Sanctions on Russia

Gerald Chavez7 said:https://twitter.com/GeorgZachmann/st...40761499713536



https://www.bruegel.org/publications...l-gas-imports/

Right now, the current trajectory for LNG imports in the European Union is basically covering 50% of what used to be Russian gas imports. By the 2025-27 window—if things keep moving this way—we’re pretty much done with importing Russian oil and gas altogether...

While the ultimate goal is set for 2030, there was a planned reduction of 20-30% targeted by 2023. Consequently, we will see very soon whether the European Union actually follows its own roadmap.

Gerald Chavez7 said:https://twitter.com/GeorgZachmann/st...40761499713536



https://www.bruegel.org/publications...l-gas-imports/

Right now, the current trajectory for LNG imports in the European Union is basically covering 50% of what used to be Russian gas imports. By the 2025-27 window—if things keep moving this way—we’re pretty much done with importing Russian oil and gas altogether...

What really matters here is this: Gazprom storage : critically Low levels

This isn't a new phenomenon; it's been building for quite some time. It feels like a deliberate move to drive prices up!
However, you can clearly see a shift was already happening even before this war broke out. We saw LNG surging while Russian gas plummeted. For instance, the Yamal pipeline dropped by 47%.

There was a massive surge of 100 billion cubic meters of LNG in 2022 compared to 2021.
If we successfully substitute 50% of Russian gas in 2022, Russia will find themselves in a total economic meltdown as early as 2023.

Morgan Morales4 said:Exactly. The way the media frames sanctions is that they're this grand tool meant to make the Russian people rise up and topple a criminal like Vladimir Putin. But honestly, if we're being real, how much effort was actually put into helping the people in Ukraine tackle the systemic corruption within their own borders? Because when you see stories about officials landing in foreign countries with suitcases full of cash, it really makes you stop and wonder what's actually going on behind the scenes. The whole idea that Putin is just going to collapse under pressure—especially while direct lines of communication between the US and Russia are staying wide open—just sounds... well, let's just say I'm not buying it.

I don't think anyone implementing these sanctions actually believes they’ll trigger Putin's downfall; if that happens, it's just a side effect, not the primary objective. The actual goal is to bleed the Russian economy dry over the long haul, specifically targeting their energy exports, which serve as the lifeblood for both their military machine and their general economy to the European Union. Anyone under the impression that Russia can simply pivot its entire export infrastructure overnight and maintain the same revenue streams clearly hasn't looked at the math.

Nathan Evans78 said:It's all about managing PR to get ahead of inflation expectations.

What’s even more striking is the massive spike in people who are fed up with the Chancellor’s policies—about 33% are reporting they're "dissatisfied," which is a huge jump from only 18% just last month. On top of that, general frustration with the administration has climbed from 23% back in January to a whopping 32% right now.

Inflation is a reality that has arrived and is here to stay, much like something European Union citizens have come to expect.
Everyone understands that these costs represent the price tag for breaking free from Russia and those types of threats being broadcasted on TV regarding nuclear fallout across the European Union.
As for what happens with Russia in 2025 when they're barely exporting any hydrocarbons at all? Who cares. That's their business.

George Robinson43 said:Inflation is a reality that has arrived and is here to stay, much like something European Union citizens have come to expect.
Everyone understands that these costs represent the price tag for breaking free from Russia and those types of threats being broadcasted on TV regarding nuclear fallout across the European Union.
As for what happens with Russia in 2025 when they're barely exporting any hydrocarbons at all? Who cares. That's their business.

Ah, so you’re still part of that TV generation, I see. 🤣

Look, I am personally willing to pay whatever it takes, but we have to figure out how to keep those living below the median income powered up. There really are only two ways to play this: either we go after the wealthy with a Wealth tax, or we just start printing new dollars at the Federal Reserve. ☕

Michael Ortiz68 said:While the ultimate goal is set for 2030, there was a planned reduction of 20-30% targeted by 2023. Consequently, we will see very soon whether the European Union actually follows its own roadmap.

actually 2027 😉

George Robinson43 said:What really matters here is this: Gazprom storage : critically Low levels

This isn't a new phenomenon; it's been building for quite some time. It feels like a deliberate move to drive prices up!
However, you can clearly see a shift was already happening even before this war broke out. We saw LNG surging while Russian gas plummeted. For instance, the Yamal pipeline dropped by 47%.

There was a massive surge of 100 billion cubic meters of LNG in 2022 compared to 2021.
If we successfully substitute 50% of Russian gas in 2022, Russia will find themselves in a total economic meltdown as early as 2023.

Especially regarding gas, since it's nearly impossible for them to make up for those lost exports to the European Union. They just don't have the pipeline capacity to theoretically export to China instead.

Michael Ortiz68 said:I don't think anyone implementing these sanctions actually believes they’ll trigger Putin's downfall; if that happens, it's just a side effect, not the primary objective. The actual goal is to bleed the Russian economy dry over the long haul, specifically targeting their energy exports, which serve as the lifeblood for both their military machine and their general economy to the European Union. Anyone under the impression that Russia can simply pivot its entire export infrastructure overnight and maintain the same revenue streams clearly hasn't looked at the math.

True, the sanctions are gutting Russia's ability to intervene—whether in Ukraine or anywhere else globally.

George Robinson43 said:Inflation is a reality that has arrived and is here to stay, much like something European Union citizens have come to expect.
Everyone understands that these costs represent the price tag for breaking free from Russia and those types of threats being broadcasted on TV regarding nuclear fallout across the European Union.
As for what happens with Russia in 2025 when they're barely exporting any hydrocarbons at all? Who cares. That's their business.

I look at this on a daily basis—it seems pretty obvious to people here in the West why fossil fuel prices spiked in the first place: it was Putin's invasion.



Moscow was banking on these price hikes triggering mass protests (think a new wave of Yellow Vests) and general chaos across the West, hoping politicians would cave quickly just to avoid an angry electorate. Instead, what we're seeing is people in every neighborhood pooling money and supplies for Ukraine; you walk down any street and see Ukrainian flags everywhere...

It’s a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of autocrats—they seem to operate under the assumption that democracies are inherently weak...

Gerald Chavez7 said:actually 2027 😉

Especially regarding gas, since it's nearly impossible for them to make up for those lost exports to the European Union. They just don't have the pipeline capacity to theoretically export to China instead.

True, the sanctions are gutting Russia's ability to intervene—whether in Ukraine or anywhere else globally.

I look at this on a daily basis—it seems pretty obvious to people here in the West why fossil fuel prices spiked in the first place: it was Putin's invasion.



Moscow was banking on these price hikes triggering mass protests (think a new wave of Yellow Vests) and general chaos across the West, hoping politicians would cave quickly just to avoid an angry electorate. Instead, what we're seeing is people in every neighborhood pooling money and supplies for Ukraine; you walk down any street and see Ukrainian flags everywhere...

It’s a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of autocrats—they seem to operate under the assumption that democracies are inherently weak...

Alright, this link you shared is a bit more current. I was digging through the REPowerEU: Joint European Action for more affordable , Secure and sustainable Energy document, where it states:

Quote : Phasing out Our dependenca on fossil fuels fra Russia Can be Dona well before 2030 iako pisati well before 2030

Even though it mentions well before 2030, the specific individual initiatives within the text set 2030 as the actual deadline.

Michael Ortiz68 said:Alright, this link you shared is a bit more current. I was digging through the REPowerEU: Joint European Action for more affordable , Secure and sustainable Energy document, where it states:

Quote : Phasing out Our dependenca on fossil fuels fra Russia Can be Dona well before 2030 iako pisati well before 2030

Even though it mentions well before 2030, the specific individual initiatives within the text set 2030 as the actual deadline.

Keep in mind REPowerEU is just a proposal—the Commission must finalize specific actions by mid-May—but we're generally looking at 2027. That’s pretty dramatic, honestly. We went from some imaginary 2050 target (back before Feb 24th) to a deadline that's less than five years away. And let's be real—an 80-90% drop is basically an overnight elimination.

Here in Munich, I watched diesel drop from $3.65 down to $3.45 overnight.😉👍
I’m fully expecting to see prices hitting the low $3 range within five days... and yet, our government keeps promising us even more relief. For heaven's sake, give us a break already!🤣

Best regards,

Nestlé is pulling back its product lineup in Russia.

According to Fox News, Nestlé just announced they’re halting sales for several of their most iconic brands in Russia, including KitKat and Nesquik. The company made it clear they have no intention of turning a profit or paying taxes in that country anymore, though they’ve stated they will keep paying their local employees on the ground.

As they announced over the weekend, they aren't walking away from everything entirely; they plan to continue providing essential goods, such as baby formula and medical nutrition.

George Robinson43 said:Why would they announce something that has only been agreed upon rather than officially signed?

I mean, maybe this falls under that category of preliminary discussions, you know, like a letter of intent regarding cooperation. Honestly, human rights have to take a backseat this time around. It reminds me of what one geopolitical expert once pointed out... pay attention here: a Saudi prince orders the execution of nearly 100 people, and guess who shows up shortly after? Yep, a former U.S. President.

Cahit;91717267 said:I don't think anyone imposing sanctions actually believes Putin will be toppled because of them. That's not the end goal; it's more of a potential side effect. The real objective is to economically bleed Russia dry over the long haul, especially since their entire military machine and economy rely heavily on exporting energy to the European Union. If anyone thinks Russia can just pivot their exports elsewhere overnight and maintain the same revenue levels, they clearly haven't looked at the actual numbers[/QUOTE]

But then what? If Russia collapses, what happens next? Isn't it arguably more dangerous to have nuclear warheads up for sale than it is to have oil on the market?

Morgan Morales4 said:It seems "Putinophile" is just the label thrown at anyone who dares to step outside the mainstream media narrative for even a second.
Germany knows exactly what they're doing; the issue is that certain people, like in Poland, expect them to act differently. Meanwhile, the media keeps attacking Viktor Orbán because he won't solve the crisis by forcing Canadian standards onto everyone else. I'm talking about the reality of potentially seeing up to 8 million new residents entering the European Union.

Are you suggesting those 8 million refugees you mentioned are a direct result of sanctions?

Just asking for a close friend of mine.

I really hope the energy planners over at the Department of Energy have a broader perspective on this and aren't just letting their emotions drive the bus.

In no world should we be looking at any scenario where we just write Russia out of the equation for the American energy landscape, and honestly, making that same mistake with other major suppliers would be just as reckless. We need to keep our energy routes wide open to everyone so we don't end up stuck in some pathetic situation where we're totally dependent on just one single source.

I think I read somewhere—or maybe I just heard it during a late-night scroll—that the actual energy content in finished products is way lower now than it was a few decades back. I’m betting that trend is only going to get stronger. If you factor in all this green energy stuff moving in, we’re heading toward a point where gas and oil won't even be the big players in heavy industry anymore.

But if you want my honest opinion, what actually keeps me up at night is the idea of the US and its entire political machine being completely purged of Russian influence, those bought-off politicians, and all those sleeper agents lurking around. That’s gotta be the number one priority.

I honestly can't even deal with some of you people right now. I was scrolling through the threads earlier and saw what Brenda Murphy3 had to say, and my blood pressure just spiked. Like, are we actually serious? It feels like every time I turn around, someone is trying to twist the facts or just straight-up ignore common sense. It’s exhausting. I try to stay level-headed—really, I do—but when the logic is this flawed, I just have to speak up. We need to start having actual, coherent conversations instead of just shouting nonsense into the void. It's not that hard to follow the reasoning if you actually put in the effort. Anyway, rant over. For now. kaže:
Maybe we’re looking at some kind of preliminary discussions here, or whatever... I don't know. It feels like things are just starting to get moving, but honestly, who knows where this is actually headed? I can see exactly where they're going with this "partnership" nonsense. It’s pretty obvious what their real intentions are. Look, sometimes human rights protection just has to take a backseat. It’s harsh, I know, but let's be real about how the world actually works. I was reading this take from a geopolitical expert the other day, and they hit the nail on the head. They basically said, "Pay attention: a Saudi prince orders the execution of nearly 100 people, and guess who shows up to shake hands just a moment later?" Yep, the President of the United States. It's all about the optics and the interests, isn't it? Sometimes you have to look the other way to get things done.

So, let's say it actually happens. Let's say Russia finally goes belly up. What then? Seriously, what's the endgame here? Everyone's talking about it like it's some kind of magic fix, but nobody ever stops to ask what the actual fallout looks like once the dust settles. We’re all just sitting here waiting for the big collapse, but if that giant house of cards actually falls, we've got a massive, unpredictable mess on our hands. Is it going to be total chaos, or just a different kind of headache? I'm genuinely curious because I feel like we're all just staring at the explosion without thinking about the debris. Is it just me, or is peddling nuclear warheads way more dangerous than selling off oil reserves? I mean, come on. You can always drill more oil or find a new supplier, but once those nukes start floating around the black market, there’s no hitting "undo" on that mistake. It's a whole different level of terrifying.

God, you just don't know when to quit, do you?😁

Look, let's be real—until Russia actually falls apart, we’re just spinning our wheels. We can talk all day long about what comes next, but why bother? We need to deal with one massive headache at a time. Once that whole situation collapses, then, and only then, can we start looking ahead to the next thing on the list. One problem at a time, people. That's how this works.😁

Morgan Morales4 said:I mean, maybe this falls under that category of preliminary discussions, you know, like a letter of intent regarding cooperation. Honestly, human rights have to take a backseat this time around. It reminds me of what one geopolitical expert once pointed out... pay attention here: a Saudi prince orders the execution of nearly 100 people, and guess who shows up shortly after? Yep, a former U.S. President.

First you get cancer, then the throat infection sets in.

The Kremlin is actually demanding that gas payments be made in rubles. 🤣🤣

USD/RUB 100.32

Nathan Evans78 said:The Kremlin is actually demanding that gas payments be made in rubles. 🤣🤣

USD/RUB 100.32

I can't say I'm surprised...

stormygardener15 said:I really hope the energy planners over at the Department of Energy have a broader perspective on this and aren't just letting their emotions drive the bus.

In no world should we be looking at any scenario where we just write Russia out of the equation for the American energy landscape, and honestly, making that same mistake with other major suppliers would be just as reckless. We need to keep our energy routes wide open to everyone so we don't end up stuck in some pathetic situation where we're totally dependent on just one single source.

I think I read somewhere—or maybe I just heard it during a late-night scroll—that the actual energy content in finished products is way lower now than it was a few decades back. I’m betting that trend is only going to get stronger. If you factor in all this green energy stuff moving in, we’re heading toward a point where gas and oil won't even be the big players in heavy industry anymore.

But if you want my honest opinion, what actually keeps me up at night is the idea of the US and its entire political machine being completely purged of Russian influence, those bought-off politicians, and all those sleeper agents lurking around. That’s gotta be the number one priority.

That second bolded point is directly tied to the first—once you don't have the pipelines, you don't have former chancellors sitting on your boards...

Fossil fuels were already on a long-term decline anyway. This whole situation just shifted the focus toward current suppliers for a moment; electrification—between nuclear and renewables—will handle the rest.

Nathan Evans78 said:The Kremlin is actually demanding that gas payments be made in rubles. 🤣🤣

USD/RUB 100.32

Next he'll probably explain how he plans to settle the bill in cash...

stormygardener15 said:I really hope the energy planners over at the Department of Energy have a broader perspective on this and aren't just letting their emotions drive the bus.

In no world should we be looking at any scenario where we just write Russia out of the equation for the American energy landscape, and honestly, making that same mistake with other major suppliers would be just as reckless. We need to keep our energy routes wide open to everyone so we don't end up stuck in some pathetic situation where we're totally dependent on just one single source.

I think I read somewhere—or maybe I just heard it during a late-night scroll—that the actual energy content in finished products is way lower now than it was a few decades back. I’m betting that trend is only going to get stronger. If you factor in all this green energy stuff moving in, we’re heading toward a point where gas and oil won't even be the big players in heavy industry anymore.

But if you want my honest opinion, what actually keeps me up at night is the idea of the US and its entire political machine being completely purged of Russian influence, those bought-off politicians, and all those sleeper agents lurking around. That’s gotta be the number one priority.

It seems like that's exactly what we're seeing with the current push for de-Russification through trade restrictions and sanctions.