The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

Thomas Morales8 said:If anyone actually had any backbone, they’d just come out and say they fully support Russia and Putin 👍

But clearly, nobody does... #cowards

It's not like the Russians put him in office or anything 🙄

So why on earth would he risk his neck for them?

Rachel Allen55 said:Check out what's happening in southern Ukraine—hardly anyone’s even reporting on it. They’ve basically taken everything. I think it's just Miami left.

Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling Zelensky is playing the wrong hand here. Is he just performing for the press corps in Kyiv? Who knows, but that’s how it looks to me.

Purely from a military standpoint, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance against Russia. The West isn't going to risk a nuclear war with Russia, so all this money being sent is probably just ending up in some guys' pockets.

To me, the only way out is a Korea-style solution.

A tiny slice of Western Ukraine stays pro-West, and the rest goes pro-Russia. Honestly, I think Putin might actually bite on that.

🤦🤦🤦

Either start dropping links to actual news or don't post this kind of nonsense.
Saying "I think" isn't news, especially when it contradicts basically every other report stating that the front line is still hanging out near Kherson.

rowdypilot53 said:Why does everyone keep bringing up nukes? No one is actually going to drop them over Ukraine—not the Russians, not anyone else. Honestly, how is this any different from what happened in Iraq or Libya? Maybe it's just because the Ukrainians look like us, or because they're part of the West and a democracy, so we feel more empathy and are even willing to take in refugees. International law is mostly a myth; superpowers simply do whatever suits their interests unless another superpower stops them. It’s strange that people are acting so surprised now...

It isn't that great powers won't stop these "interventions." Rather, they often let them play out, allowing opponents to bleed out slowly—effectively weakening them in the long run. That is why targets are almost always tiny nations; they can be crushed quickly with minimal casualties. It seems to me that Putin miscalculated. He attacked a major power, and the resistance won't be insignificant. Even if he achieves his aims, the losses will be massive, even by Russian standards. We live in the 21st century now; the value placed on human life is different than it was 80 or 100 years ago.

velvetmason14 said:Two days ago, Srna said this: Darijo Srna: Ukraine is like a second home to me, there's no way I'm leaving.

Fast forward to today, and here is the update: Srna and Vukojević have left Kyiv.

I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions.

What are we supposed to conclude here—that Russia ramped up their offensive, or that these guys just lack backbone?🤔

Rachel Allen55 said:Check out what's happening in southern Ukraine—hardly anyone’s even reporting on it. They’ve basically taken everything. I think it's just Miami left.

Maybe I'm off base, but I get the feeling Zelensky is playing the wrong hand here. Is he just performing for the press corps in Kyiv? Who knows, but that’s how it looks to me.

Purely from a military standpoint, Ukraine doesn't stand a chance against Russia. The West isn't going to risk a nuclear war with Russia, so all this money being sent is probably just ending up in some guys' pockets.

To me, the only way out is a Korea-style solution.

A tiny slice of Western Ukraine stays pro-West, and the rest goes pro-Russia. Honestly, I think Putin might actually bite on that.

"EVERYTHING"

Either you have a serious problem with drawing conclusions, or you're just blatantly lying.

They haven't taken Kherson, Mariupol, Odessa, or Mykolaiv. Not even close.

Literally the only thing they've supposedly captured is Melitopol, which is the smallest one on the list...

Carl Lee27 said:I have to say, I'm feeling pretty strongly that they actually *do* care about the timeline, especially seeing how much they've been hammering Kyiv lately. Just look at that whole paratrooper operation near New York City—that was clearly supposed to kick the doors wide open for their armored units so they could quickly set up some kind of puppet government.
The way things are playing out now, though, it looks more and more like they're headed straight for a brutal war of attrition.

Looks like Putin is calling the shots himself instead of letting generals run things from a desk.
Right now, Kyiv is the whole game—it's everything for the Ukrainians.

I’m just not sure if all this massive weaponry being sent over to the Ukrainians is actually going to make a difference. Since Russia basically has total control over both land and air right now—I mean, they've got such a grip on the situation—I can't help but worry. It feels like maybe they'll just end up seizing all that gear for themselves.

gentleharbor3 said:Sure, but Macron's idea regarding European strategic autonomy
only works on paper.
In reality, there are deep divides between Eastern and Western Europe
and massive, almost irreconcilable differences that have caused the EU to fail
to provide a unified or effective response to a single crisis so far.
So, despite the fact that America has acted arrogant
toward Europe—from Syria and Afghanistan all the way to the recent AUKUS deal
— this specific war in Ukraine will give NATO
a new raison d'être and further blind Europe to its dependence on the USA.

It's fine, they've totally screwed us over and we're feeling it deep down.😉

Check out this video—it really captures how fed up Ukrainian civilians are with the Russian invasion and just how ready they are to fight back. There’s even a captured Russian kid in there after they took out his vehicle. Way to go, Ukraine—Putin is going to have a very hard time breaking you!

Betty Carter3 said:That’s incorrect. The Republican Party doesn't win elections simply because voters like them; it's due to much more complex factors.
Furthermore, those who actually turn out to vote represent only a small fraction of the American people.

The Quisling-style Ukrainian government, which exists because of a violent coup, has nothing to do with democracy.

Ah, "complex factors," is it?👍
I see. It seems your understanding of history begins at the Maidan; you were probably just a child when the Russians poisoned Viktor Yanukovych.
In the Ukrainian presidential election, voter turnout was 63%, yet the pro-Russian candidate Yuriy Boyko received a mere 12%. If you happen to possess any evidence suggesting the CIA rigged the results and that Yuriy Boyko actually enjoys widespread support among Americans, please, feel free to share it with us...

Rachel Allen55 can't even point to Ukraine on a map, let alone list a single city down south

Ethan Peterson4 said:What’s the latest from the Kyiv live cam?!? 🤔

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/webca...an-square.html

It feels strange to me too, especially since I've checked several of them and they all seem to show the exact same thing...

rape_artist said:Look, buddy, you might have missed the memo, but it’s freezing outside. They aren't exactly going to march against the guy keeping their radiators warm. Not if they want to avoid freezing to death...

There is a massive amount of misinformation circulating regarding the current situation. Ukrainians were celebrating those 13 poor souls who died without any connection to the actual conflict on that miserable island. The grim reality is that 82 of them perished...

Are you paying for that heating, or is it a gift? If you're footing the bill, there's no need to bow down; when you pay for natural gas, it belongs to you. You can go ahead and worship Putin if you find him charming or if his displays of force impress you, but at least be honest about it.
Those "poor souls" are dying for their country, for their freedom, and for their independence—so they won't have to bow to anyone else. It takes backbone to do that. We had that kind of spine thirty years ago, but our own domestic politics effectively lobotomized us right after the war, preventing us from ever standing tall again. Freedom was never cheap; we paid a heavy price for it, only to let it slip through our fingers far too easily... But that's a different story entirely.

Nancy Gomez26 said:In war and in love—there are no rules. Once the gunfire starts, the pleasantries end; you fight simply to survive. At that point, a deep trench and a bit of mud become your closest companions.
And you should definitely keep watching RT. They are—as completely unbiased as they come—surely the most objective source out there. When their founder—for absolutely no reason at all—launches armed attacks and stirs up trouble in another nation, they remain perfectly objective. Of course they do.

Exactly. Western media is just so incredibly objective.
What are Imbex and CNN saying? What's the situation?

silentfalcon3 said:It feels strange to me too, especially since I've checked several of them and they all seem to show the exact same thing...

I guess they finally grew a brain after that livestream went sideways.

loneviper4 said:It's not the time for bull****; at least let one major world power bypass us for once.☕

He messed up. I mean, look, there's zero sense in continuing negotiations in Minsk once Belarus has already invaded Ukraine. Vučić could have actually made a solid geopolitical move here.

Russia: Putin orders halt to offensive, but Ukrainians refuse to negotiate

The Kremlin claims that President Vladimir Putin ordered a pause in the offensive in Ukraine this past Friday—hoping for negotiations with Volodymyr Zelensky—but apparently, he told them to resume once those talks failed to materialize.

Government spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stated that operations continued into Saturday afternoon after the Ukrainian leadership rejected any dialogue, according to Reuters.

We are now entering the third day of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with fighting spreading across various cities beyond just the outskirts of Kyiv. There were reports yesterday regarding potential negotiations, though nothing has materialized so far.

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So the Ukrainians won't negotiate... while being invaded from Belarus!

Betty Carter3 said:Can someone please explain why—likely because it's a Jewish child—that specific detail was highlighted twice?

They’re basically aiming at those "American Jews" who run things here to help them out just like Israel gets helped,
BUT Israel actually serves a purpose for Americans, whereas Ukraine doesn't really have one other than the CIA being over there running some old-school divide and conquer tactics.

analogtrucker51 said:I’m just not sure if all this massive weaponry being sent over to the Ukrainians is actually going to make a difference. Since Russia basically has total control over both land and air right now—I mean, they've got such a grip on the situation—I can't help but worry. It feels like maybe they'll just end up seizing all that gear for themselves.

Russia has already gotten their hands on those British anti-tank systems. Honestly? Serves them right...

vividtiger72 said:And why on earth would you think Putin expected to conquer Ukraine in a matter of days? Did any actual Russian official ever make claims like that? As far as I can tell, it was only the Western experts who were telling Kyiv they had maybe two or three days left; the Russians always maintained they'd stay as long as it took.

They were the ones spreading propaganda saying there wouldn't be an invasion, and now they're hitting civilians.

Russia is going to pay dearly for this, though they won't even realize it because their own censorship will smother them, just like what happened in Cuba.

They've kicked off a war without an end in democratic nations. In a democracy, the state doesn't collapse just because the president falls down the stairs 😉—which is exactly how Russia would go down if Putin fell, much like Gaddafi, Stalin, Hitler, or Napoleon.