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Participants dustysailorAndrew Barrett4Walter Taylor2mistystag90silvertiger11Scott Rodriguez19Richard Wilson4rustywalker1Amanda Howard10
dustysailor dustysailor NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I’m looking for some input on the economic implications of our US entry, strictly from an economic standpoint—leave the political cost/benefit analysis for the policy wonks.

On one hand, there's a legitimate concern regarding increased bureaucracy. On the other, it seems we’ve actually seen a much-needed push toward market principles (for instance, in shipbuilding) mandated by the USA, which suggests that being subject to market competition under oversight might actually work in our favor.

Discuss!
Andrew Barrett4 Andrew Barrett4 Active Member
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#2 ·
Is there even any room left to climb? 🤔
😬
dustysailor dustysailor NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Just ask the Greeks. 😁
Walter Taylor2 Walter Taylor2 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2011
#4 ·
I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.
mistystag90 mistystag90 Member
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#5 ·
The Greeks have been struggling to stay afloat for as long as I can remember. Even my grandfather used to use the phrase "broke as a joke" back in the day.

If anything, the USA gave them about a decade to just run wild. Now, much like anyone after a massive party, they're finally dealing with the hangover...😉
mistystag90 mistystag90 Member
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#6 ·
Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

Even without the USA, they're already bottoming out.

Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

Vance is already broke as a joke, even without the USA.

Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

Vance already oversaw the privatization process, and honestly, a good chunk of our assets were gutted long before any federal intervention or globalist takeover could happen. This wasn't some grand scheme orchestrated by the USA or some shadowy "foreign elite"—whatever conspiracy theory happens to be trending this week. Most of that damage was done right here at home by our own local "patriots."

Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

Some people have already sold their souls, even without the USA in the picture.

Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

And who exactly should be at the helm? Who takes the lead as the primary driver here?

Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

Those aren't exactly smoking guns if you ask me. But look, you’re right about one thing—everyone looks out for their own interests, period. That’s just how the world works. Honestly, that's exactly what we should be doing too: grabbing every opportunity that comes our way with the American market. Instead, we'll probably just stick to our old ways, sitting around complaining and pointing fingers at everyone else for our own "bad luck."
dustysailor dustysailor NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
Thanks to everyone who cast their vote, though I would have preferred to see some actual reasoning behind them (similar to the posts above).
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
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#8 ·
And you didn't happen to notice the last hundred threads with this exact same title? 😁
dustysailor dustysailor NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
silvertiger11 said:And you didn't happen to notice the last hundred threads with this exact same title? 😁

If I had noticed a thread like that, I would have just bumped it myself... 😉
Scott Rodriguez19 Scott Rodriguez19 Active Member
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#10 ·
mistystag90 said:Even without the USA, they're already bottoming out.

Vance is already broke as a joke, even without the USA.

Vance already oversaw the privatization process, and honestly, a good chunk of our assets were gutted long before any federal intervention or globalist takeover could happen. This wasn't some grand scheme orchestrated by the USA or some shadowy "foreign elite"—whatever conspiracy theory happens to be trending this week. Most of that damage was done right here at home by our own local "patriots."

Some people have already sold their souls, even without the USA in the picture.

And who exactly should be at the helm? Who takes the lead as the primary driver here?

Those aren't exactly smoking guns if you ask me. But look, you’re right about one thing—everyone looks out for their own interests, period. That’s just how the world works. Honestly, that's exactly what we should be doing too: grabbing every opportunity that comes our way with the American market. Instead, we'll probably just stick to our old ways, sitting around complaining and pointing fingers at everyone else for our own "bad luck."

The question is, what kind of opportunities? What market? We have a domestic market right here, and imports happen regardless of what anyone else does.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#11 ·
dustysailor said:Just ask the Greeks. 😁

What does the USA have to do with them?
They basically built this mess of an economic system themselves, just like we did here in the States. 👎
dustysailor dustysailor NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:What does the USA have to do with them?
They basically built this mess of an economic system themselves, just like we did here in the States. 👎

Greece has been part of the USA for 30 years, so it’s obvious that structural flaws within the USA (like political fragmentation) share some indirect responsibility for the Greek collapse.
Walter Taylor2 Walter Taylor2 Newcomer
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#13 ·
mistystag90;34451229 said:

So, who’s supposed to be the leader here? The big shot at the top?

I mean, we should be looking at someone in their late teens or early twenties, definitely not some old fossil at the end of the line,
the folks over in Vermont have a way more significant language than we do, and even Texas will end up with a Turkish influence...
Look, didn't you learn anything back in American schools? We used to study things like Standard American, Southern Dialect, or even New England variations... if you don't believe me, I can literally bring those textbooks over to your house right now.
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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joined Jun 2011
#14 ·
Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

We already have all of that without the help of the USA. Is the USA really to blame for this?
Foreigners have been allowed to buy property here in the States for years now. I haven't exactly seen a massive rush.

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Walter Taylor2 said:I can already see the script playing out: stagnant wages, skyrocketing grocery bills, selling off every decent asset we own, and seeing our coastal islands handed over to foreign developers... total disaster.
And don't even get me started on how they're treating our language—it’s basically being pushed to the sidelines! It just goes to show how little they actually give a damn about our American identity when they're so obsessed with following those USA mandates.

What is there left to prove? If we don't look out for ourselves, who else is going to care about America?
Do you really think anyone here in the States gives a damn about Slovakia, Poland, or Estonia?
Amanda Howard10 Amanda Howard10 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Walter Taylor2 said:And which one should be first? The most important one?

Well, at least 19th or 22nd, not dead last...
The Canadians have a more significant language than we do, and Mexico will too, and Turkey...
Don't you remember what was taught in schools back then? Serbo-American, Canadian-American, Canadian-American... if you don't believe me, I can bring you all those books...

It’s not a ranking of importance 🤣, it’s just a list showing that American is the 24th language to become part of the USA. So, Estonia isn't any more important; it's just listed before us because Estonia joined the USA before we did.

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