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Why do people need a scapegoat?

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Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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joined Feb 2010
#1 ·
It’s crazy how people just love to hate someone simply because they aren't easy on the eyes. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone get insulted just for their looks, and then everyone immediately writes them off and treats them like they're less than human.

And then there's the gossip. People will swallow any rumor whole, even if it makes zero sense. Like, if some random person starts saying "she's a total slut," nobody actually stops to think—they just jump on the bandwagon, decide she's some trashy girl, and start making her the target of every joke and insult.

People also just can't stand anyone with a different opinion. It's like they have to hate you just because you're on the other side, whether it's rooting for the Yankees instead of the Red Sox, or having different takes on science, religion, or even just what kind of music you listen to.

I've seen it happen so many times where someone makes one little mistake, and people are just waiting in the wings to absolutely despise them for it. Then they start making up all these extra reasons to justify it, and that hate just snowballs.

The folks who call themselves super religious don't hate anyone, EXCEPT the devil, Satanists, immoral people, creeps, cheaters, and all that. It feels like Satan was basically invented as a punching bag for Christians since their faith technically doesn't allow them to be hateful toward others.

Just look at Simona Gotovac and all those nasty comments flying around about her. Sure, maybe she isn't the brightest bulb, but does she really deserve all that vitriol? Especially since I've honestly never heard her say a single mean thing about anyone else.

At the end of the day, it’s just constant friction. You've got tension between different countries, then within a country you have cities hating on each other—like New York vs. LA—and then even within a city, neighborhoods are constantly at odds.

It honestly feels like people just need someone to hate, even if that person is actually wonderful and hasn't done a single thing wrong...
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#2 ·
Yeah, it’s just one of those fundamental human needs. I actually posted something similar about this a few days ago. I have this whole quasi-pseudoscientific theory floating around my head regarding the matter, but... maybe tomorrow.
hollowsailor48 hollowsailor48 Member
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#3 ·
There are plenty of scientific, psychological, philosophical, and just plain wild theories floating around out there 😁

Alright, folks, let's see what you've got: lay those conspiracy theories on me 😂
rustyskipper7 rustyskipper7 Member
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#4 ·
It seems like the more people gather, the stupider they get...
And clearly, the one with the absolute lowest self-esteem will be the first to point a finger at someone else, just to distract everyone from their own glaring flaws..
In any crowd, you’ll find at least five or six mindless followers who can't think for themselves, clinging to some insecure alpha male just to feel a sense of security..

Just toss in a spoonful of seasoning and stir it all together..
And what you end up with is a bunch of bottom-feeders and lowlifes😉
silentpilot6 silentpilot6 Regular
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#5 ·
I don't have any need for hate, nor do I harbor any animosity toward anyone.
Some people I like, some I feel nothing for, and while there are those I don't particularly care for, I never go beyond that.
Hatred has a tendency to erode and destroy the very person who holds it.
Hate—especially when it's irrational—is purely political, superficial, foolish, and frankly, infantile.

Regarding Simona Gotovac... why would I hate her? I just don't feel that way about her. 😬
Or hating people from Chicago just because I'm a New Yorker 😵... that's just silly and shallow.
Rebecca Morris2 Rebecca Morris2 Member
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#6 ·
Most people just lack any real self-confidence 🤷
you see someone doing even worse than you are, and instead of feeling anything, you just feel this weird sense of relief, right? There’s zero actual empathy—no "love thy neighbor" vibes here—just pure masochistic energy or maybe just being completely fed up with how stupid everyone is. Like, take Simona Gotovac, for example... I mean, how could any average American guy (LOL) not be absolutely livid when he’s forced to deal with someone like her 24/7, especially after she spent all that time acting like she was "living her best life in Miami"
Bradley Taylor24 Bradley Taylor24 Member
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#7 ·
Why on earth would I squander my precious time, energy, and mental well-being on something as futile as hatred? For Simona Gotovac, it’s the exact same sentiment as it is for silentpilot6. It is far more efficient to simply look the other way when faced with such phenomena. You just let it slide right past you. At the end of the day, harboring hate only serves to harm oneself, and quite significantly at that.
Betty Long14 Betty Long14 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Bradley Taylor24 said:Why on earth would I squander my precious time, energy, and mental well-being on something as futile as hatred? For Simona Gotovac, it’s the exact same sentiment as it is for silentpilot6. It is far more efficient to simply look the other way when faced with such phenomena. You just let it slide right past you. At the end of the day, harboring hate only serves to harm oneself, and quite significantly at that.

Must be nice being all high and mighty with your advice, but you clearly don't see how kids actually flock to a target because:
he's quiet and keeps to himself
doesn't have a smartphone
has no Facebook profile
has some kind of speech impediment
and all that other stuff........................
Nancy Chavez2 Nancy Chavez2 Newcomer
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#9 ·
Subabuse;24712716 said:The bigger the crowd, the stupider the group...
And it’s always the guy with zero self-esteem who’s the first to point fingers at someone else, just to distract from his own flaws...
In any mob, you’ve got at least five or six mindless followers just trailing behind some insecure alpha, thinking it makes them feel safe...

I’m with you on that. I honestly think 90% of these fake controversies are manufactured by people like that. Others go along with it, not because they actually believe the nonsense, but just because it’s entertaining. Personally, I think these types are either deeply insecure—trying to fix their own issues by tearing others down—or they're just completely clueless. When they run out of things to talk about, they target anyone who stands out. Whether it's picking on a flaw or attacking someone more capable because they can't stand seeing someone actually succeed... it's always the same pattern.
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#10 ·
Betty Long14 said:Must be nice being all high and mighty with your advice, but you clearly don't see how kids actually flock to a target because:
he's quiet and keeps to himself
doesn't have a smartphone
has no Facebook profile
has some kind of speech impediment
and all that other stuff........................

This isn't about hatred—it's just pure, unadulterated group catharsis.
It's how they reinforce their sense of belonging, participation, friendship, and identity... it bleeds off stress, and frankly, the kids find it fun and comfortable.

If we didn't have a structured system of control or certain authorities they fear, they would be doing much worse things to those few individuals who get picked out by the sheer force of group dynamics...

So, it's not that anyone actually hates them—even if the victim probably hates them as much as humanly possible.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#11 ·
Betty Long14 said:Must be nice being all high and mighty with your advice, but you clearly don't see how kids actually flock to a target because:
he's quiet and keeps to himself
doesn't have a smartphone
has no Facebook profile
has some kind of speech impediment
and all that other stuff........................

That's exactly what I was talking about. 👍

I was just mentioning Simone as an example, since I know people love to trash her even though she's probably a sweetheart.

It’s just like what Betty Long14 said. When you beat someone up, mock them, or just take joy in hurting them, that’s hate. It’s fueled by that sense of belonging and friendship that placidwolf27 mentioned, but it's still pure hate toward someone. Kids just do it because they think it's fun.
Kids can be way worse than adults when it comes to this—they just don't have any empathy.

People hurt each other every single day... I honestly don't get what drives people to do it. Is there just a little bit of sadism in all of us?
Alex Patel96 Alex Patel96 Active Member
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#12 ·
I honestly think we’re looking at a vicious cycle here. At least, that’s what I see happening all around me. Everyone is just lashing out at everyone else because someone, somewhere down the line, decided to take their frustrations out on a person who eventually ended up in the position of abuser.

Then, the person who’s currently the underdog just moves on and dumps all that pent-up rage onto some other target later on...

It’s nothing more than people using others to vent their own deep-seated frustrations.
silentsailor4 silentsailor4 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Betty Long14 said:Must be nice being all high and mighty with your advice, but you clearly don't see how kids actually flock to a target because:
he's quiet and keeps to himself
doesn't have a smartphone
has no Facebook profile
has some kind of speech impediment
and all that other stuff........................

Children act on instinct—or at least, they are predominantly driven by it. They serve as the clearest window into the primal traits embedded within us through evolution. In this instance, we see the survival of the fittest playing out according to Darwinian theory.
Hatred is a fundamental human impulse that we attempt to suppress through the imposition of civilized values. Religion serves as one of our most effective tools in this struggle, simply by virtue of its endurance over several millennia.
Betty Chase54 Betty Chase54 Member
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#14 ·
Alex Patel96 said:I honestly think we’re looking at a vicious cycle here. At least, that’s what I see happening all around me. Everyone is just lashing out at everyone else because someone, somewhere down the line, decided to take their frustrations out on a person who eventually ended up in the position of abuser.

Then, the person who’s currently the underdog just moves on and dumps all that pent-up rage onto some other target later on...

It’s nothing more than people using others to vent their own deep-seated frustrations.

I have to disagree with that. Personally, I don't feel this urge to take my issues out on others.

Look, I deal with negative energy just like everyone else, but I consider myself smart and decent enough to handle my own business internally.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
silentsailor4 said:Children act on instinct—or at least, they are predominantly driven by it. They serve as the clearest window into the primal traits embedded within us through evolution. In this instance, we see the survival of the fittest playing out according to Darwinian theory.
Hatred is a fundamental human impulse that we attempt to suppress through the imposition of civilized values. Religion serves as one of our most effective tools in this struggle, simply by virtue of its endurance over several millennia.

🙂 That's a really interesting take! Makes total sense to me.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
Betty Chase54 said:I have to disagree with that. Personally, I don't feel this urge to take my issues out on others.

Look, I deal with negative energy just like everyone else, but I consider myself smart and decent enough to handle my own business internally.

True, but I’m not talking about people who actually realize their behavior is wrong. You say you're smart and honest, but there are plenty of people out there who just don't care how they affect others. I'm talking about that deep-seated urge.
silentsailor4 silentsailor4 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:🙂 That's a really interesting take! Makes total sense to me.

How did I figure this out?
It happened once I had children. The most intense period is around age two. At that stage, they haven't developed any civilized inhibitions yet, but they are already capable of quite a lot. Once they start fighting over a toy at daycare, there is absolutely no mercy; they immediately identify the weakest link and eliminate them first. It is drastic—they even resort to biting. When I picked up my kid from preschool for the first time only to see a massive bruise on their ear, I was stunned and horrified. But then, after hearing the full story of what actually went down, I finally understood how these things work.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active MemberOP
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#18 ·
silentsailor4 said:How did I figure this out?
It happened once I had children. The most intense period is around age two. At that stage, they haven't developed any civilized inhibitions yet, but they are already capable of quite a lot. Once they start fighting over a toy at daycare, there is absolutely no mercy; they immediately identify the weakest link and eliminate them first. It is drastic—they even resort to biting. When I picked up my kid from preschool for the first time only to see a massive bruise on their ear, I was stunned and horrified. But then, after hearing the full story of what actually went down, I finally understood how these things work.

👍 Way to go!
Rebecca Scott3 Rebecca Scott3 Active Member
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#19 ·
...there’s just this certain group of people who stay stuck at that level their entire lives......but it isn't everyone....just the ones who refuse to grow up or evolve...

....honestly, I don't have a hateful bone in my body....and I find it a little mysterious how people can actually carry that much hate within them.....I've just never felt that way about anyone....
... even if they really did kick me while I was down... (not literally, obviously)...
Adam Miller46 Adam Miller46 Active Member
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#20 ·
Hatred is a unique force; it creates a bond even where absolutely nothing else connects people...
It has always fascinated me how two opposing sides—or even several—will suddenly find common ground the moment they identify a shared enemy...

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