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coppermarlin14 coppermarlin14 Member
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#1681 ·
Whenever I mention that my younger daughter isn't interested in attending religious education classes, people just look at me with this overwhelming sense of pity... as if I’m somehow mentally deficient or incapable of handling things myself. It's honestly exhausting. They act like I don't understand the consequences, so I just tell them straight: how is she supposed to take her First Communion or go through Confirmation? And I say, well, she won't. Then they all just fall silent, probably whispering to themselves that they should pray for Mary and hope we can find our way through this. 😂
Linda Price5 Linda Price5 Active Member
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#1682 ·
feralmoose32 said:I think you might have missed a detail there—he actually wanted them to receive communion, he just didn't want them standing up at the altar with everyone else, maybe because he thought it wouldn't look right or something like that...

Besides, the child has Down, and they attend school with an aide—do you really think they have no idea what's going on?

People with Down aren't mentally incapable; they understand way more than you'd think, and honestly, they are often much more sincere in their faith than a lot of "devout Catholics" out there...

Down syndrome (DS or DNS), clinically referred to as trisomy 21, is a genetic condition stemming from an extra copy—or partial extra copy—of chromosome 21.[2] This condition generally manifests through delayed physical development, distinct facial characteristics, and varying degrees of intellectual disability ranging from mild to moderate.[1] On average, a young adult living with Down syndrome possesses an IQ of approximately 50, which aligns with the cognitive capacity of an 8- or 9-year-old, though there is significant individual variation.[7]

The majority of those with Down syndrome experience either mild (IQ: 50–69) or moderate (IQ: 35–50) intellectual disabilities, while more severe cases (IQ: 20–35) do occur.[1][30]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1683 ·
Why make this so complicated?
What exactly are your children learning from you?
The first step should be asking your kids what they actually want. If they have an interest in religious studies, then enroll them; if they don't, there are plenty of other ways to handle it.
Why on earth are we placing all this emphasis on the school system or the instructors when the choice rests entirely with you?
Oh, please...
Stand by your own convictions instead of pointing fingers at everyone else!
Your child should have the sole right to decide whether they want to attend religious education or not, regardless of your personal views.
In fact, by forcing a child to either attend or skip these classes, you might actually be violating one of their fundamental rights as individuals!
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1684 ·
Do you think a seven-year-old should be allowed to check out any book they want from the library? For example, something like *The Fault in Our Stars* or maybe a book about phobias...
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1685 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Do you think a seven-year-old should be allowed to check out any book they want from the library? For example, something like *The Fault in Our Stars* or maybe a book about phobias...

Oof
I wouldn't exactly expect to find Eric Jong or Henry Miller sitting on the shelves of an elementary school library.
They aren't exactly the best examples here...😵
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1686 ·
So, you really believe adults should be the ones deciding what kind of content kids are exposed to?
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1687 ·
rowdypanther12 said:So, you really believe adults should be the ones deciding what kind of content kids are exposed to?

Good grief, comparing this to a library is a completely different ballpark.
Has anyone here even looked into children's rights?
By "forcing" a child to attend or skip religious education, you are actively violating one of their fundamental rights.
How can you possibly draw a parallel between a library and this? Honestly, give me a break!
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1688 ·
I’m not really talking about the library itself, just the material they have on the shelves.
At the end of the day, parents are the ones responsible for what their kids are exposed to.
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1689 ·
rowdypanther12 said:I’m not really talking about the library itself, just the material they have on the shelves.
At the end of the day, parents are the ones responsible for what their kids are exposed to.

My apologies, I haven't caught up on the last few posts from last night or this morning, so I'm a bit lost regarding the context here.
I am speaking broadly regarding religious education classes... whether or not to enroll them if the child doesn't want to, or to send them if they do (though in first grade, they barely know what they want, and at that age, we can hardly consider it a meaningful choice).
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1690 ·
I’m talking about religious education, too. If a parent feels certain content is harmful or doesn't align with their values, they shouldn't have to let their child participate.
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1691 ·
rowdypanther12 said:I’m talking about religious education, too. If a parent feels certain content is harmful or doesn't align with their values, they shouldn't have to let their child participate.

Is it really appropriate to compare religious studies and its curriculum to the psychological adventures experienced by the heroine in a novel by Margaret Atwood? 😁
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1692 ·
No, I actually think it’s more harmful
restlessridge56 restlessridge56 Newcomer
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#1693 ·
rowdypanther12 said:No, I actually think it’s more harmful

😁
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1694 ·
rowdypanther12 said:No, I actually think it’s more harmful

I honestly think you're just afraid of him.
I read "Fear of Flying" twice—the first time I was just like, "WTF?", but by the second time, I was literally snapping photos and transcribing parts of it.
I’m positive that with you around, there's zero chance your kid will misinterpret or follow instructions from any random object. 🤓
And hey, if you give him a recipe for disaster and he ends up freezing up or acting out, then mission accomplished! 💪🏻 (That last part was a joke, no offense intended)
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1695 ·
Of course I'm worried about how this might affect my child; if I weren't afraid, I would have already enrolled her in 😂
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1696 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Of course I'm worried about how this might affect my child; if I weren't afraid, I would have already enrolled her in 😂

Well... obviously, we aren't teaching children to be malicious or corrupt.
Any potential illusions are usually boiled away the moment they develop a sense of critical thinking.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1697 ·
Yeah. I’d suggest taking a closer look at what's actually being taught.
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1698 ·
rowdypanther12 said:Yeah. I’d suggest taking a closer look at what's actually being taught.

I can't really dive into that right now.
Could I get a little help here? Like, what should I be studying? Any specific topics?
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#1699 ·
Feel free to take a look through this thread.
James Hall68 James Hall68 Member
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#1700 ·
Robert Rodriguez9 said:Feel free to take a look through this thread.

Does any religious education curriculum actually have a formal lesson plan on this topic?

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