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Hypersexuality: Let's talk about it

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Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, here’s the real question: how do you actually spot hypersexuality? Is this some kind of disorder where people just can't be faithful or feel any actual affection—they’re just wired for sex, cheating on everyone they meet? And more importantly, how are you supposed to react once you realize you've gotten tangled up with someone like that? Should we view it as an uncontrollable trait they aren't responsible for... or do we have every right to judge them as cold-blooded players who would sleep with anything that moves, even if it makes you sick, and couldn't feel love for you even if their life depended on it?
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#2 ·
Ugh... if my memory serves me correctly (and I haven't taken my Ginkgo today... or ever, for that matter 😁 )
shouldn't nymphomania technically be classified as a disorder characterized by constant sexual arousal in women?

Because, if I recall correctly and that's the definition, it doesn't necessarily mean she has to be amoral or unfaithful; it just means she's perpetually on edge. How she chooses to manage that particular issue is another matter entirely.

Then again, if I've misremembered the details, I suppose I really have no idea. 😁
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#3 ·
Yeah, nymphomania only applies to women. The male version is called satyriasis...
Karen Adams2 Karen Adams2 Active Member
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#4 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:So, here’s the real question: how do you actually spot hypersexuality? Is this some kind of disorder where people just can't be faithful or feel any actual affection—they’re just wired for sex, cheating on everyone they meet? And more importantly, how are you supposed to react once you realize you've gotten tangled up with someone like that? Should we view it as an uncontrollable trait they aren't responsible for... or do we have every right to judge them as cold-blooded players who would sleep with anything that moves, even if it makes you sick, and couldn't feel love for you even if their life depended on it?

Mhm... I think you might be mixing a few things up there, because what you're describing sounds like something else entirely. And I'm not even entirely certain if it qualifies as a clinical disorder myself...😁
From what I recall, nymphomania is more about an inability to reach satisfaction through sex—essentially wanting more, and more, and more... and it's never quite enough. But again, I'm emphasizing that this is just based on my own memory; please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.😉
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
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#5 ·
Satire... hmm. Interesting. How would that even work in practice? Is the gun constantly cocked or something? 😕 xD
Generally speaking, yes, I believe they deserve to be condemned. Total shamelessness—how anyone can be so deranged is beyond me. 😳
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active Member
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#6 ·
redharbor9 said:Yeah, nymphomania only applies to women. The male version is called satyriasis...

Nah, I think the male version of nymphomania is just being an "average guy."

Everyone knows what nymphomania is, but hardly anyone's heard of satyriasis. It’s because society thinks it's totally normal for men to always want sex, but they don't feel the same way about women.
Gary James88 Gary James88 Active Member
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#7 ·
It’s interesting—the DSM-IV doesn't actually include clinical criteria for nymphomania or satyriasis, even though they're still hanging around in the ICD-10.

A lot of people argue whether nymphomania should even be considered a disorder, especially since the public tends to slap that label on anyone who's just sexually active or expressive. But honestly, most of those behaviors don't even meet the actual diagnostic criteria for a sexual disorder, even under the older ICD-10 standards.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#8 ·
redharbor9 said:Yeah, nymphomania only applies to women. The male version is called satyriasis...

So, what do you call that sex addiction that all those big Hollywood stars end up getting treated for here in the States?
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#9 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Nah, I think the male version of nymphomania is just being an "average guy."

Everyone knows what nymphomania is, but hardly anyone's heard of satyriasis. It’s because society thinks it's totally normal for men to always want sex, but they don't feel the same way about women.

Look, I don't think we are talking about social perceptions of gender roles here; rather, we should be focusing on specific clinical symptoms. In my view, a man suffering from satyriasis isn't just a "typical guy," but someone dealing with a serious condition that interferes with his ability to lead a normal life.
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
Since I haven't received an answer to any of my questions yet, maybe I should try framing this differently.
Is it considered a disorder if someone is completely incapable of emotional attachment? Not just being distant, but feeling absolutely nothing for anyone—not even you. They can listen to you talk until they're blue in the face, but they couldn't care less about what you're going through. I'm not sure if that makes it clearer... Imagine a woman who just wanders around, hooking up with whoever she meets, feeling zero connection to anyone. She can't be faithful, she can't sustain a relationship, and she certainly can't be a partner. Is that actually normal?
Jerry Cooper3 Jerry Cooper3 Member
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#11 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:Since I haven't received an answer to any of my questions yet, maybe I should try framing this differently.
Is it considered a disorder if someone is completely incapable of emotional attachment? Not just being distant, but feeling absolutely nothing for anyone—not even you. They can listen to you talk until they're blue in the face, but they couldn't care less about what you're going through. I'm not sure if that makes it clearer... Imagine a woman who just wanders around, hooking up with whoever she meets, feeling zero connection to anyone. She can't be faithful, she can't sustain a relationship, and she certainly can't be a partner. Is that actually normal?

And frankly, the exact same question applies to men as well!
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
Jerry Cooper3 said:And frankly, the exact same question applies to men as well!

I think there’s a distinction here because, biologically speaking, sex is almost a necessity for men—they just need that release. Then again, I’m no expert; I figured someone here might actually know more than I do. So, we're talking about people who are usually incredible lovers and amazing in bed... and let's face it, who doesn't love that? But is it smarter to approach them from that angle and just use them, much like they're using you as some sort of disposable commodity? Or is leaning into that side of sexuality actually damaging for someone whose nature isn't built that way... say, if you're the type of person who is genuinely sensitive and emotional...
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#13 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:Since I haven't received an answer to any of my questions yet, maybe I should try framing this differently.
Is it considered a disorder if someone is completely incapable of emotional attachment? Not just being distant, but feeling absolutely nothing for anyone—not even you. They can listen to you talk until they're blue in the face, but they couldn't care less about what you're going through. I'm not sure if that makes it clearer... Imagine a woman who just wanders around, hooking up with whoever she meets, feeling zero connection to anyone. She can't be faithful, she can't sustain a relationship, and she certainly can't be a partner. Is that actually normal?

Yeah, that's totally normal. It's called having an active sex life. 🙂
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#14 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:I think there’s a distinction here because, biologically speaking, sex is almost a necessity for men—they just need that release. Then again, I’m no expert; I figured someone here might actually know more than I do. So, we're talking about people who are usually incredible lovers and amazing in bed... and let's face it, who doesn't love that? But is it smarter to approach them from that angle and just use them, much like they're using you as some sort of disposable commodity? Or is leaning into that side of sexuality actually damaging for someone whose nature isn't built that way... say, if you're the type of person who is genuinely sensitive and emotional...

It really all comes down to where you draw the line...
I’d personally label someone like that an emotional invalid. I suspect there are actual clinical terms out there involving "socio-" or "-pathy" for individuals who view other human beings merely as tools to satisfy their own selfish needs...
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#15 ·
An emotional void. Interesting... yeah, I’m getting that same vibe.
Aaron Anderson72 Aaron Anderson72 Active Member
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#16 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:I think there’s a distinction here because, biologically speaking, sex is almost a necessity for men—they just need that release. Then again, I’m no expert; I figured someone here might actually know more than I do. So, we're talking about people who are usually incredible lovers and amazing in bed... and let's face it, who doesn't love that? But is it smarter to approach them from that angle and just use them, much like they're using you as some sort of disposable commodity? Or is leaning into that side of sexuality actually damaging for someone whose nature isn't built that way... say, if you're the type of person who is genuinely sensitive and emotional...

Like I was saying, society treats it as totally normal for guys since they need that outlet, but if a woman even admits she thinks about sex, people immediately label her a nympho... 😕

I have a friend just like that. Back in my 20s, I'm pretty sure she had at least 100 partners. Why should we slap a label like "sick" or "nympho" on her, when a guy doing the exact same thing would just be called a "player" or a ladies' man? Nobody would ever even question him. Honestly, maybe she’s just a girl having fun without wanting to get tied down... Maybe it's perfectly fine, and we've just been raised by our culture to think it's wrong.
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#17 ·
Aaron Anderson72 said:Like I was saying, society treats it as totally normal for guys since they need that outlet, but if a woman even admits she thinks about sex, people immediately label her a nympho... 😕

I have a friend just like that. Back in my 20s, I'm pretty sure she had at least 100 partners. Why should we slap a label like "sick" or "nympho" on her, when a guy doing the exact same thing would just be called a "player" or a ladies' man? Nobody would ever even question him. Honestly, maybe she’s just a girl having fun without wanting to get tied down... Maybe it's perfectly fine, and we've just been raised by our culture to think it's wrong.

Look, it is possible that you or someone with a similar mindset might try to shove someone into the "nymphomaniac" category, but nymphomania is actually a psychopathological term. As such, it has a specific clinical meaning and cannot be automatically equated with someone being sexually active. Theoretically, a person diagnosed with nymphomania could have only one single partner throughout their entire twenties and still engage in sex ten times a day.

While nymphomania as a condition might drive a person to satisfy their impulses through frequent changes in partners, I guess one cannot automatically equate having many partners with the disorder itself. For instance, if your friend has been sexually active since she was 16, she could have had sex once a week until her early twenties and theoretically reached over 100 partners. But that wouldn't necessarily mean she is a nymphomaniac, because once a week is likely too infrequent to meet that clinical definition.
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#18 ·
So, look, what I’m actually getting at isn't about nymphomania... it's something else entirely. I just don't wrap my head around these impulses where sex becomes the absolute priority. Honestly, I can't even relate to that mindset, which is why I struggle with it. I thought maybe someone could give me a professional perspective here. For instance, the idea of sex without any emotional connection makes my skin crawl—though I suppose that's just labeled a "female dysfunction" by some... And sure, I get the occasional grooming thing, but treating constant sexual pursuit as a full-blown lifestyle? It’s bizarre. How is it possible for some people to never develop actual feelings for others? Are they just brain dead? You know... are they just flatliners? That's what scares me. I genuinely cannot fathom where that state of being comes from. I just want to understand it so it feels less alien... and so I don't feel so threatened by people like that. That's all.
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#19 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:So, look, what I’m actually getting at isn't about nymphomania... it's something else entirely. I just don't wrap my head around these impulses where sex becomes the absolute priority. Honestly, I can't even relate to that mindset, which is why I struggle with it. I thought maybe someone could give me a professional perspective here. For instance, the idea of sex without any emotional connection makes my skin crawl—though I suppose that's just labeled a "female dysfunction" by some... And sure, I get the occasional grooming thing, but treating constant sexual pursuit as a full-blown lifestyle? It’s bizarre. How is it possible for some people to never develop actual feelings for others? Are they just brain dead? You know... are they just flatliners? That's what scares me. I genuinely cannot fathom where that state of being comes from. I just want to understand it so it feels less alien... and so I don't feel so threatened by people like that. That's all.

Well, I have been in a long-term, stable relationship for quite some time, so I don't really participate in that kind of behavior, but I do understand the drive. I think it is quite clear that sex provides an incredibly intense sense of pleasure, and it makes sense that people want to be intimate with those they find sexually attractive 🤷 And naturally, if you meet someone while out on the town and take them straight to bed, you haven't truly gotten to know them yet; and if you haven't known them, there isn't necessarily a requirement to develop deep emotions toward them 🤷

It is almost as if you are treating a sexual partner like a life-sized doll. Though, in those cases, that partner is likely treating you the exact same way.

Even though, from an evolutionary standpoint, men might be more inclined toward having multiple partners while women might lean toward forming attachments, I suspect that modern social influences have shifted things significantly, leading to many different scenarios today.
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#20 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:So, look, what I’m actually getting at isn't about nymphomania... it's something else entirely. I just don't wrap my head around these impulses where sex becomes the absolute priority. Honestly, I can't even relate to that mindset, which is why I struggle with it. I thought maybe someone could give me a professional perspective here. For instance, the idea of sex without any emotional connection makes my skin crawl—though I suppose that's just labeled a "female dysfunction" by some... And sure, I get the occasional grooming thing, but treating constant sexual pursuit as a full-blown lifestyle? It’s bizarre. How is it possible for some people to never develop actual feelings for others? Are they just brain dead? You know... are they just flatliners? That's what scares me. I genuinely cannot fathom where that state of being comes from. I just want to understand it so it feels less alien... and so I don't feel so threatened by people like that. That's all.

Do you need to befriend every cow before you slaughter it just to get a steak on your plate? Or do you have to bond with every single cherry on the tree before you pick it and eat it? If the answer is no, then we have our reason. It's because that steak and that fruit exist for one thing: satisfying a basic need.

Sex is the exact same thing. If you hook up with someone you wouldn't even recognize on the street tomorrow, or someone whose name you don't even know, it's just fulfilling a need. Both sides. Period. It’s no different than eating, drinking, or sleeping... just satisfying a physical urge, nothing more.

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