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Participants AJeremy Wilson3granitepilot282fadedeagle39Henry RobertsChristian Green37James Chase10hollownomad35mistycyclist5Ashley Rogers4Ryan Bailey78Morgan Rodriguez57goldentrucker17Richard Wilson4
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#1 ·
Have we actually reached the point where she feels absolutely necessary?
How do you even begin to purge the parasites, the thieves, the scammers, and the corrupt officials who have embedded themselves into every single layer of our government?
How can we ever rebuild this country on a foundation of actual honesty and ethics?
I have to be honest—if this mess is what we were aiming for back when things started changing in the early 90s... I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. Where the hell are we even headed?😢😢😢
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#2 ·
Is terrorism just a logical reaction to a situation like this? You can't let those bastards sleep soundly. Brigitte Ross 🙂
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#3 ·
Nationalize everything immediately. Set up swift trials for anyone standing in our way. Hand the factories over to the workers, and take the land away from the wealthy elites to redistribute it to the hardworking farmers who will actually till the soil with their own calloused, honest hands. We need to give total control of the state to the metalworkers—they’re the true vanguard of the working class. That’s the only path left to save us. 🙄
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#4 ·
granitepilot282 said:Nationalize everything immediately. Set up swift trials for anyone standing in our way. Hand the factories over to the workers, and take the land away from the wealthy elites to redistribute it to the hardworking farmers who will actually till the soil with their own calloused, honest hands. We need to give total control of the state to the metalworkers—they’re the true vanguard of the working class. That’s the only path left to save us. 🙄

Forget about it; we've already tried that approach once. This time, our elite would probably just be satisfied with waving flags at parades.
fadedeagle39 fadedeagle39 Member
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#5 ·
Jeremy Wilson3 said:Forget about it; we've already tried that approach once. This time, our elite would probably just be satisfied with waving flags at parades.

We’re getting radical now! Look, I’m all for everything mentioned above—I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel either. But here's the thing: what if whoever comes next is even worse? It seems unlikely, since it's hard to imagine anyone being more corrupt than this lot, but still...? Auditing their assets, hitting them with the IRS... that would be a solid start, but we probably won't live to see it happen.

I'm actually down for some illegal resistance and striking fear into the hearts of these criminals in power. Maybe give them a little scare so they rethink whether staying in office is worth the headache.
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#6 ·
Jeremy Wilson3 said:Forget about it; we've already tried that approach once. This time, our elite would probably just be satisfied with waving flags at parades.

That goes without saying. But besides the elite, who else should we hang without a trial?

Are we fighting this on class lines, or is there a national angle too?🤣
Henry Roberts Henry Roberts Newcomer
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#7 ·
Anonymous said:Have we actually reached the point where she feels absolutely necessary?
How do you even begin to purge the parasites, the thieves, the scammers, and the corrupt officials who have embedded themselves into every single layer of our government?
How can we ever rebuild this country on a foundation of actual honesty and ethics?
I have to be honest—if this mess is what we were aiming for back when things started changing in the early 90s... I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. Where the hell are we even headed?😢😢😢

The values we held in the 90s were significantly stronger than what we're seeing today.

There’s a line from Megadeth that hits home right now: "Where do we go from here, and should we really care? The end is finally here—God have mercy!"
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#8 ·
fadedeagle39 said:We’re getting radical now! Look, I’m all for everything mentioned above—I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel either. But here's the thing: what if whoever comes next is even worse? It seems unlikely, since it's hard to imagine anyone being more corrupt than this lot, but still...? Auditing their assets, hitting them with the IRS... that would be a solid start, but we probably won't live to see it happen.

I'm actually down for some illegal resistance and striking fear into the hearts of these criminals in power. Maybe give them a little scare so they rethink whether staying in office is worth the headache.

Don't sweat the small stuff. As long as those power lines go down, we're fine. Terrorism—that's the real issue here. 🙂
Christian Green37 Christian Green37 Member
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#9 ·
fadedeagle39 said:We’re getting radical now! Look, I’m all for everything mentioned above—I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel either. But here's the thing: what if whoever comes next is even worse? It seems unlikely, since it's hard to imagine anyone being more corrupt than this lot, but still...? Auditing their assets, hitting them with the IRS... that would be a solid start, but we probably won't live to see it happen.

I'm actually down for some illegal resistance and striking fear into the hearts of these criminals in power. Maybe give them a little scare so they rethink whether staying in office is worth the headache.

Everyone hit the streets.🙂
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#10 ·
Robespierre really sorted out the mess over in France. Things were looking pretty similar to how they are here in the States right now. After all that, the head of that guy King Louis XVI—who actually thought he was sent by God and could just boss the whole country around without limits—rolled straight off the guillotine and into a basket, much to the absolute delight of the cheering crowds. Ever since then, up until today, nobody in France even dreams of messing with the elites or big business like that again.

I'm telling you, terrorism is the real deal.
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#11 ·
Jeremy Wilson3 said:Robespierre really sorted out the mess over in France. Things were looking pretty similar to how they are here in the States right now. After all that, the head of that guy King Louis XVI—who actually thought he was sent by God and could just boss the whole country around without limits—rolled straight off the guillotine and into a basket, much to the absolute delight of the cheering crowds. Ever since then, up until today, nobody in France even dreams of messing with the elites or big business like that again.

I'm telling you, terrorism is the real deal.

True, but you forgot that his head rolled off shortly after that, too. 🤣
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#12 ·
granitepilot282 said:True, but you forgot that his head rolled off shortly after that, too. 🤣

Fair point. I suppose there will always be small minds that fail to grasp the grand visions of great men.

The important thing is that the guillotine did a fine job on the elite back then. They didn't have electric chairs yet, unfortunately. That would have made the effect truly complete. 😉
James Chase10 James Chase10 Newcomer
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#13 ·
granitepilot282 said:Nationalize everything immediately. Set up swift trials for anyone standing in our way. Hand the factories over to the workers, and take the land away from the wealthy elites to redistribute it to the hardworking farmers who will actually till the soil with their own calloused, honest hands. We need to give total control of the state to the metalworkers—they’re the true vanguard of the working class. That’s the only path left to save us. 🙄

Honestly, what’s the point of working with "calloused hands"? You should just work with the callouses themselves. We ought to set up some sort of weekly collective award—something like "The Most Calloused Hand"—to honor the top worker.😂
hollownomad35 hollownomad35 Newcomer
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#14 ·
I wouldn't call myself radical... we haven't actually tried anything yet—it’s all just talk and keyboard activism 😢
Why doesn't everyone just hit the streets to start with?
mistycyclist5 mistycyclist5 Active Member
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#15 ·
Right now, there’s nothing revolutionary about us. Let’s be honest: we’re a lazy nation. We won't truly start waking up until the pressure becomes absolutely unbearable—until small protests are popping up every single week. That’s when the masses will finally stir. As long as we stay unified and maintain a clear goal and vision, we are practically unstoppable. Eventually, a leader will emerge—someone to step up and guide the movement.

RESULT=The corrupt administration will be toppled, and while I have no idea what comes next, you know what they say: "there's light at the end of the tunnel."

P.S. This whole referendum regarding NATO has started to unravel the knot, and people are slowly beginning to wake up... long live the revolution, provided it's actually for the good of the people!

🙂
Ashley Rogers4 Ashley Rogers4 Member
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#16 ·
Look, the way this system is DESIGNED, you just can't fix it from the inside using peaceful democratic ways. It’s just not happening.

The only real way out is a total overhaul of the Constitution—changing the entire structure of the government. We need to STRIP away the power of the POLITICAL PARTIES to rule OVER the people. We need something like what they have in the USA, where the PEOPLE actually hold every politician "by the throat" and make sure they're answerable to their local communities.

Complete privatization of all resources, slashing bureaucracy down to almost nothing, capping taxes at a level where we only pay off debts, implementing basic labor laws, setting up dedicated labor courts, passing laws that make private property absolutely untouchable, cutting social benefits to a bare minimum (so nobody's just living off someone else's hard work), total freedom of trade and labor, and some serious vetting... honestly, it sounds like science fiction.

It'll happen in New Jersey in a month.

OR—we go the violent route, which is really the only option left for Europe.

OR—we get displaced all across Earth, which, let's face it, is already starting to happen.

There just aren't any other solutions.
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#17 ·
hollownomad35 said:I wouldn't call myself radical... we haven't actually tried anything yet—it’s all just talk and keyboard activism 😢
Why doesn't everyone just hit the streets to start with?

Forget the streets, that won't work. The Flag is our only real option.
Ryan Bailey78 Ryan Bailey78 Member
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#18 ·
I find it hard to believe we’ll ever see a true revolution because, quite frankly, there aren't any revolutionaries left in this country. Every time protests break out and the crowd finds itself staring down a line of SWAT teams or specialized riot police
the protesters simply retreat. So, if you ask me, there isn't even a hint of a revolution to be found here.
Besides, if we are actually serious about wanting a revolution, we have to face the grim reality that such things don't happen without bloodshed and sacrifice. We are far too passive a people for that kind of upheaval. Real change would require violence, and if we aren't prepared to deal with that level of brutality, then we really shouldn't be wasting our breath discussing revolution on an internet forum.
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#19 ·
Ashley Rogers4 said:Look, the way this system is DESIGNED, you just can't fix it from the inside using peaceful democratic ways. It’s just not happening.

The only real way out is a total overhaul of the Constitution—changing the entire structure of the government. We need to STRIP away the power of the POLITICAL PARTIES to rule OVER the people. We need something like what they have in the USA, where the PEOPLE actually hold every politician "by the throat" and make sure they're answerable to their local communities.

Complete privatization of all resources, slashing bureaucracy down to almost nothing, capping taxes at a level where we only pay off debts, implementing basic labor laws, setting up dedicated labor courts, passing laws that make private property absolutely untouchable, cutting social benefits to a bare minimum (so nobody's just living off someone else's hard work), total freedom of trade and labor, and some serious vetting... honestly, it sounds like science fiction.

It'll happen in New Jersey in a month.

OR—we go the violent route, which is really the only option left for Europe.

OR—we get displaced all across Earth, which, let's face it, is already starting to happen.

There just aren't any other solutions.

And you really picked *that* as your example... if there's anywhere lacking democracy, it's definitely the US... 🤣
Ashley Rogers4 Ashley Rogers4 Member
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#20 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:And you really picked *that* as your example... if there's anywhere lacking democracy, it's definitely the US... 🤣

Well, it really depends on how you define democracy. At its core, democracy can just be rule by the mob—and honestly, we've seen that play out far too many times already.

A constitutional democracy is all about the rule of law, where the rules apply equally to everyone. That is exactly what the USA is. It's just that the radicals and the local traitors are working overtime to spin it as some kind of sacrilege.

I totally get why they do it, though. It’s their way of trying to strip away the power of the system (even if it also strips away the strength of their own arguments).

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