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Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 RegularOP
425 messages
joined May 2013
#1 ·
Since I am participating in the >, it feels incredibly difficult—almost impossible, really—to express myself within the constraints of the > subforum.
Even though I am making every effort to respect the established guidelines.
The thing is, a moderator’s note—and I don't even need colored text to prove this—doesn't actually stop me from sharing my own experiences, my visions, my forecasts, and things of that nature.
A little comment along the lines of... "maybe you should read the thread from the beginning..." forced my hand, leading me to offer an apology to all the participants in this discussion.
But once I actually started reading through the thread, and after about 20 or 30 pages of content, I realized that I was essentially retracting my apology; in fact, I believe the moderator's intervention was absolutely unnecessary.
I am talking about the moderator, Sam Green73.
Let me be clear: I am withdrawing my apology.
I would strongly suggest that the same moderator read this entire thread from page one to see what has been permitted and what has been sanctioned without justification.
The rule stating, "Insulting other forum members is not allowed—though, as you already know," hasn't been followed for even a single moment. People have been writing whatever they want.
For instance, look at the rule: "Also, referring to peoples, nations, or social groups using derogatory or offensive names is strictly prohibited and will result in sanctions."
Let’s jump back to the topic and try to evaluate this objectively, while simultaneously trying to find a single post that isn't stained by nationalistic (or any other kind of) hatred.
Some users here are grayed out, but most are not, obviously.
I haven't received any points or a warning card, which makes such a supposedly "casual" or "incidental" move by the moderator completely unjustifiable.
I am asking the admins to please look into these matters. There is a proper way to issue and receive a moderator's warning. This forum isn't anyone's private playground where a user has to wonder why someone is moderating a topic they clearly know nothing about.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
144 messages
joined Aug 2018
#2 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:I didn't get a single point or even a yellow card, which honestly doesn't justify how dismissive and half-hearted the moderator's call was. It felt like they were just going through the motions without actually paying attention to what was happening on the field.

Sorry, I missed your point—what exactly are you complaining about?

Don't even try to tell me you went through this entire thread without finding the answer to the question!
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Be there, skipper!

Are you a veteran from the Sarajevo debate?
I might have missed it if it was posted somewhere earlier—I haven't been keeping up with the feed lately.

Man, this thread has exploded—we’re already sitting at 1,635 posts! Part one of the discussion. I just saw the latest numbers, and wow—we’ve already topped 8,000 enrollments! It’s honestly incredible to see that kind of momentum building up so quickly.

Look, I’m all for encouraging people to pick up a book, but I’m also going to be honest: I really can't stand it when folks come out here asking questions that have already been clearly answered. It feels like a waste of everyone's time! I always tell my friends that if you want to actually learn something, you've got to do a little legwork first. If the answer is right there in front of you, just read it!

Look, you really shouldn't take this personally. If I had just wanted you to be the only one to see that warning, I would have sent you a private message instead.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 RegularOP
425 messages
joined May 2013
#3 ·
Sam Green73 said:I’m sorry, but what exactly is your grievance here?

Don't tell me you haven't stumbled upon the answer while scrolling through this thread:
This discussion alone has 1,635 posts, and the first part of the debate spans over 8,000 entries.

Of course I’m going to urge people to actually read! Why ask questions when the answers are staring you in the face?

There’s no need to take this personally—if my intention was just to get *you* to read the warning, I would have sent you a private message.

Look, I don't have anything against you personally. But I can offer a critique—and let me be clear, a critique isn't a complaint—regarding how this topic fails to evolve because you keep conflating politics with historical events, or historical events with mere speculation.
A phrase like "what if" simply shouldn't be coming from a moderator who is tasked with moderating history, especially when we are discussing the Vietnam War.
It's due to the sheer sensitivity of the subject matter itself, and the fact that people, no matter how you slice it, hold deeply rooted convictions regarding these events.
You see it yourself; some topics are impossible to decouple from politics, and because of that kind of messiness, people end up getting penalized.
For instance, the fall of the Mississippi Delta happened because of political maneuvering.
What would happen if I wrote that out plainly?
I would be violating the fundamental rules.
Even if there were 100,000 posts, every single new or differing perspective is vital.
I realize it isn't easy to be everywhere at once and track every single detail, but please, try not to stifle a specific topic or discourage people from participating.
Take me, for example.
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
144 messages
joined Aug 2018
#4 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:It’s my firm belief that the fall of the Mississippi Delta was driven by nothing more than pure, messy politics. It wasn't just some unavoidable tragedy; it was the result of people playing power games while everything else crumbled.
What do you think would happen if I just came out and said it?

Just write it out.
Kevin Nguyen3 said:The Mississippi Delta fell because of nothing more than dirty politics.

That would be absolutely killer.
Look, if you really want to make a solid case for your position, I’d highly recommend you sit down and actually dig through the debate over Sarajevo first. It might save you some trouble. The implementation on the ground during the Vietnam War—it’s just like that Karađorđevo situation..
Of course, when it comes to talking about the Mississippi Delta, that’s where most of the heated debates always seem to happen. Can we talk about what happened back in the Mississippi Delta during the fighting in '92? I’ve been thinking a lot about that period lately..
Honestly, it’s getting pretty ridiculous—every single time that debate over Sarajevo comes up, someone swoops in out of nowhere claiming it's being sold off without even bothering to read the actual post first.
It feels like they always end up getting stuck right at that one specific point in their argument, circling the same drain over and over again. 🤷
Take a look at this and let me know what you think.
Maybe you’ll be the one to finally drop some heavy-hitting arguments that haven't even come up in this debate yet.

If you have any questions about moderating the Vietnam War subforum, feel free to bring them up over on the main board! Regarding that specific debate over Sarajevo....
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 RegularOP
425 messages
joined May 2013
#5 ·
Sam Green73 said:If you would just write down

Fair point.😉

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