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Participants Samuel Turner2Drew Gonzalez5mistyotter35Morgan PetersonmistybisonDavid Mendoza4silentviper8Grace Edwards
Samuel Turner2 Samuel Turner2 Active MemberOP
50 messages
joined May 2023
#1 ·
Is there any way to dial back how sensitive the moderators are being? 😁
Basically, they’re just locking threads for no reason at all:

http://www.exampleforum.com/showpost.php?p=8...postcount=9775
Drew Gonzalez5 Drew Gonzalez5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2023
#2 ·
Seriously though, what kind of criteria is a moderator using to decide what counts as off-topic in a thread about "Conspiracy theory"... and what does "off-topic" even mean at this point?
I mean, if we're going to nitpick everything, then any topic could be considered off-topic—which means they could just lock any thread they want, especially when it involves a "conspiracy theory."

What would even qualify as off-topic in philosophy or sex threads? You'd probably end up getting locked out every other day. It’s just terrible moderation, honestly.
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
113 messages
joined Mar 2013
#3 ·
I suppose they just manufacture their own problems through biased moderation, and then, once people inevitably start complaining, they just lock the thread and shut everyone out. It’s an old pattern we've seen before. I guess that's why I tend to steer clear of those "sensitive" topics altogether.
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#4 ·
Off-topic posts are nothing more than mindless drivel designed purely to provoke; when people start clamoring for the reinstatement of permanently banned users, they are completely missing the point. None of this nonsense has anything to do with a single conspiracy theory, nor does it bear any relation to the coronavirus.
Moving forward, if you have grievances regarding the moderation team, I suggest you direct all your complaints here.
mistybison mistybison Regular
495 messages
joined Aug 2008
#5 ·
I believe the main issue with the 'Coronavirus' subforum is its lack of a clear direction. It sits in this awkward middle ground—neither strictly serious nor purely casual. You can't mix high-level medical discussions with random conspiracy theories; those two things just don't belong in the same space. If the goal is to have a professional forum, it should be managed with the same rigor as our 'Health' or 'Natural Sciences' sections. We already have a dedicated spot for conspiracy theory discussions over in 'Alternative,' though the users there aren't quite as aggressive as those currently occupying the 'Coronavirus' section. Then again, social media today seems to prioritize clicks above all else, and unfortunately, nonsense tends to generate the most engagement, so... 🤷
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2007
#6 ·
Morgan Peterson said:Off-topic posts are nothing more than mindless drivel designed purely to provoke; when people start clamoring for the reinstatement of permanently banned users, they are completely missing the point. None of this nonsense has anything to do with a single conspiracy theory, nor does it bear any relation to the coronavirus.
Moving forward, if you have grievances regarding the moderation team, I suggest you direct all your complaints here.

Alright, so Mr. Beam had a question for the mod team, and I just decided to follow up with a question for another user.
I know it might be a little out of line, but I really don't see how I was being provocative or rude like you claimed later on.
Our posts were wiped clean, and we didn't even get an answer to our questions.
Plus, the whole thread got locked after only about two hours (was it really because of those three posts?)

Was all that drama actually necessary?
silentviper8 silentviper8 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2021
#7 ·
It feels like some people are treating this whole discussion like a life-or-death battle, obsessing over proving the other side wrong—which is pretty pointless in an online space. The forum rules are straightforward: don't comment on the moderation, except right here.

If someone’s takes or posts are getting under your skin, just hit the ignore button. If we’re all about "freedom of speech," then everyone deserves that right.

A little politeness and self-control wouldn't hurt anyone.

Morgan Peterson, any chance you can reopen the thread soon? 🎉
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2007
#8 ·
silentviper8 said:It feels like some people are treating this whole discussion like a life-or-death battle, obsessing over proving the other side wrong—which is pretty pointless in an online space. The forum rules are straightforward: don't comment on the moderation, except right here.

If someone’s takes or posts are getting under your skin, just hit the ignore button. If we’re all about "freedom of speech," then everyone deserves that right.

A little politeness and self-control wouldn't hurt anyone.

Morgan Peterson, any chance you can reopen the thread soon? 🎉

It's back up!
silentviper8 silentviper8 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2021
#9 ·
David Mendoza4 said:It's back up!

Great. In that case, I'll just ask everyone to try and refrain from the constant bickering and jumping down each other's throats.

Like I said—there's always an ignore list if you need it. 🙂
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2007
#10 ·
silentviper8;87080631 said:That’s great, so I’d just love to ask everyone on all sides to please hold off on the bickering and the (totally unnecessary) jumping down each other's throats.

Like I said—there's always an ignore list if that makes things any easier for you guys. 🙂[/QUO

Honestly, I don't feel like I need to put anyone on ignore, and I definitely don't see myself as someone who goes looking for drama.
If anything, I'm the type to steer clear of conflict, and I think I've already made my side of this situation pretty clear.
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#11 ·
mistybison said:I believe the main issue with the 'Coronavirus' subforum is its lack of a clear direction. It sits in this awkward middle ground—neither strictly serious nor purely casual. You can't mix high-level medical discussions with random conspiracy theories; those two things just don't belong in the same space. If the goal is to have a professional forum, it should be managed with the same rigor as our 'Health' or 'Natural Sciences' sections. We already have a dedicated spot for conspiracy theory discussions over in 'Alternative,' though the users there aren't quite as aggressive as those currently occupying the 'Coronavirus' section. Then again, social media today seems to prioritize clicks above all else, and unfortunately, nonsense tends to generate the most engagement, so... 🤷

I follow your logic, yet I find myself questioning whether such an ideal is even attainable.
The crux of the matter regarding the coronavirus is that we are navigating a global pandemic—a phenomenon that serves as a defining precedent of our era and remains largely unprecedented in human history.
Because of this, we are all essentially stumbling through the dark, attempting to investigate, listen, and place our trust in whoever appears most credible to us personally. Consequently, moderating this specific forum is an entirely different beast compared to something like 'Health'; so much information surrounding the virus remains incomplete, unverified, or misinterpreted, and the "facts" seem to shift almost daily.
Consider, for instance, how certain ideas once labeled as conspiracy theory have transitioned from speculation into lived reality, much like the implementation of vaccine mandates. For that reason, we don't penalize users for their convictions or for making predictions that might sound far-fetched, provided they aren't engaging in direct insults or violating the basic rules of forum etiquette.
As for the constant battle against trolls, that is a struggle we face across every single board on this site. This corner of the internet is no exception, and I highly doubt that simply raising the bar for "seriousness" would change the underlying nature of the discourse.
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
184 messages
joined May 2023
#12 ·
silentviper8 said:Great. In that case, I'll just ask everyone to try and refrain from the constant bickering and jumping down each other's throats.

Like I said—there's always an ignore list if you need it. 🙂

Wait, how are you even supposed to put a moderator on ignore? 🤔
silentviper8 silentviper8 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2021
#13 ·
Grace Edwards said:Wait, how are you even supposed to put a moderator on ignore? 🤔


I was talking about other users—the ones you actually argue with. 😁
As far as I'm concerned, the mod is just okay. Neither great nor terrible, just somewhere in the middle. We've gone back and forth in discussions a few times, and she’s never once pulled the "I'm above you" card, which is actually pretty decent.

I've spent enough time on various boards to see much worse—mods who act like they're some kind of gods, trust me. ☕
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#14 ·
David Mendoza4 said:Alright, so Mr. Beam had a question for the mod team, and I just decided to follow up with a question for another user.
I know it might be a little out of line, but I really don't see how I was being provocative or rude like you claimed later on.
Our posts were wiped clean, and we didn't even get an answer to our questions.
Plus, the whole thread got locked after only about two hours (was it really because of those three posts?)

Was all that drama actually necessary?

I removed those posts because they were entirely off-topic.
The reality is that the user in question has been permanently banned for reasons known perfectly well to both him and the site administration.
While I realize you might miss his presence, I saw no indication that he filed an appeal, and since our forum rules dictate that individuals must advocate for themselves, calling for an amnesty is completely pointless unless he makes the request himself—and even then, only if he chooses to.
Only at that point could we discuss the matter, and strictly within this space, not in the coronavirus PDF thread.

I didn't shut down the thread because of your three messages, but rather because of the ten or more deleted, purely inflammatory, off-topic posts that some users continued to spam even after I issued a warning.
I sincerely hope we can put this to rest now—not for my sake, but for the sake of those of you who actually want to use that space for its intended purpose.
mistybison mistybison Regular
495 messages
joined Aug 2008
#15 ·
Morgan Peterson said:I follow your logic, yet I find myself questioning whether such an ideal is even attainable.
The crux of the matter regarding the coronavirus is that we are navigating a global pandemic—a phenomenon that serves as a defining precedent of our era and remains largely unprecedented in human history.
Because of this, we are all essentially stumbling through the dark, attempting to investigate, listen, and place our trust in whoever appears most credible to us personally. Consequently, moderating this specific forum is an entirely different beast compared to something like 'Health'; so much information surrounding the virus remains incomplete, unverified, or misinterpreted, and the "facts" seem to shift almost daily.
Consider, for instance, how certain ideas once labeled as conspiracy theory have transitioned from speculation into lived reality, much like the implementation of vaccine mandates. For that reason, we don't penalize users for their convictions or for making predictions that might sound far-fetched, provided they aren't engaging in direct insults or violating the basic rules of forum etiquette.
As for the constant battle against trolls, that is a struggle we face across every single board on this site. This corner of the internet is no exception, and I highly doubt that simply raising the bar for "seriousness" would change the underlying nature of the discourse.

Not at all... I wish you all the best. 🙂

I truly admire your patience in reading through all that nonsense copied from various American news sites. 😁
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#16 ·
Grace Edwards said:Wait, how are you even supposed to put a moderator on ignore? 🤔

🤣
But honestly, I empathize; there are days when I feel like putting my own self on ignore. It’s just one of those things.
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2007
#17 ·
mistybison said:Not at all... I wish you all the best. 🙂

I truly admire your patience in reading through all that nonsense copied from various American news sites. 😁

It’s mostly just garbage pulled from mainstream media outlets, maybe a quote from some Nobel laureate, or some former Pfizer VP, or even a random lawsuit or court ruling thrown in there to make it look legit. It's all just total nonsense.
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2007
#18 ·
Morgan Peterson said:I removed those posts because they were entirely off-topic.
The reality is that the user in question has been permanently banned for reasons known perfectly well to both him and the site administration.
While I realize you might miss his presence, I saw no indication that he filed an appeal, and since our forum rules dictate that individuals must advocate for themselves, calling for an amnesty is completely pointless unless he makes the request himself—and even then, only if he chooses to.
Only at that point could we discuss the matter, and strictly within this space, not in the coronavirus PDF thread.

I didn't shut down the thread because of your three messages, but rather because of the ten or more deleted, purely inflammatory, off-topic posts that some users continued to spam even after I issued a warning.
I sincerely hope we can put this to rest now—not for my sake, but for the sake of those of you who actually want to use that space for its intended purpose.

Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up.
I'm just hoping nothing is set in stone and that if he ever decides he wants to come back, he'll be allowed to.

To be honest, he was one of the more active and sharpest folks on here (for anyone wondering—he went by Selfie), and he wasn't afraid to push back against the official narrative, so I truly hope there wasn't any bias involved—even if it was unintentional, because things can get messy when a moderator leans too hard toward one side. Just saying, if there's any way at all to get that permanent ban lifted, you've got my vote.

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