Sanctions on Russia

Putin's just throwing a tantrum because Europe wants to put a cap on gas prices. It’s pretty obvious that Russia loses way more if the supply actually stops for good, so why is the government acting so defensive?

Bryan Booth82 said:"Oil is leaking everywhere, creating a massive explosion risk and a serious fire hazard. If you just give us the turbine, we can have Nord Stream 1 back online by tomorrow." "But no, they aren't giving us a damn thing," says Putin .
What was it they said again? That those Western sanctions don't actually do anything.
They won't lift a finger for a global superpower.
LP

Are we talking about that one turbine sitting all alone in some warehouse, getting serviced and repaired while it listens to music waiting for someone to actually pick it up, or is this something else entirely?

What a liar.

gentlerider7 said:Or maybe they're just some naive sucker swallowing every single thing Putin feeds them.

Considering that Russians and their media have been essentially scrubbed from the internet and TV 99% of the time, even if I actually wanted to swallow what Putin is serving—how am I supposed to find it?

Are you suggesting the only thing left to swallow is the stuff Putin served originally, which our own media then repackaged and reinterpreted for us?

So, we're just supposed to assume gas pipelines running through Ukraine and Greece don't need any maintenance? Who’s actually out there servicing them—and when? It's funny how "transparent" the Russians claim to be. You can see right through them...

swiftjackal11 said:Putin's just throwing a tantrum because Europe wants to put a cap on gas prices. It’s pretty obvious that Russia loses way more if the supply actually stops for good, so why is the government acting so defensive?

And they're gonna do it, too. We're talking billions of dollars a day... if he just shuts off the valve.

Lisa Myers27 said:Considering that Russians and their media have been essentially scrubbed from the internet and TV 99% of the time, even if I actually wanted to swallow what Putin is serving—how am I supposed to find it?

Are you suggesting the only thing left to swallow is the stuff Putin served originally, which our own media then repackaged and reinterpreted for us?

You can't really "delete" anything from the internet—you can only try to block access to it. And honestly? Bypassing those blocks is usually just as easy.

electricsurfer47 said:Don't get me wrong, manufacturing requires tech that the Russians just don't have right now. They can try to buy it abroad or try to build their own from scratch, but building tech from the ground up takes a massive amount of time.

We're long past the days when most stuff was made by hand, back when there was less high-tech involved and more manual labor.

My point is this: Russia can no longer revert to the way things were over 30 years ago. That infrastructure vanished a long time ago. What replaced those old production lines is now deeply integrated into global supply chains, and such systems cannot function in isolation from the rest of the world. Putin has effectively driven them into a quagmire. The more they struggle to break free, the faster and deeper the Russian Federation sinks.

Nancy Gomez26 said:My point is this: Russia can no longer revert to the way things were over 30 years ago. That infrastructure vanished a long time ago. What replaced those old production lines is now deeply integrated into global supply chains, and such systems cannot function in isolation from the rest of the world. Putin has effectively driven them into a quagmire. The more they struggle to break free, the faster and deeper the Russian Federation sinks.

Maybe the US can manage to be self-sufficient in the modern age, or close enough to it. I doubt anyone else can.

Nancy Gomez26 said:My point is this: Russia can no longer revert to the way things were over 30 years ago. That infrastructure vanished a long time ago. What replaced those old production lines is now deeply integrated into global supply chains, and such systems cannot function in isolation from the rest of the world. Putin has effectively driven them into a quagmire. The more they struggle to break free, the faster and deeper the Russian Federation sinks.

They’re turning into North Korea 2.0.
The one silver lining they have... is all those natural resources.
Nukes, sex bombs—you name it.
A massive wildcard for the stability of Europe.

bluemason3 said:Maybe the US can manage to be self-sufficient in the modern age, or close enough to it. I doubt anyone else can.

Even then, there’s little economic sense in being totally self-sufficient. If other countries can produce goods more cheaply, let them. Eventually, the scales will balance out through different means.

Bryan Booth82 said:"Oil is leaking everywhere, creating a massive explosion risk and a serious fire hazard. If you just give us the turbine, we can have Nord Stream 1 back online by tomorrow." "But no, they aren't giving us a damn thing," says Putin .
What was it they said again? That those Western sanctions don't actually do anything.
They won't lift a finger for a global superpower.
LP

European companies used to maintain the Nord Stream equipment under contract, but now sanctions mean they're legally barred from fulfilling those obligations... exactly what the crowd shouting against Russia wants. But when the situation flips regarding oil and gas deliveries, suddenly everyone starts screaming about penalties for breach of contract... ☕

The upside? Oil is sitting around $85 right now. The downside for Americans? Diesel prices spiked because they brought back taxes to feed the political machine, not because of actual oil prices.☕

Yep, looks like some people finally see the issue with implementing price freezes, just like they did in Mexico and North Korea. ☕
It's like Plenković watched Deep Impact, where Morgan Freeman put his hands on the table and declared a freeze on everything.☕

bluemason3 said:Maybe the US can manage to be self-sufficient in the modern age, or close enough to it. I doubt anyone else can.

That whole "self-sufficient" dream was exactly what the old America tried to pull off. We all saw how that disaster played out. ☕

dustyowl29 said:Diesel taxes are back.
It's more expensive than gas all over the US.
Been this way for months.

It’s pricier because those damn taxes kicked back in everywhere. Nobody's going to tell you that, though.
Oil is sitting at $85. Maybe less. Gas prices are dropping while diesel climbs. How do you explain that gap when, historically, prices ALWAYS follow what the barrel is doing? ☕

Save that bedtime story for the kids.

rowdyraven112 said:That whole "self-sufficient" dream was exactly what the old America tried to pull off. We all saw how that disaster played out. ☕

I’m not talking about general economic independence or long-term self-reliance. I mean the actual ability to maintain and service a defense industry on your own.

rowdyraven112 said:It’s pricier because those damn taxes kicked back in everywhere. Nobody's going to tell you that, though.
Oil is sitting at $85. Maybe less. Gas prices are dropping while diesel climbs. How do you explain that gap when, historically, prices ALWAYS follow what the barrel is doing? ☕

Save that bedtime story for the kids.

You’ve already started fifty different threads about why diesel is pricier. The tax used to be $1.00 and now it’s $0.83. Even if they bumped it back to $1.00, we're talking about a difference of maybe five cents. So, did they hike the gas tax too, or was that scrapped entirely? This is nonsense.
Do a little homework on oil, fuel markets, supply, and demand—stop posting junk.

Right now, diesel is more expensive than gas everywhere you look.

https://www.cnn.com/economy/why-diesel-prices-are-rising

rowdyraven112 said:European companies used to maintain the Nord Stream equipment under contract, but now sanctions mean they're legally barred from fulfilling those obligations... exactly what the crowd shouting against Russia wants. But when the situation flips regarding oil and gas deliveries, suddenly everyone starts screaming about penalties for breach of contract... ☕

The upside? Oil is sitting around $85 right now. The downside for Americans? Diesel prices spiked because they brought back taxes to feed the political machine, not because of actual oil prices.☕

Yep, looks like some people finally see the issue with implementing price freezes, just like they did in Mexico and North Korea. ☕
It's like Plenković watched Deep Impact, where Morgan Freeman put his hands on the table and declared a freeze on everything.☕

GE Vernova was more than willing to handle the servicing. 🕺

GE Vernova is facing some serious headwinds right now. Recent reports indicate they're dealing with significant setbacks regarding their energy projects, which is putting a lot of pressure on their bottom line. It looks like the complexities of managing large-scale infrastructure are catching up to them, leading to unexpected costs and delays. This kind of volatility is tough for investors to stomach, especially when you're looking for stability in the energy sector. It’ll be interesting to see how management pivots to stabilize their margins moving forward...

Did the US government clear Nacilavrov's entry into the States for the UN conference?

swiftjackal11 said:Did the US government clear Nacilavrov's entry into the States for the UN conference?

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...ns-2022-09-02/

No fresh news yet.

rowdyraven112 said:That whole "self-sufficient" dream was exactly what the old America tried to pull off. We all saw how that disaster played out. ☕

Look, the breakup of America wasn't caused by its pursuit of self-reliance. 😁 🤣

There is a massive difference between striving for independence to build security and being forced into isolation because everyone else shut you out. In today’s world, if the USA decides to isolate you, you effectively become a third-world nation overnight. Honestly, Russia is lucky they have nuclear weapons; without them, the West would just force "democracy" on them, which is really just code for dragging them back to the Stone Age.

Joshua Myers432 said:Look, the breakup of America wasn't caused by its pursuit of self-reliance. 😁 🤣

There is a massive difference between striving for independence to build security and being forced into isolation because everyone else shut you out. In today’s world, if the USA decides to isolate you, you effectively become a third-world nation overnight. Honestly, Russia is lucky they have nuclear weapons; without them, the West would just force "democracy" on them, which is really just code for dragging them back to the Stone Age.

Back in the early nineties, the US could have practically bought Russia for a handful of rice; they weren't exactly looking to spread democracy then. Instead, what they actually did was bankroll Yeltsin to stay in power. When Zyuganov was actually getting close to winning an election, they just sent over PR experts along with more loans to make sure Yeltsin pulled through.

Honestly? It might have been better if the US had just colonized them. At least then there’d be a real shot at developing a functional democracy one day. Instead, they just ended up stuck in this weird hybrid mess of charisma and communism.