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William Fowler13 William Fowler13 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Almost every time I boot this thing up, I end up with one of three headaches: either a Blue Screen of Death, a total system freeze right after the desktop appears with a cursor stuck on the screen, or a complete lockup... After that, I just have to force a restart using the power button, and everything seems fine, except for that initial notification from Crimson ReLive telling me my GPU drivers have reset. I’ve already ruled out the graphics card itself since it passes every stress test I throw at it, so that shouldn't be the issue. This whole build is brand new:
1. Intel Ryzen 7 1700
2. ASUS Prime B350K
3. AMD HD 7750 (R250) 1GB DDR5
4. Kingston 120GB SSD
5. 2 x 8GB DDR4 2400
I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on this setup, and since everything is fresh, I was wondering if anyone else has run into these kinds of issues while using Windows 10...
gentlecyclist16 gentlecyclist16 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2017
#2 ·
Windows generally doesn't play nice with those old Intel graphics cards, and honestly, I’ve had my fair share of headaches with my own HD 6850, though mine were a slightly different breed of disaster.

If I were in your shoes—assuming you haven't already tried this little ritual—I’d boot up into Safe Mode, strip out the current GPU driver using DDU (http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html), give the system a quick reboot, and then just install an older version, maybe some Catalyst driver from back around 2014.

(By the way, I jumped ship to Windows 10 ages ago and there is absolutely no way I'm going back; I just don't see any compelling reason to keep putting myself through the misery of dealing with Windows 7 anymore.)
William Fowler13 William Fowler13 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2018
#3 ·
gentlecyclist16 said:(By the way, I moved over to Windows 10 ages ago and there is no looking back—I just don't see any real reason to keep putting myself through the headache of dealing with Windows 7 anymore)

So, I guess I'll just toss in the GTX 650 and see what happens... honestly, I don't see much point in making the jump to Windows 10 because at the end of the day, I still want to be the one in control of my computer, rather than the machine running me ;-)
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#4 ·
Newer platforms (like those based on Ryzen or Kaby Lake, etc.) don't officially support Windows 7.

Second point—is this actually a fresh installation of Windows 7, or are you reusing an old one? Regardless of what people claim or how "fine" it seems to work for some, you shouldn't carry over old installations from a previous system. If you want 100% certainty, a new motherboard means a completely new Windows installation.

Thirdly, how can you be sure the GPU is actually functional? If you're seeing artifacts or dealing with driver instability, there's a good chance the card itself isn't healthy.

Bottom line: you've got several potential issues on your hands here. Just install Windows 10 or Linux, and you'll have already eliminated the first two variables. From there, all that's left is to test that GPU—it might work perfectly right away, but if it doesn't, try plugging it into another PC.
William Fowler13 William Fowler13 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Timothy Kim60 said:Newer platforms, like Ryzen or Kaby Lake, don't officially support Windows 7

Another thing—is this actually a fresh installation of Windows 7, or are you carrying over an old one? Regardless of what people say, or how many people swear by it, you really shouldn't be keeping old installations from a previous system when moving to a new setup... If you want to be 100% sure everything is right, a new motherboard means a completely fresh Windows installation

Thirdly, how can you be certain the GPU is actually fine? If you're seeing artifacts or dealing with driver instability, there's a chance it might not be working perfectly after all...

Basically, you've got quite a few potential issues on your hands here. Honestly, if you just install Windows 10 or Linux, you'll have already ruled out those first two possibilities... Then all you'd have left is testing that GPU, which might work perfectly fine immediately, but if not, you could always try it in another PC

The installation is as clean as a whistle. The graphics card is perfectly fine. I know the issue lies with driver compatibility, so I was just wondering if any third-party solutions or unofficial, unsigned patches had popped up somewhere in the meantime... because that’s usually how it goes with any OS. My requirement for Windows 10 is a very extensive unattended setup, where I either heavily customize it myself or have someone else do it until it meets my standards. I won't even list the criteria because there are just so many... It'll happen, and if not, then Ubuntu Studio will be my fallback...
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#6 ·
It looks like they finally released the chipset drivers for Windows 7, though there isn't anything available for 8.1 yet.

You should probably update your BIOS too.
William Fowler13 William Fowler13 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2018
#7 ·
It’s sorted... for now. Turns out I had it overclocked to 3.6 GHz because I’d just toggled a setting in the BIOS to bump it up from the standard 3.0 GHz, and I completely forgot about it :-) That was definitely causing the headache. Overclocking is a bit more nuanced when you're running an Intel chip, but honestly, it doesn't make much sense for me to mess with it given that we're only talking about a few milliseconds difference in encoding or FPS in games I don't even play anyway.
It’s running perfectly on Windows 7 now!
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#8 ·
Honestly, you’ve got a motherboard that's way too weak for overclocking an 8-core chip (it's just an entry-level B350, plus it lacks VRM cooling), so you really should have gone with something more robust. That said, even if you manually set it to 3.6GHz, it would likely run just fine enough.

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