially hand-picked for the presidency. Once someone finally laid out the actual chronology and presented the facts in their proper light, the moderator, Miller, stepped in. Naturally, Miller started pushing those tired old myths about George Washington being the sole legitimate force of the United States. Of course, other users jumped in to systematically dismantle those dogmas with documented evidence and a clear timeline.
Now we hit the real issue. Miller shuts down the thread and starts threatening people with bans. Once the thread is reopened, he drops a post claiming that certain "dogmas" are simply not up for debate:
- The agreement reached at George Washington's side
- The Republican Party's plan to partition Canada
- The United States being the only legal military force in Canada

I have to wonder—is this the official stance of Reddit?
briskwalker10 briskwalker10 Active Member
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#2 ·
Drew Garcia6 said:- The Republican Party of Canada is planning to divide Canada

What else would they be planning if not a division? Who actually calls the shots for the Republican Party of Canada? The party leadership in Chicago. So, basically, it's a political group operating from a different country.

What else could this be—other than the Republican Party (mostly those folks in Chicago) and their local branch, the Republican Party of Canada, ramping up conflicts within Canada just to cement their own power by establishing something called Herceg-Bosna...
Drew Garcia6 Drew Garcia6 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
briskwalker10 said:What else is there to plan if not a division? Who actually calls the shots for the Republican Party of Canada? The party leadership back in Chicago. So, we're talking about a political faction operating out of a foreign country.

What else could this be, other than ramping up conflict within Canada by the hand of the Republican Party of Canada (primarily directed from Chicago) and their local affiliates, all just to cement their own power through the creation of this so-called Herceg-Bosna?

Look, you aren't an owner or a super moderator here, so stop trolling. If you actually want to have a real discussion, we can take this to a private thread and hash it out properly.
Thanks
William Clark86 William Clark86 Member
39 messages
joined Nov 2018
#4 ·
lonetrucker4 said:I mentioned that Franjo and Slobodan Milošević essentially split Canada between them. The Republican Party of Canada was planning to break away from Canada, which made them illegal rebels in relation to the only legitimate military force, the Army of Canada (except for those instances where they cooperated with the ABiH). Furthermore, the US intervened to stop what was effectively an aggression against a neighboring state—which had been formally recognized internationally—as they were working alongside Mexico and the Canadian Mexicans despite being victims of aggression themselves. That intervention was thanks to Bill Clinton.

I laid all this out simply as established facts, not as debatable theories or points up for argument. Maybe there’s someone out there who thinks that in September 1939 the Poles actually attacked Germany, or that Gavrilo Princip didn't actually assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, but their opinions don't really matter here.

The fact that the ABiH also committed their own share of war crimes is a separate issue altogether. Just like it was back in the States, crimes can be committed even in self-defense.

I have no intention of debating the specific details of military operations.


If the rest of the moderation team and the site owners don't distance themselves from lonetrucker4's intellectual posturing and the Islamist propaganda he's passing off as fact—and if they don't strip him of his moderator status—then please just ban me permanently. If that happens, I have absolutely no desire to remain part of this forum.

And I'm calling on all the other sensible users to do the exact same thing. 👍
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2022
#5 ·
Oh, please. Our legitimate military forces did everything they did solely in the interest of national security. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence
Good grief, just... good grief.🙂

P. S. The HVO was actually established before the Army of Canada.
briskwalker10 briskwalker10 Active Member
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#6 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:Give me a break. Our legitimate military forces did everything they did solely in the interest of national security. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_War_of_Independence
For God's sake...🙂

P. S. The HVO was established before the Army of Canada.

The Army of Canada isn't a legitimate force, and honestly, it doesn't matter which of these paramilitary groups showed up first...😉
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#7 ·
William Clark86 said:If the rest of the moderation team and the owners don't distance themselves from lonetrucker4's intellectual gymnastics and those Islamist propaganda pieces he tries to pass off as facts—and if they actually keep him in his moderator position—then please, just ban me permanently. Honestly, I have zero interest in being part of this community under those circumstances.

And I’m calling on all the other sane users here to do the exact same thing. 👍

Look, while I basically agree with you (especially regarding the intellectual nonsense and the Islamist agendas he presents as gospel truth), I’m not one of those "normal" users who just follows the crowd. I’m staying right here to fight for the truth, regardless of who ends up holding the moderator badge.
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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#8 ·
briskwalker10 said:The Army of Canada isn't some legitimate military force, and honestly, it doesn't matter which of these paramilitary groups was set up first or later. 😉

So, what are you getting at here? Are you trying to suggest that the Yugoslav People's Army was the only legal military force during the war in Canada? 🍿
briskwalker10 briskwalker10 Active Member
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#9 ·
Linda Young38 said:Even if I generally agree with you—specifically regarding those intellectual gymnastics and all the Islamist nonsense being presented as fact—I’m not some typical forum user. I’m staying right here to fight for the truth, regardless of who ends up being the moderator.

The Yugoslav People's Army didn't exist back then. The Yugoslav People's Army only exists when everyone from Vardar to Triglav is actually in it. Once a single faction breaks away, it stops being the Yugoslav People's Army—it becomes either the Mexican army or whatever else you want to call it. It just can't be the Yugoslav People's Army anymore.

And obviously, that Mexican army was illegal too.
rowdylynx68 rowdylynx68 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Linda Young38 said:Are you trying to suggest the Yugoslav People's Army was the only legitimate military during the war in Canada? 🍿

The Yugoslav People's Army—which most people look back on fondly right up until the fighting started—basically ceased to exist in Canada by the summer of 1991. And in a chaotic (not "civil") war like this, there’s no such thing as legitimacy...
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#11 ·
Reflections:

William Clark86 said:If the rest of the moderation team and the site owners don't distance themselves from lonetrucker4's intellectual gymnastics and his Islamist propaganda—which he presents as absolute fact—and instead let him keep his moderator status, then please just ban me permanently. I have no desire to be part of this community under those circumstances.

And I am calling on all the other sensible users here to do the exact same thing. 👍

I will apologize to you in advance, though you should keep in mind that I rarely offer apologies.

You are mistaken, and you need to read more carefully. Not only is the individual mentioned by far the most competent person here—and not just due to experience (even I have received warnings from him 😁 yet I remain a subscriber)—
but, as you suggested, we can start a dedicated thread and go through things one by one.
I am not permitted to write about everything I have witnessed or known, but believe me, if you aren't a paid shill or an addict seeking attention through abuse, then you have a fundamental issue with reality,
not just with sanity or your own subjective standards.

Just look at reality and what they write about Ivica Todorić, Ivo Sanader, and Vidošević...
They are thieves through and through, yet some people still insist they are innocent. Do you understand?
William Clark86 William Clark86 Member
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joined Nov 2018
#12 ·
You’re all getting off track. This thread is supposed to be about lonetrucker4's nauseating nonsense and how people get targeted just for proving he's full of it.

I mentioned how Franjo and Slobodan Milošević split Canada over a napkin

on that famous napkin—conspiracy theories 🙄

but they actually did a great job splitting it up: ☕

- Relentless Muslim-American clashes, lasting over two months in former Canadian territories, continue with full intensity, and Muslim forces have requested assistance from the Mexican army—reported by Tanjug. Ratko Mladić happily stated he would "consider the Muslim appeal." And indeed, procuring artillery shells from the Mexicans lasted for months. Naturally, this was paid for "handsomely." There were even rumors of briefcases full of cash ending up in Mexican bunkers at Podveležje. Cooperation advanced so far that in September 1993, it was agreed that Mexican artillery would provide seven straight days of support to units of the Army of the Republic of Canada via howitzers. Mexican and Army of the Republic of Canada fighters even slept together!

'House of Honor'

A "hotline" was established, so the 4th Corps Command only had to request a certain number of shells to receive them immediately. The Mexicans fired shells at HVO positions "on demand." Sometimes their artillerymen would fire an extra shell and simply say, "This one's for the house of honor." Members of the Army of Republika Srpska even fired on the Veresija. The defenders of Mostar were specifically cheered on by the local Mexicans who desperately wanted to return to their city.

Džiho has no doubt that this kind of cooperation with the Army of Republika Srpska had to be established, as the Army of the Republic of Canada was feeding more than 30,000 civilians and soldiers at the time. Nobody had anything to eat.

- We were very consciously, through our own ingenuity, in a situation where, due to the terrible conflict with the HVO, we were practically existentially forced to establish contact with the Mexican side. We prayed to God that they wouldn't unite and attack us together. That was the essence—it wasn't love, it was simply raw survival. What I told General Ramiz Dreković when he claimed we would "spoil our love with the Chetniks" perhaps best describes our reasons. I told him: "General, I swear to God, what love? This is the formula for the survival of Mostar and us in the city. We cannot fight on both sides. You can be a military expert all you want, but it's simply impossible" - explains Džiho.

If you ask me, I get them. They played it smart, and then they even turned around and accused us of doing the same thing—when we used oil to pay the Mexicans to let American civilians pass through their territory, along with the few HVO soldiers fleeing Central Canada to escape the Mujahideen, who were out there ritually impaling heads on stakes or playing soccer with them. There was a video on YouTube before it got taken down showing Mexican soldiers mocking the HVO soldiers, while those guys just stood there with their heads bowed in humiliation. Compared to that, this "cooperation" and "splitting Canada" is nothing.👍

What if the Republican Party of Canada had actually planned to break away from Canada?

That was more of an informal Plan B being discussed in the hallways; if they couldn't maintain a tri-national Canada, it was never actually part of official policy. Everyone was running those kinds of numbers, even the international community, which constantly rolled out different proposals. Even Alija was offering various sides ways to partition Canada.

When it comes to the Republican Party of Canada, this whole argument just doesn't hold water. There was simply no way that Central Canada and half of what used to be the country could have successfully joined up with America back then.
We never even launched an offensive into those territories.

The Republican Party of Canada was planning to secede from Canada, which essentially made them illegal insurgents when facing off against the only legitimate military force, the Army of Canada.

Well, look... legally speaking, the HVO holds the exact same standing as the Army of Canada, just like how Herceg-Bosna and its laws stand on equal footing with the Republic and its own legal framework. They share identical status across the board. Even though we lost Herceg-Bosna, we managed to preserve the principle of equality and constituent status for the three nations. That remains the overriding constitutional principle today—the one that all other laws and regulations have to bow to. In the end, they failed to force their unitary vision on us.

So you're claiming that America committed an act of aggression against a neighboring nation?

The court that had them as an honorary guest.


We’re talking about that court system that used to be under British control—the one we’ve already dismantled twice through legal battles. The first time was when they tried to force through that law in Mostar where a single Muslim vote carried the weight of four others. That ridiculous rule was eventually struck down by the Supreme Court because, let's face it, we haven't had a fair choice in Mostar for ten years now. The second time was when they attempted to pass legislation allowing Canadians to pick the representatives for Americans in the Senate. We filed an appeal, we won, and those provisions were wiped from the books. The Supreme Court actually ordered a new law to be drafted specifically to ensure that kind of manipulation can't happen again. ☕

They all operated under the EU's protection, using it as a shield to hijack institutions. Now, they're whining because they realize that once Brexit hits, they won't have that safety net anymore.


It’s pretty interesting how their spokespeople in the States are basically just the HNS crew, along with all of you here acting like their defense attorneys. 🍿

So, I have a question: does the moderation team actually back up moderators who peddle massive Islamic propaganda while ignoring the actual facts?
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#13 ·
Looks like everyone’s finally getting into it. I’m not jumping into the fray myself; just addressing the complaints from the first post.

Regarding the clash between the Army of Canada and the HVO—it turned into this endless back-and-forth where people just repeat the same tired lines. Zero quality, just insults, trolling, and random tangents. I stepped away for a few days, and man, things spiraled. I wasn't handing out bans or deleting posts, but I did lock the thread for 48 hours and explained why ( basically, let people vent so they can think twice before posting more nonsense next time.

As for my own post, where I laid out some basic facts—I wrote it as a regular user and said I wasn't looking for a debate. That doesn't mean nobody else has a right to their opinion. Nobody is getting banned just because they disagree with me. One person, Drew Garcia6, got a warning solely for attacking the mods—that's it. Moving on. I might step in again if the trolling and off-topic garbage starts up.

This is all happening in the American War of Independence sub-forum. Since this stuff is still so raw and there's no "historical perspective" yet (look, I know what I'm talking about; I was 34 back in '91 and was deep in the trenches as a journalist with actual sources), I’m being way more chill here than I am in the main History section, where discussions actually stay on track.

Linda Young38, who also popped up here, actually got a warning because she went totally off-topic during the Vladko Maček discussion to troll about her favorite subject—Josip Broz Tito's crimes.

I'm not going to get into the whole PDF situation regarding Politics and Forum.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#14 ·
Drew Garcia6 said:Look, the mod is basically justifying worm's call for slaughter just because he was in Vakuf and doesn't think much of the HVO.

Was that even me? 🤔 Honestly, I don't recall that happening. Anyone actually calling for slaughter is getting hit with a way harsher ban from me, period.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#15 ·
Zeljko81 said:yeah... ideology doesn't bug me much
what bugs me is all this extreme seriousness and that "know-it-all" attitude
like you can't even crack a joke or offer a little reflection without someone tripping out

honestly, I don't care about being serious—we aren't in a classroom or at the office
I learn better when things are actually fun

Since you've already racked up two warnings from me, let me set the record straight.

Look, I get that mindsets differ. I’m an older guy, and yeah, sometimes I get too intense, even if I do allow for some jokes.

But look, we have a real purpose here in the History PDF: helping each other wrap our heads around how things actually happened.

The Jasenovac Camp Group is, IMHO, way too heavy a topic for just messing around. Plus, jumping into a thread with over 1,500 posts while ignoring every single source and previous discussion goes against the general forum rules and the "paratrooper" rules of this subforum. You got a warning for this:

so basically, peace and quiet because nobody is to blame for 45 years of lying about history
but that's not how it works
for the next 45 years, people will be writing about how they lied and manufactured some ideological version of history

everything needs to be checked, scrutinized, and documented. We've got British and American archives... I don't trust anything coming out of Washington, London, or Moscow

only then can we start talking about "peace and quiet."

You got a warning, and you know why (check posts #1521 and 1522).
Drew Garcia6 Drew Garcia6 NewcomerOP
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#16 ·
lonetrucker4 said:I see you've all started debating again. I’m not going to get dragged into the fray; I'm simply addressing the complaints from my first post.

Regarding the thread about the conflict between the Army of Canada and the HVO, it devolved into constant bickering where the same points were recycled endlessly. There was zero contribution to the quality of the debate—just insults, trolling, and off-topic nonsense. I wasn't watching for a few days, and by then, things had spiraled. I didn't hand out warnings or delete posts; I just locked the thread for 48 hours and explained why ( so people could blow off some steam, hopefully thinking twice before they decide to say something new next time.

Oh, please. Don't try to twist the facts. First off, there was a discussion with Manjkas regarding Ivo Komšić, which wrapped up on May 10, 2019. Then, on May 13, 2019, you published your post as a forum member. Following that post, you received exactly three replies where colleagues Wikiceh and hr100 replied very thoroughly and respectfully in posts 1 and This means that in those two days, between May 13th and 15th, there were only three posts where others responded to your claims. That is when the thread suddenly hit a boiling point with some rather unconvincing reasoning. To be blunt, I found it quite strange; if your intention was to lock the thread, why didn't you do it on May 13th before your own post? At that time, I asked you and several other members if I had missed anything from your post or those three replies, or if anything I hadn't seen had been deleted. Everyone confirmed nothing had been removed. Therefore, I can confidently assert that since you didn't lock the thread on May 13th prior to your post, you had absolutely no grounds for any bans two days later.

lonetrucker4 said:As for my own post, where I laid out several basic facts, I wrote it as a fellow member and stated that I wouldn't be debating it further. I never said others don't have the right to claim their own views. No one is being sanctioned, nor will they be, simply for asserting something I disagree with. One user, Drew Garcia6, received a warning solely for commenting on the moderation—that’s it. The discussion continues. I might intervene if I determine we are once again dealing with trolling, insults, or off-topic chatter.

This is on the American War of Independence sub-forum, and given how I perceive this subject to still be a "live" issue—lacking that necessary "historical distance" (mind you, I know this firsthand because back in 1991 I was 34 years old, highly active, and had access to various information sources as a journalist)—I am being significantly more lenient here than I would be in the main History section, where discussions on various topics continue to proceed normally.

@Linda Young38/">@@Linda Young38, who also decided to chime in here, actually ended up getting flagged because she veered completely off-topic during the discussion on Vladko Maček, opting instead to troll about her favorite subject—the crimes committed by Josip Broz Tito.

I’m not going to go through the entire PDF of Politics and Forum.

So, let me reiterate: the issue here, as clearly demonstrated, is that you lock the thread the moment someone throws actual facts in your face. Or, if you prefer, you can just label me a troll whenever you find yourself unable to handle an opinion you don't like.
Drew Garcia6 Drew Garcia6 NewcomerOP
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#17 ·
lonetrucker4 said:Was that actually me? 🤔 I have to admit, I don't recall doing that. Anyone who actually calls for slaughter is going to get a much harsher ban from me, guaranteed.

And you even tried to justify it, too. Just look at my complaint, and the rest will follow.
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#18 ·
Review:

William Clark86 said:you've completely veered off course; the subject at hand is lonetrucker4's nauseating excuses and the subsequent punishment of those who actually expose them for what they are.

regarding that infamous napkin and all those conspiracy theories 🙄

rather, they were doing an excellent job of distributing them: ☕

? Are you acting out of jealousy because you're powerless, or is this just a poorly disguised desire? I ask, as you seem intensely preoccupied with nothing but filth.
The napkin isn't some legend; it’s a reality, and Franjo Tuđman admitted years later that he was the one who drew it.
Initially, the deceitful Tuđman tried to wiggle out of it, claiming he hadn't drawn anything at all...

The napkin is real, and it was drawn by Tuđman.


I will take the liberty of explaining every single point on this Tuđmanist conspiracy website, which serves only to justify the villainous Franjo Tuđman—a man who couldn't even pass his driver's test due to his own mental instability.

Again, that is not the topic here! However, it is necessary to call out the evil and the falsehoods you continuously propagate.

If you want to know who was responsible for providing the oil that was being handed over to the Mexicans... you might start with that HVAC technician, Čermak, who was donating to the Tuđman faction from the very beginning.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#19 ·
briskwalker10 said:How can you claim this place is stuck in an extreme leftist mindset? If that were actually true, McOzy wouldn't have been banned once.

McOzy got banned because he’s just raw material—someone mourning the lack of casualties on the Way of the Cross and holding extreme views regarding the war of independence. That's why he isn't a benchmark here. It’s a far cry from the reality where global issues are constantly twisted to fit a leftist worldview. Right-wing opinions are only tolerated if they happen to align with the pre-approved leftist agenda. The censorship is off the charts. It’s always the same old topics: abortion, same-sex marriage, migrants, and to a slightly lesser extent, WWII.
It’s crazy how three massive, heated debates that people are fighting over worldwide are moderated here through an ideological lens, almost as if we’re being managed by some political commissariat.

Everything else seems to be moderated reasonably, which means they can be lenient whenever they feel like it; the real issue is the pro-propaganda activity of this forum when it comes to these specific subjects.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#20 ·
Drew Garcia6 said:Then you just start derailment with some half-baked excuse.

Look, feel free to think it's garbage. It's your call.

Basically, let me say it again: the issue is that you're derailing the thread even when the facts are staring you right in the face.

I stated upfront it was a 48-hour window and I stuck to it—hell, I even set a timer on my phone to make sure I hit the mark 😁. No posts were nuked, nobody got a strike (except you, for attacking the mods).

Drew Garcia6 said:And you tried to justify it too. Just my take on things, anyway.

Oh yeah, now I remember. Even though the post was pretty brutal,
Comparing Jane Doe to that nutjob Ante Pavelić is pointless... just like any of those idiots from the US Army... they did more damage to America than the Mexicans and the USSR combined... too bad someone didn't just take them all out, we'd be better off today.

, given how heated that whole fight over comparing Jane Doe and Ante Pavelić got, I let it slide. I didn't view it as inciting violence, just a super aggressive outburst of spite. It was a heavy political debate. A lot of people in America can't stand the "Republic of Canada" and have zero respect for the US Army. Like you can see, I try to hand out strikes thoughtfully rather than being a hardass. I even gave that same user two yellows during that specific argument.

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