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Participants briskeagle11Kimberly Gomez34wiredotter14darkowl72amberhawk5Adam Diaz67
briskeagle11 briskeagle11 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Hey everyone,

I’ve had some pretty great experiences following advice from folks on this forum before (X2), so I figured there was no harm in reaching out for some guidance again, especially since this particular area is somewhat outside my wheelhouse.

So, I’m looking for some kind souls to toss some recommendations my way for a build intended exclusively for 3D modeling software. The core requirements are basically a decent processor, plenty of RAM, and a beefy graphics card. In theory, the specs aren't all that different from what you'd want in a gaming rig, but I’d love to hear what you all suggest for this specific workflow.

To keep things moving, here’s the rough list of components I’m looking to put together:

16 GB RAM
A graphics card with at least 4GB VRAM
An Intel Core i5 processor
A 1TB Seagate Barracuda hard drive (though it would be ideal to have a separate SSD just for the OS)

In terms of the case, I’d prefer something as compact as possible because space is a bit tight where I am, though I realize that a powerful graphics card doesn't leave me much room to maneuver in that regard.

Also, if anyone has a good 24" monitor they’d recommend, please let me know.

My budget is hovering around $1.75; I heard that’s about what it takes to pull off this kind of setup, though I’m not entirely certain, so I could potentially stretch it a bit. That said, I’d really prefer to spend as little as possible, so please don't feel obligated to hit the maximum limit if it isn't necessary. 🤣

Thanks a ton in advance!
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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#2 ·
That’s just not doable for $1667 if you're expecting the monitor to be included in the price.

Here is the configuration alone (excluding the power supply)

1 x Intel Core i5-6400 (2.7GHz, 6MB, LGA1151) box
1 x MSI H110M PRO-D (S1151, DDR4, USB3.1, SATA III, DVI, Audio, LAN) mATX Retail
2 x Kingston 8GB 2133MHz DDR4 Non-ECC CL15 DIMM 1Rx8
1 x HDD Seagate Barracuda 1TB, 64MB, 7200rpm, High-Performance
1 x Gigabyte RX460 WF2 OC, 4GB GDDR5, HDMI, DVI
1 x Zalman T1 PLUS, mATX, USB3.0 black
1 x Fortron Hexa+ 400W, 80+
1 x SSD AMD Radeon R3 SATAIII 120GB , 2.5” 7mm, SATA 6 Gbit/s

Total: $1646 it's all inclusive, with free assembly and shipping

By the way, what kind of software are we talking about? I might actually prefer the 2GB version of this graphics card paired with a 240GB SSD instead.
briskeagle11 briskeagle11 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Hey Kimberly Gomez34, thanks a ton for the help here.

I’m not entirely sure which specific software they're running—all I know is it involves some 3D modeling, though honestly, this rig isn't being built primarily for that kind of heavy lifting 🙂)

In any case, I assume a 4GB graphics card is the way to go. Why would you suggest going with the 2GB version? Is that just to keep the price down, or do you think it makes more sense to prioritize a larger capacity SSD instead? I've been weighing whether it might be better to just grab one beefier SSD rather than trying to balance a combination of an HDD and an SSD.

Thanks again, regardless.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#4 ·
Because maybe the VRAM isn't even a factor here... we really need more specifics to figure out the actual requirements.
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
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joined Oct 2015
#5 ·
You really need to figure out which software you're actually running first. You've got to check which GPUs are supported and which ones they actually recommend, because picking the wrong card can absolutely tank your entire system's performance.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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#6 ·
Since there isn't much of a performance gap between the 2GB and 4GB models in most scenarios, you could easily squeeze in a cheaper 240GB SSD alongside the HDD instead.

It’s likely they're running SolidWorks, CATIA, or something similar. Honestly, the 460 is the obvious choice for that budget for several reasons: it fits the price point perfectly, those specific programs tend to play nicer with AMD Graphics (assuming that's what we're looking at), and Nvidia's budget options—like the 750ti or the GTX 950—don't even offer a 4GB version, making their 2GB cards a poor value for money.

If you ditch the HDD and that smaller SSD, you could fit this inside.
briskeagle11 briskeagle11 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
Timothy Kim60 said:Since there isn't much of a performance gap between the 2GB and 4GB models in most scenarios, they could probably squeeze in a cheaper 240GB SSD alongside the HDD.

It’s likely they're running SolidWorks, CATIA, or something along those lines. Honestly, the 460 is the obvious call for that budget for a few reasons—it fits the price point perfectly, those specific programs tend to play nicer with AMD Graphics (assuming that's what they're looking at), and if you look at Nvidia's options, both the cheaper and pricier alternatives like the 750ti or the GTX 950 don't come in 4GB versions, making the 2GB variants a bit of a bad value.

If they ditch the HDD and that smaller SSD—this goes inside instead.

Thanks so much to everyone again, 👍 I think I'll go with the option featuring the beefier SSD.

Best,
amberhawk5 amberhawk5 Newcomer
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#8 ·
I honestly can't get behind that idea. Look, I actually do this for a living, so I know what I'm talking about here... A smaller SSD is going to be more than enough to handle all the programs you want to throw at it. At the end of the day, that's just your system drive, and what really matters—like, what's absolutely vital—is which graphics card you're running. If you're stuck deciding, just go check out the GPU PassMark site and grab the most powerful one you can afford because that, along with your RAM, is where the real heavy lifting happens. Actually, if you have the budget, I’d highly suggest aiming for 24 GB of RAM too.

...and don't even think about getting rid of your HDD no matter what anyone tells you, those storage models are massive and an SSD would be completely maxed out in a single day...
darkowl72 darkowl72 Regular
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#9 ·
I'm with amberhawk5 on this one. 👍

If your software supports hardware acceleration via CUDA cores, then your GPU choice and its VRAM are massive dealbreakers. You can scrape by loading models from a hard drive, and having plenty of RAM helps ensure you aren't constantly hitting the disk for scratch files, but if you actually care about processing speed—you know, the actual math part—that’s what really matters. As for RAM? Honestly, just get as much as you can afford.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#10 ·
That’s the catch—it’s a massive hurdle for his budget. If he wants an Intel Core i5-6400, a 4GB GPU, an SSD, and 24GB of RAM, he just can't squeeze all that into a system with only four RAM slots without hitting a wall. You have to make compromises somewhere.

I'm guessing the buyer is coming from a pretty subpar rig, so even this setup will feel like a massive leap forward.
amberhawk5 amberhawk5 Newcomer
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#11 ·
I mean, it’s totally doable... I’ve actually been running a similar setup myself since back in 2011, using an ASUS Motherboard that went for about $140 at the time. And look, if you really want to stretch things at the end, you can always grab those 16GB sticks for two slots, though honestly... I'd much rather sink that extra cash into a better motherboard instead.
It’s obvious the budget is tight, but you just can't justify skipping out on an SSD when it's supposed to be 20% of your total spend, especially if you're going for a larger drive and ditching the old hard drives entirely. That whole approach is just complete nonsense...
amberhawk5 amberhawk5 Newcomer
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#12 ·
If you happen to be down in Washington, D.C., or somewhere relatively close to St. Louis, there’s this one online shop selling all kinds of new components that are roughly 30% cheaper than what you'd find walking into a physical store... For instance, an EVGA Nvidia GTX 960 is sitting at about $220, or you can snag 16 GB of HyperX DDR3 RAM (2*8) for around $80, stuff like that... I don't know how the pricing looks for the rest of you across America, but where I am, the retail shops are charging way too much... Shoot me a DM if you want more details.
(By the way, this isn't some pitch or anything, I'm just genuinely stoked with them and wanted to pass the luck along 😁)
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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joined Aug 2007
#13 ·
amberhawk5 said:If you're in Washington, D.C. or somewhere near St. Louis, there's this online shop with new parts that's about 30% cheaper than physical stores. For example, an EVGA Nvidia GTX 960 is $200, 16GB HyperX DDR3 RAM (2*8) is $75, etc. I don't know how it is for you guys in America, but local retail prices here are way higher. DM me if you need details.
(Not an ad, just genuinely happy with them and wanted to share the love 😁)

http://www.nabava.net/radna-memorija...0?&q=16gb+ddr3

A GTX 960 for $200 isn't exactly a steal. You're better off shelling out another $30 for an RX 470 4GB.
(Around here, the GTX 960 goes for $200-$220) R9 380s are in that same ballpark.
Now tell me, is it worth ordering something with sketchy warranty coverage just to save $5, even if shipping is free?

P.S.
An SSD makes a massive difference in performance; spending 20% of your budget on one is smart. The real question is whether someone actually needs an HDD or not—if they do need 1TB, then grab an HDD.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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#14 ·
http://www.nabava.net/radna-memorija...7,70552,693975
http://www.nabava.net/radna-memorija...,482396,693975

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amberhawk5 amberhawk5 Newcomer
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#15 ·
wiredotter14 said:http://www.amazon.com/search?q=16gb+ddr3

Paying $200 for a GTX 960 isn't exactly a steal, honestly... you might be better off stretching yourself just another $30 to grab an RX 470 4GB
(Around here, a GTX 960 runs about $200-$220) and the R9 380 is hovering in that same range.
So, tell me, is it actually worth ordering something with a questionable warranty just to save five bucks, even if the shipping is free?

P.S.
An SSD makes a massive difference in performance, so putting 20% of your budget toward one is totally fine... the real question is whether someone even needs an HDD at all, though if they really need 1TB, they should just go with an HDD

In my situation, I was only looking at Nvidia because of specific software requirements... picking a card wasn't even much of a debate for me since the prices were basically identical anyway. By the way, you get a warranty, it’s not some shady operation.
I agree on the SSD, but when you're talking about a workstation for modeling, RAM and the graphics card are insanely more important... And as for HDDs... has anyone here actually modeled anything before and do you have any idea how massive those files can get?
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
433 messages
joined Aug 2007
#16 ·
amberhawk5 said:In my case, I wasn't even looking at anything besides Nvidia because of specific software requirements. Choosing a card isn't really a debate for me—it's just about finding the right price point. Besides, you get a warranty; it’s not some shady operation.
I'm with you on the SSD, but if we're talking about a workstation for modeling, RAM and the GPU are way more critical. And regarding HD storage... has anyone here actually modeled anything? Do you have any idea how massive those files get?

Who actually handles the warranty? Where do you even take the hardware if it dies?
As for the price, it's basically the same as it is here. Maybe it's $5 cheaper like I mentioned, but I'm guessing shipping from St. Louis to Washington, D.C. won't be free either.

It all depends on what you're modeling. For certain tasks, you don't even need a powerhouse GPU.
Adam Diaz67 Adam Diaz67 Active Member
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#17 ·
So, I've done some modeling myself. Quite a bit, actually—both at my old office job and on freelance gigs. I definitely agree that an HDD is a must; just having an SSD won't be enough. But there’s another thing to consider here. What kind of modeling are we talking about? Like, what's the niche—architecture, civil engineering, or mechanical? Are we looking at animated sequences or just static 3D models? Also, looking at the budget, I'm guessing the user might be a student at a technical university, maybe studying architecture or mechanical engineering. If that's the case, they probably won't be tackling super complex 3D animations just yet. It would really help if the OP could clarify what the future owner actually does. Once we know the specific field, we can figure out which software will be used, and then we can build the configuration around that.
amberhawk5 amberhawk5 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Joe, look, five bucks isn't some massive dealbreaker, obviously... but I really hate feeling like a broken record here, so maybe just give what was already said a second look. Back home, that specific graphics card was going for about $325 at the time we're talking about. That’s actually a pretty significant gap, don't you think?
I mean, sure, you don't need a high-end workstation GPU for everything, but if you're actually trying to do stuff like GPU rendering, you can't even get the software to run without hitting at least 2000 PassMark points, let alone anything less than that...
Grimko, you're spot on with all that, it's just that it feels to me like the OP completely veered off track and now we're all just sitting here spinning our wheels... 😵

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