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Permanent ban after a PP?

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Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I couldn't find any mention of this anywhere. I tried sending a DM to a user who's been permanently banned from the forum, but no luck there. Is there any other way to get in touch? I really care about this... 😢
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#2 ·
Unfortunately, you can't handle that through the forum. While a user is banned, they aren't able to send or receive any messages...
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
😕 That’s a permanent ban, though. Even folks serving life sentences in US prisons get to have contact with people outside their immediate circle—it’s not just family or best friends; they can receive letters from pretty much anyone.

Michelle Evans, thanks for getting back to me. Rules are rules, I get it, but if I can be honest, this one feels a bit heartless. If we’re actually trying to build a better world, maybe we should keep that in mind... 😢

Best, Anthony Garcia19
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4 ·
I'm not entirely sure if this actually violates any rules, as it seems more like a technical glitch. I can't say for certain...
But, well, it is what it is.
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Michelle Evans said:I'm not totally sure if that actually violates any rules, it feels more like a technical glitch to me. Not really certain.
But hey, that's just how it is.

The tech side just follows the rules; if the rules change, the settings follow suit. 😉

If private messages are off the table, is there any other way to reach out to someone who's been permanently banned? If not, I have an idea. Along with the current banned list and the section for folks who want to send a final goodbye, thanks, or just whatever is on their heart... maybe we could allow a message on the specific thread they were part of? It wouldn't give moderators the job of deleting it as off-topic, and other users wouldn't be able to reply.

I don't see this as undermining the admin's authority or questioning their decision to ban someone. To me, it’s just a warm, human gesture. In my humble opinion, everyone deserves that, even the biggest troublemaker.

Since you're closer to the decision-makers, any chance you could push for these changes? Please...! 🙂
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#6 ·
Ashley Smith24 said:If direct messaging is off the table, is there any other way to reach out to someone who's been permanently banned? If not, I’ve got an idea. Along with the current "banned users" list and maybe a space for anyone who just wants to send one last message—a goodbye, a thank you, or whatever else is on their mind... What if we added a section on the user's profile where they can leave a note? It wouldn't give moderators the headache of having to police it as off-topic clutter, and it would prevent everyone else from jumping in with replies.

Look, if someone gets hit with a permanent ban, it's pretty clear they aren't welcome here anymore. Why should we go out of our way to provide them with any kind of special privileges?
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Check out my previous post. Including the part you missed. 😉

Also, try looking at this from another angle. Think about how it benefits people who want to pay their respects but haven't been banned. Remember, nobody is a total villain. Everyone’s done some good things in their life (and on this forum too!), and I think we can be a little generous for those good moments. 🙂
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#8 ·
Ashley Smith24 said:Also, try looking at this from a different angle—as a courtesy to those who want to say a final goodbye but aren't banned themselves. Remember, nobody is a total monster. Everyone’s done some good things in their life (and on this forum!), and for those good deeds, they deserve a little bit of grace. 🙂


I don't see any need for "reconsidering" when the situation is crystal clear. If you let people start replying and interacting from a permanent ban, even if it's just within one thread or a single post, you completely defeat the whole purpose of having bans in the first place.

Right now, on this thread, you can already send a farewell to someone who's been banned; it's just that they won't be able to write back.
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
Matthew Anderson said:I don't see any reason to debate this. It's pretty straightforward. If you let banned users jump back in to reply to even a single PDF or one random post, you've completely defeated the whole purpose of the ban.

That wasn't actually what I suggested. Go ahead and re-read my earlier comments so I don't have to repeat myself. 🙂
No one—not even people who are banned—should have the right to comment on those posts.
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
Matthew Anderson said:You can actually send a shout-out to someone who's been banned right here on this PDF, it's just that they won't be able to reply to you.

I didn't realize that. I actually asked about this back when I made my third post here. I thought it was against the rules.

Alright then, I'll give it a shot. Hopefully, I don't get a warning!

Thanks for the help! 🙂
Sophia Thomas7 Sophia Thomas7 Active Member
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#11 ·
Ashley Smith24 said:I actually didn't know—I think I asked about this back during my third post here. I was under the impression it wasn't allowed.

Alright then, I'll give it a shot. Hopefully, I don't end up with a strike!

Thanks for the help! 🙂


I mean, look, if people use those PDFs for formal proceedings, why should saying hello to someone be an issue? 😬
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
Wait, they're actually doing it..?! What's gotten into him? 😁
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#13 ·
Ashley Smith24 said:They’re actually doing it..?! Like, what is wrong with him? 😁

http://www.forum.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=70
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
I honestly never would’ve thought to look under the greeting cards! 😁

But hey, at least it’s here now. Hopefully, whoever I sent it to actually checks there... 😢

Thanks for the help, everyone! 👋
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#15 ·
whenever 🙂
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
Wait, what happened to my "congrats" post?! 😕
I literally just typed it and now it's gone!

Did someone delete it? Maybe someone missed our thread and has a different take than you two? 😢
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#17 ·
Just a quick heads-up for everyone: if you've been banned, you aren't allowed to communicate anywhere on this site except for the designated banned users corner. That includes private messages, too—those are considered a form of communication, so they're off-limits. Honestly, we see so many rule violations happening through DMs anyway, so there’d be no point in banning someone if we still left them an open door to keep doing exactly what got them in trouble in the first place. The same logic applies to the PDF Greeting thread; please don't use that space to mess with people's sanctions or try to start discussions with anyone who's currently banned.
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active MemberOP
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#18 ·
@rustydrifter10/">@@rustydrifter10

Are you saying all communication is off-limits now? Even one-sided messages like the ones I sent, where the banned user can't actually reply or participate anymore?

I’m not quite sure what you mean by "interfering" with someone else's moderation calls... 😕 If a regular user sends a message to someone who's been banned, and that message isn't attacking the admins or questioning their decision, I don't see how that undermines anyone's authority.

I really hope you'll take a moment to consider why I'm reaching out and the suggestions I've made in my previous posts. Look, I’m no genius, and I’m definitely not claiming to be right about everything. I’m not trying to force my views on anyone or push this agenda, but I truly believe these points are worth considering for those who handle the site rules.

We're human beings. We have this capacity for connection that sets us apart from anything else, and we shouldn't be suppressing that part of ourselves.

PS. If my post over at Congratulations, which was meant for the banned user, was misinterpreted and that's why it got pulled, I'm happy to fix it. Personally, I think it was pretty straightforward, but I'm willing to adjust.
Jacob Morgan77 Jacob Morgan77 Newcomer
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#19 ·
But what’s with these permanent bans...?
A lifetime ban feels like way too long...
People get second chances in court thinking they might actually learn from their mistakes, yet the moderation team here seems to have absolutely zero mercy...
Good grief, why though..?🙂😕
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#20 ·
Hey... do you happen to have an account that's been permanently banned? 😁

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