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Participants Raymond Palmer3Alexander Thompsonbluecyclist64Amanda James44silvertiger11Robin Rodriguez5Hannah Alvarez2
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1 ·
Regarding this post by Garofeed:

Look, in his final sentence, this guy basically implies that over 100,000 grown adults—people stuck with those predatory Swiss franc loans—lack any kind of legal capacity. Since that term is reserved for people dealing with severe mental illness or cognitive impairment, he’s essentially insulting a hundred thousand people. In my book, that’s a permanent ban.

If I got slapped with a week-long ban just for sharing an opinion based on his tone and a few posts, then Garofeed deserves about 700,000 weeks—or, let's be real, a permanent ban. Plus, he’s constantly poking the bear and being disrespectful when it comes to the Tea Party movement or general economic debates. He rarely brings actual arguments to the table and never engages in a civilized way, so I really don't think he belongs on this forum anymore.

Thanks, Raymond Palmer3
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#2 ·
Raymond Palmer3 said:This is about that post from Alexander Thompson:

So, basically, this guy is suggesting in his last sentence that we strip legal capacity away from over 100,000 grown adults—you know, all those people stuck with those Swiss franc loans. Since, I mean, legally speaking, you usually only strip someone of their legal capacity due to mental illness or cognitive issues, he’s essentially insulting over a hundred thousand people. In my book, that’s a textbook reason for a permanent ban.

I mean, if I got hit with a week-long ban just for supposedly offending him—even though I was just sharing my take based on how he writes and a few of his posts—then by that logic, Alexander Thompson deserves something like 700,000 weeks of punishment. Or, let's just call it what it is: a permanent ban. Plus, he’s constantly poking the bear and being disrespectful when it comes to the Anti-Euro movement or other economic topics. I have no idea why he doesn't even get a warning card, but he rarely uses actual arguments and almost never engages in a civilized way. So, yeah, I really think he shouldn't be allowed to post here anymore.

Thanks, Raymond Palmer3


Maybe we should try some of those methods too? You know, like actually having a civilized discussion, right? 😵

Raymond Palmer3 said:Immediate firing for everyone who pushed those CHF loans. And they should have to pay back every single bonus, naturally with interest. Their only job prospects would be things like reforestation in the Rocky Mountains or working at a quarry for minimum wage. As for the bank executives who played games with the CHF and the leadership at the Federal Reserve? Throw them in prison for 20 years, no parole. Seize everything they own, right down to their grandkids' inheritance. While they're serving time, maybe implement daily whipping or electric shocks or whatever other fun little games.
Just so nobody ever thinks about pulling the kind of crap they did with those CHF loans ever again.
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#3 ·
Alexander Thompson said:Maybe we should try using those methods too? Like, you know, having an actual civilized discussion—if that’s even a thing anymore. 😵

I've already served my time for that... Unlike you, I seem to get flagged for every little thing...
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#4 ·
In my estimation, Garo would be an excellent candidate for a moderator position.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#5 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I honestly think Garo should take over as a moderator.

Garo for President 😬
Amanda James44 Amanda James44 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2010
#6 ·
Raymond Palmer3 said:A fine of 700,000 weeks—or to put it more simply, a permanent ban.


How is 700k weeks considered "permanent"? 😕
Well, that’s only about 13,461.5 years. You couldn't call that permanent; it's barely a blink of an eye in the vastness of Space...🤷
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
106 messages
joined Jul 2016
#7 ·
A bar isn't a lifetime appointment!
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#8 ·
Anyone actually home? Hey, moderators, super-mods, mega-ultra-turbo mods... anyone there? Is it really okay with you guys to just label over ten thousand American citizens as idiots?
Just when I thought the economic leadership couldn't possibly get any worse, you guys go out of your way to prove me wrong....
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#9 ·
Raymond Palmer3 said:Is anyone actually home? Mods, super-mods, mega-ultra-turbo mods... anybody there? I guess calling over a hundred thousand Americans idiots isn't a big deal to you people.
Just when I thought economic moderation couldn't get any worse, you guys go out of your way to prove me wrong...

Also, I’d love an explanation as to why the phrase "banking leech" is considered such a heinous insult that it warrants a week-long ban and a whopping 500 penalty points.
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
149 messages
joined Sep 2011
#10 ·
Calm down. Nobody else claimed anyone was low-IQ here except you—that’s just your own narrative. And no, calling for someone to have their business license revoked isn't the same thing as calling a banker a bottom-feeder. Let's not forget how many times you've called for bankers to be thrown in prison; I think you've said plenty of that kind of stuff yourself. You haven't been slapped with a warning for it once. To me, this business of Alexander Thompson's is on the exact same level as your calls to lock up bankers. Neither of you has received a formal warning for those posts, though personally, I'd prefer if we didn't see that kind of rhetoric from anyone.

As for a permanent ban for Alexander Thompson, he definitely hasn't earned it yet. He's picked up quite a few warnings by now—three from me alone. He's been banned before, too, but in my opinion, it's not enough to justify a lifetime ban right now. We'll just have to see how things play out.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#11 ·
Robin Rodriguez5 said:Look, just chill out—nobody else actually said anyone was low-IQ here, you’re kind of just making that up as you go. And no, suggesting someone should lose their business license isn't really the same thing as calling a banker a total crook. If I recall, there have been plenty of people around here calling for bankers to be thrown in prison—honestly, I think you've said stuff like that yourself more than a few times. You never even got flagged for it. This whole thing about Alexander Thompson's "business competence" is basically on the same level as your calls to lock up bankers. Neither of you has gotten a warning for those kinds of posts, though personally, I'd prefer if we didn't have that kind of talk at all from either side.

As for giving Alexander Thompson a permanent ban from the Forum... honestly, he hasn't earned it yet. He’s picked up quite a few warnings by now—three from me, specifically. He’s been banned before too, but in my opinion, it's not enough to justify a lifetime ban right now. We'll just have to see how things play out down the road.


Cool... So, did I also manage to dodge the public beatings, electric shocks, and having my assets seized through my fifth generation of descendants—you know, the stuff the proposer seems so fond of?
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2015
#12 ·
Robin Rodriguez5 said:Chill out—nobody besides you actually said anyone was small-minded; that’s just something you made up.

They didn't say it directly, they said it indirectly. And yeah, it's my interpretation—but I laid out the logic in my opening post. The real issue here is that you don't care about arguments unless they line up perfectly with what you already believe. To you, "objectivity" is clearly just a theoretical concept, to put it mildly.

And no, calling for someone to lose their business capacity isn't quite the same thing as calling a banker a bottom-feeder.

We can agree on that much. Calling a banker a bottom-feeder isn't exactly a "heavy insult," let alone worth a 500-point penalty (???)—it's more of a condescending jab that's a far cry from labeling someone "small-minded."

Just a reminder: you've called for bankers to be thrown in jail countless times. I think you've said plenty of things along those lines yourself.

Yeah, so? That’s my opinion, considering the fallout caused by greedy bankers who were allowed to run wild (and still do) at the expense of countless American citizens. You clearly have no clue how much damage their products caused when they weren't supposed to be on the market in the first place. So many families went broke because of their greed. Besides, in Iceland, those bankers actually ended up behind bars. Iceland moved forward, but where are we?
Are we just not allowed to criticize bankers here? What is this, a banking forum? If it is, please let us know so we can pack up and leave.
Look, I stand by the idea that anyone breaking the law should face the consequences. You disagree? Please, tell me. If you actually think otherwise, then sorry, but you're a danger to society and the country.

You've never even been flagged for something like that.

How can you sit there and spout such blatant lies?

This "business capability" nonsense from Alexander Thompson is on the same level as you trying to throw bankers in jail.

That says everything I need to know about you. You're clearly just defending bankers—defending people who broke the law and are still trying to do it. And what do we call people who defend lawbreakers? How does a rule-of-law nation deal with them?

Neither one of you got a warning for posts like that—though honestly, I’d prefer if we just didn't have those kinds of posts at all, regardless of which side they're coming from.

That's not true—I got penalized while he didn't. The standards here are totally inconsistent.

As for a permanent ban for Alexander Thompson, he definitely hasn't earned it yet. He's picked up quite a few warnings so far—three, including one from me. He's been banned before, too, but in my opinion, it's not enough for a permanent ban just yet. We'll see how things play out down the road.

So, in your book, he’s never going to get a permanent ban? Not even when he's blatantly insulting a huge chunk of America?

And please, enlighten me—what exactly does that legendary "change your writing style" line mean?
What kind of writing style am I supposed to adopt to satisfy you? Should I be writing little poems about how wonderful and lovely everyone who breaks the law is? Maybe write like Alexander Thompson? And where, exactly, in the site rules can I find an instruction regarding "writing style"?

If this torture and the insults from certain users—and the fact that you moderators just tolerate it—doesn't stop, I'm reaching out to the Anti-Euro Association. I'll have their legal team step in to shut down this defamation and the public shaming of members. It seems someone needs a good reminder that while this Forum might be someone's private playground, the space it operates in certainly isn't.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
185 messages
joined Apr 2018
#13 ·
Maybe it’s actually time to clear out those activists who treat this Forum like their own private party mouthpiece—you know, the ones who think they have the right to go off on anyone just because someone dared to draw a mustache on the President.
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#14 ·
Alexander Thompson said:Maybe it’s high time we cleared out these activists who treat this Forum like their party's personal propaganda machine—you know, the ones who think they have the right to lecture anyone just because someone drew a mustache on the President?

What "drawing mustaches"? I'm talking about supporting people who break the law. Hello? Is anyone even home???

People like that need to be kicked off here and off the streets.
Robin Rodriguez5 Robin Rodriguez5 Active Member
149 messages
joined Sep 2011
#15 ·
I’m not sure if you’re even aware, but the Anti-Euro Association actually traces its roots back to this very Forum, right here in the Economics section, back when the moderators were just regular users like me and some other folks. I was even the one handing out instructions and links on how to draft the Association's first bylaws because I believed in that kind of grassroots organizing and legal collective action—even if, personally, I didn't side with the debtors. Back then, you didn't have a clue what the Anti-Euro Association was, and you probably hadn't even heard of this site.
Given that context, your threats to pull every string possible to force the Forum to take action against this site are a total oxymoron, but hey, that's your call.
Before you finally got slapped with that 500-point penalty, a mountain of your posts went unpunished, despite being written well below any standard of basic civility or culture.
I stand by every single penalty I've issued. You seriously need to fix your attitude and stop the insults, otherwise, you won't be able to post here anymore. Man, you're getting flagged (and not even by me) even when you're trying to appeal unfair penalties.
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2015
#16 ·
Robin Rodriguez5 said:I don't know if you were even paying attention, but the Anti-Euro Association actually started right here on this Forum, specifically in the Economics thread, back when the moderators were people like bilokoje and myself. I was actually out there providing guidance and links on how to draft the Association's first bylaws—I fully supported that kind of grassroots organizing and legal collective action, even if I didn't personally agree with the debtors. Back then, you didn't even know what the Anti-Euro Association was, and you probably hadn't even heard of this Forum.

Oh, give me a break...
So, what happened to you that you can just sit there stone-faced while all the members of the Association are getting wiped out?
Did you get a memo from headquarters or something?

Given the circumstances, your threats to push for any kind of action against the Forum would be a total oxymoron, but hey, that's your call.

We'll see about that. If they won't do it, someone else will.
You're digging your heels in and refusing to give Alexander Thompson what he's owed.
Don't pin this on me.

Before you got that 500-point penalty, a mountain of your posts went unpunished—posts that were way below the level of basic civilization and culture.
I stand by every single penalty I've handed out. Honestly, you really need to change your tone and stop being insulting, otherwise, you aren't going to be able to post here much longer. Man, you're getting flagged (not by me) even when you're reporting unfair penalties.

You're exaggerating—way too much. Some of my posts were only triggered because "the other side" wasn't getting flagged when they clearly should have been. There’s been a massive amount of dissatisfaction for a long time now—not just from me—regarding the double standards applied to everyone in this thread. You moderators, especially you, haven't shown even the slightest desire to fix it; if anything, you've made it worse.
It's the same story now: Alexander Thompson is going to slide by easily even though he insulted 100k people. Don't act like you don't know what's going on. How about trying some equal treatment for once? Like bilokoje (glad you brought her up) used to do. Just so we're clear, I've been following this thread from the start, even if I only recently joined the site. And I've been a member of the Association since day one, so you've just managed to spout two more huge lies.
Change my style? You think I write just to please you?
I hear you loud and clear, Comrade Stalin! 😁
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2015
#17 ·
Banderas and the gang, I’m asking one last time: Are you actually going to punish Alexander Thompson for that massive insult he leveled at me—and, apparently, another 100,000 people?

I’ll give you three days.

Small hint: my mental anguish is growing by the minute...
Hannah Alvarez2 Hannah Alvarez2 Active Member
54 messages
joined Jun 2013
#18 ·
Seriously, did you even bother reading the terms and conditions when you signed up? 🍿
Leave Gary alone! 🧐
Raymond Palmer3 Raymond Palmer3 MemberOP
16 messages
joined Aug 2015
#19 ·
Jerry Ruiz36 said:Did you seriously just skip over the terms and conditions you agreed to when you signed up?

I did.

Leave Garfield alone! 🧐

Who’s touching him? I’m taking this straight to the mods.

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