Stalin wasn't entirely wrong...

...that's what the Democrats in Germany claimed they would do back in the 21st century, and look at the mess they've made now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7196389.stm

Once we finally dealt with the hazardous waste and those dangerous industrial sectors, wasn't it inevitable that we'd eventually have to face the danger posed by the people running the show?

A prison sentence for a delinquent. 😂

Jerry Maguire belongs in jail... 🤣

Richard Wilson4 said:Jerry Maguire belongs in jail... 🤣

In ten years, everyone from Siberia to Alaska will be chanting: "The glory of LA Galaxy..."
And then they'll all start performing striptease in -50° weather. 🤣🤣

Housing in Siberia apparently costs the government $220 a day—that’s roughly a third of what it would cost to house a kid in a juvenile facility over in Germany.

That's a lot of cash. If the Americans are smart, they'll turn it into a business. Especially since those "re-education" camps probably still have plenty of "expertise" left over from the good old days...

Dana Robinson4 said:...that's what the Democrats in Germany claimed they would do back in the 21st century, and look at the mess they've made now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7196389.stm

Once we finally dealt with the hazardous waste and those dangerous industrial sectors, wasn't it inevitable that we'd eventually have to face the danger posed by the people running the show?

What kind of "objects" are we even talking about here—do you actually know who or what this refers to? I'm talking about wild, reckless, and incredibly aggressive teenagers and young adults.

Personally, I think it would be a relief if something similar happened here in America; I feel like maybe 60% of our youth need to be sent to a mandatory bootcamp just to learn the basic principles of order, discipline, and how decent citizens actually behave. I suppose we will probably be discussing this in the States in a few years—you'll see—because it’s going to become absolutely necessary, given the current rates of juvenile delinquency and the very real possibility that these kids could turn into hardened criminals.

Look, I’m certainly not advocating against a firm hand when it comes to discipline, but if my child needs a lesson learned, I’d much rather be the one to deliver it myself instead of paying some stranger to step in and strike my kid on my behalf. I know we live in this hyper-connected, globalized world, but isn't there a line that shouldn't be crossed? It feels truly twisted, doesn't it? Can you even imagine if the US government suddenly announced, "We're getting rid of the local police force because they've become too expensive," or decided to start outsourcing all our prisoners to Mexico or Morocco just to save a buck?

I’m pretty sure they’re just doing this with those kids' blessing so they can get their sentences handed down even further.
I highly doubt there's any actual support for this in the German Constitution or the legal code, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.

The current system of juvenile detention centers and reformatories just isn't working. For far too many kids, these places act more like finishing schools for a life of crime. There are exceptions, sure, but they're rare.

Strict camps, military-style training, real discipline—that’s what would actually move the needle.
At the end of the day, I think we all want productive citizens, not career criminals.

To be clear, I'm not calling for Stalinist labor camps or anything of the sort. I'm talking about a controlled environment for these reckless teenagers. Take those hooligans who went on a rampage through the suburbs of Phoenix, for example; they should be sent to a camp like that for a month or two. A legitimate military-style drill would probably do a lot more for those hotheaded kids than a string of misdemeanor charges and fines that clearly change nothing.

Dana Robinson4 said:Look, I’m certainly not advocating against a firm hand when it comes to discipline, but if my child needs a lesson learned, I’d much rather be the one to deliver it myself instead of paying some stranger to step in and strike my kid on my behalf. I know we live in this hyper-connected, globalized world, but isn't there a line that shouldn't be crossed? It feels truly twisted, doesn't it? Can you even imagine if the US government suddenly announced, "We're getting rid of the local police force because they've become too expensive," or decided to start outsourcing all our prisoners to Mexico or Morocco just to save a buck?

Honestly, if you look at certain parenting styles common in parts of America, it is heartbreaking. You see parents justifying their children's violent outbursts as if they were perfectly normal; they refuse to seek professional help even when the child is clearly spiraling out of control. They basically wash their hands of the situation, let the kids do whatever they want, and then shrug it off by saying, "Well, other families have difficult kids too, and they aren't doing anything about it." It feels like everyone is just waiting for a tragedy to happen—for someone to get killed or beaten to death—only for the perpetrator to end up serving forty years in an American prison.🙄
A little physical discipline doesn't really amount to much if the foundational upbringing wasn't there to begin with. In my view, the only thing that truly makes a difference is something like those intensive summer camps, regardless of where they are located.

Perhaps parents ought to consider the impact they have on society at large, rather than focusing solely on themselves and finding ways to excuse their own negligence or lack of effort. They should perhaps allow the state—much like how they are planning things over in Germany—to step in and try to repair the damage done to a human being who is now essentially programmed to spend their life fighting, hitting, and destroying others.

Honestly, their punishment should just be seizing their PC and Xbox and forcing them to sit there watching a live broadcast of Congress.🙂

frozenheron25 said:Honestly, their punishment should just be seizing their PC and Xbox and forcing them to sit there watching a live broadcast of Congress.🙂

Now you've gone too far; you wouldn't wish that on your worst enemy! 🤣

Honestly, I’ve been thinking about the next big rivalry game between the Lakers and the Celtics. It feels like we need a different approach entirely. What if we just had both sets of hardcore ultras surrounded by a massive police cordon, loaded them straight into transport buses, and dropped them off at the exact same spot?

James Nguyen13 said:Honestly, I’ve been thinking about the next big rivalry game between the Lakers and the Celtics. It feels like we need a different approach entirely. What if we just had both sets of hardcore ultras surrounded by a massive police cordon, loaded them straight into transport buses, and dropped them off at the exact same spot?

Spot on.

It seems like the kleptocrats are just going to keep ruling over an oblivious public, since for centuries now, the elite have basically been selling smoke to people while keeping them distracted with nothing but trivial side issues...

Noah Barrett13 said:Spot on.

It seems like the kleptocrats are just going to keep ruling over an oblivious public, since for centuries now, the elite have basically been selling smoke to people while keeping them distracted with nothing but trivial side issues...

The thing is, you can't really blame them for staying stuck in that loop. You've got these disorganized, aggressive types who end up clashing and hating one another without even understanding the root cause. It's like seeing people out in the freezing cold, acting completely irrational, just venting frustration blindly. If someone falls into that trap of being easily manipulated, then that's just the reality of the situation.

James Nguyen13 said:The thing is, you can't really blame them for staying stuck in that loop. You've got these disorganized, aggressive types who end up clashing and hating one another without even understanding the root cause. It's like seeing people out in the freezing cold, acting completely irrational, just venting frustration blindly. If someone falls into that trap of being easily manipulated, then that's just the reality of the situation.

Those are some pretty heavy words, man... pretty heavy indeed.

James Nguyen13 said:The thing is, you can't really blame them for staying stuck in that loop. You've got these disorganized, aggressive types who end up clashing and hating one another without even understanding the root cause. It's like seeing people out in the freezing cold, acting completely irrational, just venting frustration blindly. If someone falls into that trap of being easily manipulated, then that's just the reality of the situation.

😂 Preach! It's all just high, drunk hippies and freeloaders—I’d love to send the whole lot off to a "re-education" camp. Left, right, left, right... marching in time! Let's go, boys!
Whoops, got a little carried away there 😁just

They might be the mindless mob, but you're clearly some highly educated piece of trash yourself, aren't you?

So, how would you define "educated trash"? Is it basically just an old, broken-down refrigerator with a college degree?

Noah Barrett13 said:Those are some pretty heavy words, man... pretty heavy indeed.

Question:

What do we do about these fans who pulled those stunts back in Sedona?
Can we actually call this a systemic issue?

Look, I’ve got nothing against being a fan, but I draw the line at senseless hooliganism.
Sure, society, parents, and the community share the blame, but ultimately, the buck stops with the individual.

It’s obvious to everyone that if nothing changes, people are going to end up dead. That’s exactly what happened in Italy.

The tragedy is twofold. Someone ends up in a cemetery, and someone else ends up behind bars.
Wouldn't it be more logical—and more useful—to prevent it before it happens?

In this post, I'm specifically talking about hooligan-style fans. Of course, youth delinquency is rising in all walks of life. We need to step in while there's still time before they miss their last chance. I think something like intensive mentorship camps could work. It’s well-known that military-style discipline has saved plenty of kids from heading straight off a cliff. These young people need structure. When you're between 16 and 20, you're on your last shot at getting it right.

I honestly think we’re running into trouble because we’ve become way too pacifistic. If you look at history, men have been hunters for hundreds of thousands of years, and for the last couple of millennia, they’ve been warriors—warfare has been a constant. That drive for aggression has been baked into our DNA for ages. You can't just expect a group of young guys to suddenly be perfectly calibrated for a totally pacified society; they basically have all this built-in energy that needs an outlet. It's not even about being violent, it's just how they're wired.
That’s why, in my view, things like this aren't necessarily a bad thing. Personally, I’d almost prefer seeing them deployed to somewhere like Afghanistan; they’d actually have the chance to prove their courage and heroism to their heart's content.