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Participants John Ramirez25Alexander Diaz4casualorca5Kate Chase59Richard Fox62Joshua Wilson17Rachel Allen21Bryan Murphy3vividbear12placidtinker39slysurfer14mellowtruckerJeremy Cruz46Thomas Perez5Harold Phillips54wearytrucker22Ashley Miller3Adam Myers4
Thomas Perez5 Thomas Perez5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2022
#41 ·
Thanks, Kate Chase59! The old guy just keeps three or four acres of land from being overtaken by weeds; it’s not about the money. You can't make a profit on such tiny plots given what raw materials cost for the crops he grows—mostly corn, oats, and potatoes. He just gets a few government subsidies and the ability to buy off-road diesel.
Kate Chase59 Kate Chase59 Member
36 messages
joined Mar 2023
#42 ·
Is the old guy retired, or is he still out there grinding somewhere?
Harold Phillips54 Harold Phillips54 Member
33 messages
joined Apr 2020
#43 ·
Thomas Perez5 said:My dad runs a family farm. Since he doesn't have an email address, I gave them mine. I just got this notification: any family farms registered in the Family Farm Registry are required to be members of the Chamber, which means paying membership fees.
Are all family farms automatically listed in that registry, and how can I check? Also, am I actually on the hook for this fee?

He doesn't need to pay a thing; just ignore the notification.
It’s most likely a fake notice and probably some kind of online scam.
I've been running my own small family farm since back when this specific legal designation was first established here in the States (I'm retired now, but because I've been a bit lazy, I haven't officially closed the business yet—you actually reminded me that I should get around to doing that this week). My farm is fully registered in the system and in the database for independent product sellers—like people selling at local farmers' markets and such—and I have never once had to pay any kind of membership dues.
Honestly, I haven't applied for any government subsidies in the last ten years, so I haven't received them, but I've had plenty of inspections, and nobody ever asked me about memberships or fees, nor did I ever pay anyone anything.
People required to register for sales tax—who basically end up paying a "tax on thin air"—have to deal with certain forestry benefit fees just like any other business owner. I'm not sure if those specific rules are still the same since some of those extra levies were scrapped a few years ago, but with your father only having a few acres of land, he definitely isn't subject to that.
The only catch is if he’s retired and his total income from Social Security combined with his farming income exceeds $42,000 $0.00—then there might be some issues regarding taxes. You should look into that; there was a news report on TV a few years back about retirees facing similar issues.
As for me, I just pay property tax on the acreage I lease out.
Thomas Perez5 Thomas Perez5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2022
#44 ·
My dad's retired, but that probably won't change much when it comes to the rule forcing every Family Farm listed in the Business Registry to pay membership fees. This isn't some new rumor either; it’s an official decision passed by Congress and the administration a few years back. They've made it clear: if the previous year's dues aren't settled by December 15th, they'll just use forced collection methods to get it. As for what being "registered" actually means in the registry, it covers every member or...
Kate Chase59 Kate Chase59 Member
36 messages
joined Mar 2023
#45 ·
If you're already retired, you might have to deal with some income tax implications... I mentioned earlier that you should probably go consult a professional, because trying to get a straight answer on this forum is like pulling teeth.
From a layman's perspective, the best move would be to have the Family Farm registered under your name; if you're still working a regular job somewhere, it won't affect your status at all... unless you end up on unemployment, but let's not go down that rabbit hole right now...
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
joined Dec 2012
#46 ·
Thomas Perez5 said:My dad runs a family farm. Since he doesn't have an email address, I gave them mine. I just got this notification: any family farms registered in the Family Farm Registry are required to be members of the Chamber, which means paying membership fees.
Are all family farms automatically listed in that registry, and how can I check? Also, am I actually on the hook for this fee?

https://chamberofagriculture.org/reminder-payment...4-2022-year/
Harold Phillips54 Harold Phillips54 Member
33 messages
joined Apr 2020
#47 ·
Yeah, you looped me in, and I managed to dig up this from 2018:

"Anyone receiving subsidies will be required to pay membership dues to the Chamber of Agriculture. And no, this isn't some new tax."”

Like I mentioned before, I haven't taken any subsidies in ages, so I haven't seen any official notices or anything.
I'm not entirely sure how much this rule actually plays out in real life, but if it went into effect, your father would likely be responsible for the fees—probably a smaller amount depending on the size of the farm.

I put a little more effort into digging around and found this from just a few months ago:

"I am registered in the registry and I run a Family Farm. Am I required to be a member of the Chamber of Agriculture and pay dues?"

ANSWER

In accordance with Article 7 of the Law on the Chamber of Agriculture (The Official Gazette, No. 61/18), membership in the Chamber of Agriculture is mandatory for all farmers listed in the Family Farm Registry according to the Family Farm Act (The Official Gazette, No. 29/18 and 32/19), which dictates the methods and conditions for entry into the Business Registry. A farmer becomes a mandatory member at the moment they are entered into the Business Registry.


So, basically—your dad has to pay the dues, and if you eventually take over the Family Farm, you’ll be on the hook for them too, based on what this says.
If you happen to know the cost, you can decide for yourself if it's worth it. If not, it might be worth asking around to see what the rate is.
I doubt the price is the same for everyone, whether you're a massive producer or just running a small family operation.
Ashley Miller3 Ashley Miller3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Mar 2023
#48 ·
If a plot of land is registered as forest, does it count toward the Family Farm requirements?
I’ve got a few olive groves I’m trying to get back in shape. It’s going to take some time since they’re out on an island and pretty neglected right now. We’re looking to start a Family Farm. A lot of my plots don't qualify yet because they're under 500 m2. I'll need time to build them up to the 10,000 m2 mark...
Does anyone have advice or thoughts on how to actually make those scrubby areas—full of blackberry bushes and pine—functional for this?
Thanks in advance.
Adam Myers4 Adam Myers4 Member
48 messages
joined Mar 2023
#49 ·
Are you actually going for those 6.4.4 agricultural grants?
Ashley Miller3 Ashley Miller3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Mar 2023
#50 ·
It’s about the incentives, sure, but mostly it's about finding a specific niche. There's too much work out there already, and I don't want to waste my life chasing the wrong leads. Dealing with agencies is a joke—everyone gives you a different answer about the exact same thing. Same goes for the local zoning office when you're trying to get land designated for a campground or an RV park...

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