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Participants Roger Morris3neonmoose3Andrew Anderson6Betty Bennett10Ashley Nguyen5Scott Johnson45swiftcobra15Nathan Collins2Betty Gonzalez30urbanpanther83Charles Hill78ALisa Walker7George Brooks5Alexander Parker69
Roger Morris3 Roger Morris3 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Back at the end of the last century, the World Health Organization under the United Nations officially gave the nod to Yoga. They’re pushing it as a way to prevent all those chronic illnesses caused by stress and sitting around too much.
This official stamp of approval only happened after decades of research conducted by various teams of medical experts.
But who exactly is this HBK? And which "globally recognized" experts are actually sitting on those boards?
And who gave them a platform in the mainstream media to spout such nonsense?
Why are American doctors staying silent about this?
And what about the intellectuals in general?
Anyone who considers themselves a rational person shouldn't let this garbage slide...👎
neonmoose3 neonmoose3 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Could you please clarify what you mean? I'd love to hear more about your take on Yoga and that decision from the United Nations.
Andrew Anderson6 Andrew Anderson6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#3 ·
neonmoose3 said:Seriously, can you explain yourself? Like, what's your actual take on Yoga and that whole United Nations decision?

And what even is the HKB & what's the point 😕 😕 😕
Betty Bennett10 Betty Bennett10 Active Member
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joined May 2005
#4 ·
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
Ashley Nguyen5 Ashley Nguyen5 Member
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joined Jul 2003
#5 ·
Practicing Yoga is entirely a matter of personal preference, just as deciding whether or not you want to view the folks at the Catholic Church as simpletons is a choice left solely to you. Personally, I don't find them foolish at all, though I suppose one could certainly have a spirited debate regarding your own rather agitated little prose!
My dear, why not simply pay your own $83 monthly fees and indulge in as much Yoga as your heart desires? It’s such a wonderful way to decompress, relieve stress, and sort out those pesky mobility issues we all face.
Frankly, I fail to see any logical reason why the practice of Yoga should be funded by the federal budget....
If anyone enjoys it, they are more than welcome to go right ahead! (provided they pay their own way)
Scott Johnson45 Scott Johnson45 Member
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#6 ·
Haha, you all mostly fall into that 99% of Americans who just don't bother reading the news 😁 🙂

Roger Morris3, this really should have been posted in the Politics or maybe even the Religion section, just so you could see what kind of debates break out there... 👍
Scott Johnson45 Scott Johnson45 Member
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#7 ·
Ashley Nguyen5 said:I honestly don't see any reason why practicing Yoga should be something funded by taxpayer dollars...
(and who actually pays for it?)

I suppose it’s the exact same logic they use for anti-smoking campaigns, right?😕

It's all about keeping the nation healthy, I guess...👍
swiftcobra15 swiftcobra15 Regular
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joined Dec 2002
#8 ·
Ashley Nguyen5 said:1. Practicing Yoga is a matter of personal choice, just like deciding whether or not you think the people at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops are idiots.

2. I don't see any reason why Yoga should be funded by taxpayer money...
If you love it, go ahead! (And pay for it yourself)

It’s pretty clear there are a lot of malicious people in there with very limited intellectual capacity. If they aren't capable (or willing) to distinguish
HATHA Yoga from Hinduism, then they truly deserve to be called an idiot, a malicious person, or both.😉

2. Well, if religious education—which is essentially brainwashing!—is being funded by the federal budget, then there is even more reason to fund the best known system of physical exercise for maintaining and improving health.🙂
Andrew Anderson6 Andrew Anderson6 Active Member
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#9 ·
Scott Johnson45 said:Lol, you guys are basically just part of that 99% of Americans who don't even bother reading the news 😁 🙂

Yeah... and honestly, I wouldn't be able to afford them here anyway. It’d actually be helpful if people just wrote a post explaining what the hell is going on 🙂 👋
Nathan Collins2 Nathan Collins2 Active Member
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#10 ·
swiftcobra15 said:It’s blindingly obvious that the people running things over there are just a bunch of malicious, narrow-minded idiots. If they aren't capable—or willing—to distinguish
HATHA Yoga from Hinduism, then they deserve to be called fools, villains, or quite frankly, both.😉

2. And if religious indoctrination (which is really just a fancy word for brainwashing!) is being funded by the taxpayers, then there are a hundred more reasons why we should be funding the best known system of physical exercise for maintaining and improving health.🙂

👍 👍 Exactly. I think the issue for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is that Yoga is seen as a "product" of another religion, and they fear people might mass-convert to Hinduism and such. That doesn't sit well with Catholic clergy, because then they'll have less influence to exert. It’s very simple.

By the way, what gets funded by the federal budget is decided by the government. I’m sure much stupider things get funded all the time... But honestly, I don't see what the bishops have to do with that decision in this country. Unbelievable.
Roger Morris3 Roger Morris3 NewcomerOP
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#11 ·
Scott Johnson45 said:Probably just like those anti-smoking campaigns...😕

Just trying to keep the nation healthy, I guess...👍

🙂
Roger Morris3 Roger Morris3 NewcomerOP
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#12 ·
swiftcobra15 said:)

If taxpayer money—basically just funding brainwashing—is coming out of the federal budget, then there’s a million times more reason to fund the best physical fitness system out there for actually improving health.🙂

👍 🙂 👍
neonmoose3 neonmoose3 Newcomer
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#13 ·
swiftcobra15 said:...the absolute best system of physical exercises out there for staying healthy and leveling up your wellness.🙂

I just love statements like that! Seriously, would you mind explaining what you mean by "the best"? I'm dying to know!
Roger Morris3 Roger Morris3 NewcomerOP
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#14 ·
The best? Well, I guess it beats digging ditches, drinking moonshine, and kissing altar rails...
There are plenty of other ways to unwind—Tai Chi and stuff like that.
Any sport is fine, as long as you don't overdo it.
It's funny, though—more and more coaches are adding Yoga poses after mandatory drills because they're supposedly the perfect way to stretch. Apparently, training without cool-down stretches just leads to injuries and permanent physical damage.
But man, it feels like this damn Yoga is everywhere you look lately...👋 😈 👋
Betty Gonzalez30 Betty Gonzalez30 Active Member
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joined Dec 2003
#15 ·
I personally stick to Pranayama for my diving sessions; it really helps me out and has zero religious ties, though I can't speak for any of the other branches of Yoga...
urbanpanther83 urbanpanther83 Newcomer
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#16 ·
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops claims that bringing Yoga into schools is a bad idea because it supposedly pushes doctrines about reincarnation and karma...
What a joke... as if their institution isn't out there preaching its own set of rules... we all know what they stand for. Look, I consider myself pretty close to Christianity, but there's a line... who gave them the authority to decide what gets taught in public schools based on their specific dogmas?

I agree that maybe Yoga shouldn't be part of the formal curriculum, but there's even less reason for religious studies to be there. Honestly, I think Yoga would have a much more positive impact on kids. Besides, if anyone actually wants religious instruction, there’s a parish office on every street corner in this country...

And where did this idea come from that Christianity and Yoga are somehow incompatible...

Maybe this doesn't really fit the Health forum, but I just had to get this off my chest...
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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#17 ·
I see most of you are all over this Yoga thing, so I figured it was time someone shared a different perspective here:
America is overwhelmingly a Christian nation. That’s how the vast majority of people identified in the last census—I don't have the exact numbers on hand, but we're talking somewhere in the 90% ballpark. If this were a predominantly Hindu country, then introducing Yoga would actually make sense.

If they ever tried to introduce actual spiritual exercises, you lot would be the first ones screaming about how we're sliding back into the Middle Ages and complaining about prayers being said before class or whatever else comes up.
The influence of spiritual practices would also be beneficial for kids, and honestly, it's much more aligned with our own culture.

Yoga is a product of another religion, so it's perfectly natural for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to react the way they do.

And if someone wants to practice Yoga, there are plenty of ways to do that on their own time. Why should I, as a taxpayer, be expected to fund products derived from some other foreign religion?
Nathan Collins2 Nathan Collins2 Active Member
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#18 ·
Charles Hill78 said:I see most of you guys are totally obsessed with Yoga, so I figured I’d chime in with a different perspective:
America is an overwhelmingly Catholic country. According to the last census, that's how the vast majority identifies (I don't have the exact stats on hand, but we're talking somewhere in the 90% ballpark). If this were a predominantly Hindu nation, it would make sense to introduce Yoga into the curriculum.

If they actually started introducing spiritual exercises, you all would be up in arms, screaming about how we're sliding back into the Middle Ages and complaining about having certain prayers before class or whatever else.
The influence of spiritual practices would actually be beneficial for kids. Plus, it's much closer to our own culture.

Yoga is a product of another religion, so it's perfectly natural for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops to react the way they do.

And if someone wants to practice Yoga, I think there are plenty of opportunities to do that privately. Why should I, as a taxpayer, have to fund the products of some other foreign religion?

You're entitled to your opinion, but stop generalizing. For instance, I'm not into Yoga at all, but I'm not into Catholicism either. I believe in a personal God and in whatever brings me fulfillment and peace in life. So tell me, why should me as a taxpayer have to foot the bill for a massive amount of stupid stuff in this country that serves zero interest of mine—including religious education in schools and various other byproducts of the Catholic Church, all under the guise of "spiritual enlightenment" when it's really just about enriching the institution itself? Let's not kid ourselves: the Church is the wealthiest institution in the country.😉
Look, as a citizen of this country, I have to pay taxes that fund both religious needs and science, even though I'm an atheist and couldn't care less about either.

By the way, that 90% Catholic figure you're citing is highly inflated. I can tell you for a fact, based on everything I see and hear around me, that at least half of those "devout" Catholics are only Catholic because they feel forced to be in this country, and they'd face social backlash if they dared to identify as anything else or as atheists.😉

Yoga shouldn't be seen as a threat to the Catholic Church. I don't see why the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is making such a fuss. Actually, I do see why, but I'll leave that comment out.😉
Charles Hill78 Charles Hill78 Member
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#19 ·
http://www.census.gov/data/tables/2000/demo/pop1.html
You're right, I totally overstated the numbers—it was actually 3,897,332 out of 4,437,460, which puts it at 87.83%. You caught me red-handed. Honestly, I'm not making bold claims like that ever again.
Nathan Collins2 Nathan Collins2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2006
#20 ·
So, is that really your only argument against Yoga?

Think about what I told you regarding this whole concept of "forced" Catholicism. Just last Saturday, a girl in my neighborhood—born and raised right here, her parents are lifelong Americans... all five of them... but she hadn't been baptized. To marry her longtime boyfriend, she was forced to get baptized at 30 and go through all the Catholic Church sacraments because his parents were totally against it, which caused her massive headaches. Seriously, there are soooooo many cases just like that within your precious
3,897,332 out of 4,437,460, or roughly 87.83% of Catholics 😉

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