Sanctions on Russia

Andrew Miller102 said:If that’s the point you're making, then "you also have to consider that most people are completely oblivious to those lesser-known but unfortunately vital or irreplaceable raw materials". We aren't talking about oil or gas here; if you want the specifics, check out the links below.☕

Look, Neon comes about 70% from Ukraine, so I'm not sure how much that actually ties into sanctions against Russia.

Meanwhile, regarding Palladium exports:
Russia is at $6.4 billion
United Kingdom is at $5.4 billion
USA is at $5.4 billion
Italy, Germany, and Belgium are around $2 billion each

Europe has plenty of Palladium available, but Neon doesn't depend on sanctions—it depends on Russian bombs.

coastalbison6 said:Putin just confirmed it—starting tomorrow, they're only taking rubles for gas.

He's basically just digging his own grave with these sanctions.👍

coastalbison6 said:Putin just confirmed it—starting tomorrow, they're only taking rubles for gas.

What about natural gas?🙂)

coastalbison6 said:Putin just confirmed it—starting tomorrow, they're only taking rubles for gas.

So now the Germans will gear up again and charge toward Moscow. This time, they won't even need to take Kyiv.

gentlestag15 said:Look, Neon comes about 70% from Ukraine, so I'm not sure how much that actually ties into sanctions against Russia.

Meanwhile, regarding Palladium exports:
Russia is at $6.4 billion
United Kingdom is at $5.4 billion
USA is at $5.4 billion
Italy, Germany, and Belgium are around $2 billion each

Europe has plenty of Palladium available, but Neon doesn't depend on sanctions—it depends on Russian bombs.

He's basically just digging his own grave with these sanctions.👍

If you actually bother to read the links,😁 everything clearly distinguishes between what relates to sanctions and what's a direct result of the war in Ukraine. There simply isn't any Neon coming from Ukraine anymore; production has either ground to a halt or died off entirely.

Ingas, a firm based in Mariupol,

Cryoin, a firm out of Odesa.

If you pay any attention to where chips are manufactured, you'll realize the major players are incredibly worried. TSMC in Taiwan is leading that anxiety, which makes sense given they are the linchpin for most Western customers. AMD, Qualcomm, Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia, MediaTek, and Apple are just a few names on a much longer list of companies whose hardware relies directly on TSMC's production capacity.

Europe seems to produce nothing but politicians and fog; if TSMC production ever stops for any reason—and China is always lurking nearby—we're looking at an epic-scale crisis. Even the auto industry is heavily dependent on TSMC for the various chips and SoCs integrated into modern vehicles.☕

Andrew Miller102 said:If you actually bother to read the links,😁 everything clearly distinguishes between what relates to sanctions and what's a direct result of the war in Ukraine. There simply isn't any Neon coming from Ukraine anymore; production has either ground to a halt or died off entirely.

Ingas, a firm based in Mariupol,

Cryoin, a firm out of Odesa.

If you pay any attention to where chips are manufactured, you'll realize the major players are incredibly worried. TSMC in Taiwan is leading that anxiety, which makes sense given they are the linchpin for most Western customers. AMD, Qualcomm, Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia, MediaTek, and Apple are just a few names on a much longer list of companies whose hardware relies directly on TSMC's production capacity.

Europe seems to produce nothing but politicians and fog; if TSMC production ever stops for any reason—and China is always lurking nearby—we're looking at an epic-scale crisis. Even the auto industry is heavily dependent on TSMC for the various chips and SoCs integrated into modern vehicles.☕

You're replying to the post "But most of those who sanctioned Russia are still forced to import their raw materials," then someone tells you Neon production isn't even tied to Russian sanctions and you still try to act smart.

I didn't see your reply about which second-tier units the Russians burned through versus the elite ones, so at least you weren't talking nonsense like you are now.

I don't even know where to start with this one. Honestly, my head is spinning just thinking about the sheer stupidity on display lately. It feels like every time I log on, there's some new, half-baked theory floating around that makes absolutely zero sense if you actually apply even an ounce of logic to it. And don't get me started on what Brenda Murphy3 was saying earlier. Seriously? You can't be serious with that take. It’s like some people just wake up and decide to ignore reality entirely. I mean, I try to be reasonable—really, I do—but there's a limit to how much nonsense I can digest before I just need to go scream into a pillow for twenty minutes. It’s frustrating because we should be having actual, substantive discussions here, not just watching the same tired arguments loop over and over again. We need to step it up. If we're going to talk about the big stuff, let's actually use our brains for once. Otherwise, what's even the point? Brenda Murphy3 says:
Dude, seriously, just read the links.😁 You’re making a lot of sense when you separate what’s actually about the sanctions from what’s happening on the ground in Ukraine. But let's be real for a second—it doesn't even matter anymore. There is no more Neon coming out of Ukraine. Period. Production hasn't just slowed down; it’s basically dead in the water.

That Ingas outfit over in Mariopul... man, they really think they're something special, don't they?

Cryogenics Research Inc., that firm out of Odessa AKO.

If you’ve been keeping even a passing eye on the chip manufacturing scene lately, you already know the big players are sweating bullets. Honestly, they should be. You look at Intel, and they're basically sitting at the center of the storm right now because they're footing the bill for so many Western clients. They’re carrying the heavy lifting for the entire West, and that kind of pressure? It’s enough to give anyone a massive headache.

Europe produces nothing but politicians and hot air.Look, let’s just stop beating around the bush here. If things go south—for whatever reason—and production at Intel hits a wall, we are looking at an absolute meltdown on an epic scale because China is right there breathing down our necks. The entire American auto industry is basically riding on the back of Intel's chip manufacturing. We're talking about everything from basic sensors to complex SoCs that run modern cars. If those chips stop flowing, the whole car market goes up in flames. It's that simple.☕

😁

How am I even supposed to take this garbage seriously? Like, actually, how? They sit there typing out absolute nonsense and genuinely believe they’re making a point. It's honestly embarrassing.😁🤣

gentlestag15 said:Look, Neon comes about 70% from Ukraine, so I'm not sure how much that actually ties into sanctions against Russia.

Meanwhile, regarding Palladium exports:
Russia is at $6.4 billion
United Kingdom is at $5.4 billion
USA is at $5.4 billion
Italy, Germany, and Belgium are around $2 billion each

Europe has plenty of Palladium available, but Neon doesn't depend on sanctions—it depends on Russian bombs.

He's basically just digging his own grave with these sanctions.👍

Where'd I get this?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-of-palladium/
South Africa is basically our saving grace here; otherwise, Russia would pretty much have a monopoly.

Mario Draghi, who was on the phone with Vladimir Putin this past Wednesday, mentioned that Putin assured him current contracts are staying put. Apparently, European companies are going to keep paying in Euros and Dollars rather than switching over to the Russian currency.

Seems a little fishy to me...

gentlestag15 said:Look, Neon comes about 70% from Ukraine, so I'm not sure how much that actually ties into sanctions against Russia.

Meanwhile, regarding Palladium exports:
Russia is at $6.4 billion
United Kingdom is at $5.4 billion
USA is at $5.4 billion
Italy, Germany, and Belgium are around $2 billion each

Europe has plenty of Palladium available, but Neon doesn't depend on sanctions—it depends on Russian bombs.

He's basically just digging his own grave with these sanctions.👍

Oh, really?
Turns out it was all a bluff—they can just keep using Euro accounts at JPMorgan Chase, just like he promised Olaf Scholz.🙄

darkrider55 said:Mario Draghi, who was on the phone with Vladimir Putin this past Wednesday, mentioned that Putin assured him current contracts are staying put. Apparently, European companies are going to keep paying in Euros and Dollars rather than switching over to the Russian currency.

Seems a little fishy to me...

He gave them a bit of a hard time—the fallout is going to be brutal.

Honestly, I’m just glad to see the Russian people taking a bit more of a hit now—though I guess they can keep backing their politicians in the polls if they want. Until they actually start pushing back, nothing’s really going to change. We need to shut down those borders with Belarus and crank up the sanctions.

What's the verdict? Any thoughts?

coastalmarlin64 said:What's the verdict? Any thoughts?

Honestly, we’ve been saying this for ages—this whole thing isn't actually about some "NATO threat" or a "weakened Russia." At the end of the day, it's just straight-up economic warfare.

coastalbison6 said:Putin just confirmed it—starting tomorrow, they're only taking rubles for gas.

That’s just fake news straight from the Kremlin.😁
They'd expect everyone to open an account at a Russian bank and wire over dollars or euros just so they can convert it into rubles (or seashells, or Monopoly money, or whatever else).🤣

Joshua Myers432 said:So now the Germans will gear up again and charge toward Moscow. This time, they won't even need to take Kyiv.

Personally, I'm more concerned about that "third luck" thing...

Russia has been threatening to pivot entirely toward Asia for a long time now, and honestly, let them. They’ll be dealing with different players, different rules, and a completely different kind of "predator" out there.
Maybe they'll find themselves being the "weak" ones or just another group of snowflakes over there.

coastalmarlin64 said:What's the verdict? Any thoughts?

He could've easily pushed into those regions without obsessing over taking Kyiv, especially since they already bled out so many elite units and trashed an insane amount of gear trying to grab the capital. It just feels like more of the same—people twisting the narrative to claim this was the grand master plan all along.

rowdytiger13 said:Russia has been threatening to pivot entirely toward Asia for a long time now, and honestly, let them. They’ll be dealing with different players, different rules, and a completely different kind of "predator" out there.
Maybe they'll find themselves being the "weak" ones or just another group of snowflakes over there.

Oh, don't you worry one bit; they'll be crawling back to the West begging for us to take them back before you know it.
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Dennis Price said:Honestly, I’m just glad to see the Russian people taking a bit more of a hit now—though I guess they can keep backing their politicians in the polls if they want. Until they actually start pushing back, nothing’s really going to change. We need to shut down those borders with Belarus and crank up the sanctions.

I find it hard to believe that support for Putin is actually what the polls suggest. When every media outlet is under state control, how much weight can you really give to any survey? Even here in the States, before an election, we see endless polling; you can easily spot which side is driving the narrative. But over there, there is only one side holding the reins with an iron fist. You could easily publish results that run completely contrary to what the administration wants to hear. I wouldn't be surprised if public dissent climbs well past 100% eventually.
I don't take pleasure in seeing the masses suffer. In Russia, the leadership feels no pressure to "cater" to the public, because their grip on power doesn't rely on the will of the voters. Perhaps every nation deserves the government it gets, though that rule applies more inconsistently than one might think. That is why a population needs to react violently—to the very first signs of authoritarianism—before those tendencies become too deeply embedded in the ruling class.

Nancy Gomez26 said:I find it hard to believe that support for Putin is actually what the polls suggest. When every media outlet is under state control, how much weight can you really give to any survey? Even here in the States, before an election, we see endless polling; you can easily spot which side is driving the narrative. But over there, there is only one side holding the reins with an iron fist. You could easily publish results that run completely contrary to what the administration wants to hear. I wouldn't be surprised if public dissent climbs well past 100% eventually.
I don't take pleasure in seeing the masses suffer. In Russia, the leadership feels no pressure to "cater" to the public, because their grip on power doesn't rely on the will of the voters. Perhaps every nation deserves the government it gets, though that rule applies more inconsistently than one might think. That is why a population needs to react violently—to the very first signs of authoritarianism—before those tendencies become too deeply embedded in the ruling class.

Of course the support looks massive.
The media blackout is doing its job. They're convinced they're winning and that Putin is making a fool out of Europe and the USA.
Once the war eventually ends and the sanctions and isolation remain, things will change. In a few years, the impact will hit. They'll feel that Western decoupling just like they felt it during the Cold War, leading to total stagnation. That's when the real resentment starts to build up.

Nancy Gomez26 said:I find it hard to believe that support for Putin is actually what the polls suggest. When every media outlet is under state control, how much weight can you really give to any survey? Even here in the States, before an election, we see endless polling; you can easily spot which side is driving the narrative. But over there, there is only one side holding the reins with an iron fist. You could easily publish results that run completely contrary to what the administration wants to hear. I wouldn't be surprised if public dissent climbs well past 100% eventually.
I don't take pleasure in seeing the masses suffer. In Russia, the leadership feels no pressure to "cater" to the public, because their grip on power doesn't rely on the will of the voters. Perhaps every nation deserves the government it gets, though that rule applies more inconsistently than one might think. That is why a population needs to react violently—to the very first signs of authoritarianism—before those tendencies become too deeply embedded in the ruling class.

Russia hasn't exactly had a history of democracy, so the people don't know any better. How are they supposed to revolt? Regardless, things are arguably a lot better under Putin than they were under Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Peter the Great, or the rest of that crew.