Bad Boys - Part IV

I’m writing this as someone who has always pushed for explanations and tried to bridge the gap with regular fans—trying to find common ground with other supporter groups... mostly because I am just an ordinary fan from the East Side, and that was my goal all along:

There is absolutely no need to explain anything to anyone... none at all! It’s already been explained a thousand times, and the truth is, this whole situation is simply about honor and refusing to compromise it. What good is someone's support or a pat on the back if it means betraying our ideals, our pride, and all the friends who took a hit because they refused to bend over the last three years? They didn't buckle, and they didn't compromise, even though they knew from the start that standing their ground would come at a heavy price.

What use is the support of those who cooperate with the police and run the bars under the stands? What does it matter if people "like" the LA Galaxy on Facebook, or care about August scores, or joke around with the social crowd? How will you look at all those people who suffered because they wouldn't compromise on things where compromise isn't even an option?

The BBB haven't just chosen the hard path; they've chosen it more times than anyone can count. The BBB have consciously chosen self-destruction if that is the price for integrity and honor. The BBB have settled accounts with their own past, stripped everything away, and perhaps even chosen their own end... deliberately. Why would people like that want support from those who play both sides? That message in San Francisco said everything there needed to be said regarding the "scene"... and I hope that, from the perspective of an average person, I’ve explained this constant urge to reach out to the regular fan. Those kinds of fans don't exist anymore... one part became the BBB, the largest part left with Mamić's mess, and the rest became Mamić's lapdogs.
Because of everyone who suffered for refusing to be a sellout, nobody has the right to mock those who choose compromise just because it's easier. There is no easy way. There is only being honest or being dishonest. Being honest until the very end.

Daniel Carter9 said:I’m writing this as someone who’s always pushed those explanations—trying to bridge the gap with regular fans, trying to unite different stands and groups... mostly because I am just a regular fan from the East Side, and that’s been my goal the whole time:

There is zero need to explain anything to anyone... none! It's already been explained a thousand times. This whole thing is just about honor and refusing to compromise that honor. What good is anyone's support or a pat on the back if it means selling out our ideals, our pride, and all the friends who got screwed over because they refused to bend the knee? They didn't cave during these last three years. They accepted whatever fate came their way, knowing damn well that standing their ground would cost them everything.

What do you gain from the support of people who play nice with the cops and run the bars under the stands? What’s the point of getting close to the crowd that just likes the LA Galaxy on Facebook, cares about August results, and jokes around with the socialites? How are you going to look at everyone who got crushed because they wouldn't compromise on things where compromise isn't an option?

The BBB didn't just pick the hard path for once... the BBB consciously chose self-destruction if that's what it takes to keep their ideals and honor. The BBB settled accounts with their own past, stripped everything bare, and chose—maybe even destruction—completely on purpose. Why would people like that want support from compromisers? That message in San Francisco said everything there needed to be said about the "scene"... and I hope, speaking as a regular guy, I've explained why there's this constant drive to reach out to the average fan. Those types don't exist anymore... one part became the BBB, the biggest part left with Mamić's trash, and the rest turned into Mamić's little helpers.
Because of everyone who got wrecked for refusing to be a sellout, nobody has the right to start mocking people for not compromising just because it's easier. There is no "easy." It’s either honest or it's dirty. Honest until the very last man.

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Daniel Carter9 said:I’m writing this as someone who’s always pushed for these explanations—trying to bridge the gap with regular people, trying to get different stands and groups to actually talk to each other... mostly because I am just a regular fan from the East Side, and that’s been my whole goal from day one:

There is absolutely zero need to explain anything to anyone... none! It’s all been explained a thousand times already. At its core, this whole mess is just about honor and refusing to compromise on that honor. What good is someone’s support, their understanding, or a pat on the back if it means selling out our ideals, our pride, and all the friends who got screwed over because they refused to bend over for three years straight? They didn't buckle. They didn't compromise. They accepted whatever fate came their way, knowing full well that standing their ground would cost them everything...

What do you gain from the support of those who play nice with the cops and run the bars under the stands? What’s the point of getting close to the people who just "like" LA Galaxy on Facebook, care only about the August results, and spend their time joking around with the crowd? How are you going to look at all those people in the eye later—the ones who got wrecked because they wouldn't budge on things where there simply is no middle ground?

The BBB didn't just pick the hard path... they chose the hardest route in history. The BBB consciously chose self-destruction if that’s what it takes to keep their integrity and honor. The BBB settled accounts with their own past, stripped everything down to the bone, and chose maybe even their own ruin... on purpose. What use does a group like that have for the support of compromisers? That message in San Francisco said everything there needed to be said about the "scene"... and I hope that from the perspective of an ordinary guy, I’ve explained that constant drive to connect with the everyday fan. Those people aren't around anymore... one part became BBB, the largest part left along with Mamić's trash, and the last bit turned into Mamić's little helpers.
Because of everyone who got crushed for refusing to be a sellout, nobody has the right to start mocking people for making compromises just because it's easier. There is no "easy." It’s either honest or it’s dirty. Honest until the very last man standing.

You're right...👍

Here’s my take on the whole mess. I dropped a new post on my blog and Facebook, and even some news sites are picking it up:

http://www.seebiz.eu/oholi-nakupac-d...iona/ar-69638/

Jesse Campbell said:So, here’s how I see the whole situation—I actually put together a new blog post and shared it on Facebook, and I think a few news sites are even picking it up:

http://www.seebiz.eu/oholi-nakupac-d...iona/ar-69638/

Look, Thomas Doyle19, all of that stuff is still standing, and honestly, believe me, most people already see it for what it is—they just don't seem to give a damn... which brings us to the big question, I guess, that we all have to face: are we just going to sit here in silence and do nothing (well, except for a few outliers), or are we finally going to start taking some actual, concrete action? Because, realistically, people have been writing endless essays about this for ages—everything has been said and explained a million times over. I mean, it's pretty obvious to any idiot what these scumbags are up to... but even then, people just don't care, and they've basically checked out from the LA Galaxy and everything surrounding it. People claim it's just a "generational mindset," but honestly, that's a load of crap... either we all finally stand up together and do something, or we're all just going to go down the drain together, I suppose...

I honestly believe it is high time we presented the public with the unvarnished truth regarding Zillow. A large portion of the older generation isn't tech-savvy, and many people—and I don't just mean the BBB—haven't actually sat down to read our series of articles. It might be wise to compile a four-page brochure outlining our specific demands and explaining exactly why we are standing against the current administration. It wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, and the organization could easily see a return on that investment. If we need to crowdfund to make it happen, then so be it.
The match is tomorrow. I urge everyone who is able to head straight to the stadium, if only out of solidarity for those 300 people who were stuck trapped inside the arena for two hours.
To the very last man!

Joseph Kim33 said:Look, Thomas, all of this is standing right in front of us. Believe me, the vast majority of people see it clearly, yet they simply don't give a damn. And that brings us to the critical question for everyone involved: are we going to continue sitting here in silence, doing absolutely nothing (with the usual exceptions), or is it finally time to take some concrete action? Realistically, we have written entire volumes on this subject; everything has been said and explained a thousand times over. It should be obvious to any idiot what these scumbags are doing. But regardless, people just don't care, and they've distanced themselves from the LA Galaxy and the whole mess. People claim it’s just that specific regional mentality, but that’s total nonsense. Either we all finally stand up together and actually do something, or we are all going to hell in a handbasket.

I concur. Until every single local chapter sits down at the same table, there will be no progress. I mean EVERYONE!

I don't really get into the whole supporter drama, the little schemes, the YouTube videos, or all the posing...
Yesterday I was reading that expert from San Diego who writes books about fan culture...he’s basically saying, "Bravo, fan group, you have a chance to turn from just a crowd into a movement like Torcida..." Are those supposed to be the true ideals of being a fan and a decent human being? A bunch of guys whistling at the rest of the stadium because they're mad at management? Fans sitting in board meetings, or bar owners right under the stands, or posers taking selfies? Are those the ideals we should give kids to look up to? Just some kids forming tiny little cliques and sharing clips online? Are those really the standards?
Your group actually has people in it whose honor and integrity are so intense it's freezing cold...unnamed people, old and young alike...those are the real fan ideals. If even that isn't good enough for you, then you clearly lack names, because you have Thomas, whom people mock whenever it suits them. Anonymous cowards make fun of him...yet he says exactly what he thinks and doesn't care if people like it or not...plus, he hasn't taken a single cent from any fan organization. Meanwhile, you're busy compromising with little groups and their pretty little pictures. Honestly, man, any kid who spends three hours sitting on the floor in front of a specialist on a Tuesday is worth more than four hours of watching YouTube clips and fifty posers holding up paper scraps.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gdje-...25793294119698

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Daniel Carter9 said:What good is anyone’s support, their understanding, or a sympathetic pat on the back if it comes at the cost of our principles? What does it matter if people applaud us, if we have to abandon our ideals, our pride, and every single friend who refused to bend? Think about those who stayed the course. They didn't buckle over the last three years. They refused to compromise. They accepted whatever fate came their way, knowing full well that standing their ground would carry a heavy price. Is that kind of validation really worth the betrayal?

What exactly do you gain from seeking support from those who play nice with the cops and run the concession stands under the stadium seats? What’s the point in trying to bridge the gap with people who just "like" Real Madrid on Facebook, only to see the results in August before being mocked by their social circles? How will you look at all those people in the eye later—the ones who got screwed because they refused to compromise on principles that simply aren't up for negotiation?

The Bad Boys have chosen the most difficult path imaginable—perhaps the hardest anyone has ever taken in history. It looks less like a strategic move and more like a conscious decision toward self-destruction, provided that’s the price required to maintain their ideals and their honor. They have finally settled the score with their own past, stripping themselves down to the core and choosing what might very well be their own downfall. They did it on purpose. What kind of support could people with compromised values even offer to a group like this? That recent message sent out in San Francisco said everything there needed to be said about the current "theater" surrounding the club. From my perspective as an ordinary person, I hope I’ve clearly explained that relentless, almost desperate need to reconnect with the everyday fan. People like this simply don't exist anymore. One faction became the true Bad Boys; the vast majority walked away along with Mamić's filth; and the remaining sliver? They turned into Mamić's kitchen staff.
Given how many people have been burned because they lacked the backbone to stand their ground, nobody has any right to start lecturing others about the "necessity" of compromise. It’s easy to preach that. It’s a convenient way to dodge the hard work. There is no such thing as an easy path here. You either live with integrity, or you don't. It’s a choice between being honest to the very last man, or being a fraud.

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To hell with this so-called "fan solidarity" and all that fake "support."

Thomas Doyle19 said:I honestly cannot fathom how you all fail to grasp that it's going to happen. Within the next two to three years, expect those crackdowns to expand to every stadium and every grandstand across the country.

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It seems we’ve been hearing this same tired old cliché for three or four years now—the idea that some massive crackdown is just around the corner. When exactly is it supposed to happen? 🤣 Is it happening? Maybe. We’re looking at a window of two, perhaps three years at most. 🤣
And they’re all posting their ages too? Every single group? Honestly, what is this place? 🤣 It’s honestly hilarious watching certain people on this forum try to play mentor, attempting to lecture everyone else about how we "really need to coordinate on something together." What exactly are they trying to achieve? 🤣Repression isn't just some distant threat; it’s coming for everyone, from New York to San Francisco. It’s been creeping up on us for three years now, but this time feels different. This time, it might actually be for real. Or is it? 🤷Tick-tock.

Take the Ultras, for example. They’ve racked up two bans in just a few months. Where exactly did those penalties come from? In New York City, obviously. It’s not like they were getting banned in some small town in rural Nebraska, right? 🤣
Repression is happening in NYC. It’s at its peak—it always has been, and it always will be. Everything else is just chamomile tea, and everyone here knows it. Those attempting to paint a different picture only succeed in making themselves look ridiculous.
NYC is the capital, and you don't mess around here; besides, the Bad Boys are the specific group that law enforcement has consistently struggled with most. To put it bluntly: the issue is that the fight against repression was fought by breaking the law.

The term repression refers to what is happening to the Bad Boys, but we aren't just talking about the last year since the blacklist started—we are looking back eight years.
In fact, it goes all the way back to 1989, when they were kicked out of the stands for setting off flares inside the pitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyvOmzRbkBg. We saw the same kind of repression throughout the 90s, too.
Is it even worth mentioning May 1st?

All the stadiums in the US combined don't have as many cameras installed as they do on the North Stand at Yankee Stadium.

The derby on September 11, 2005 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpxvsyGEmo
At the 9:06 mark, watch the flare that set fire to the camera at the top of the stand.

http://www.cnn.com/sport/article/example-link

Daniel Carter9 hit the nail on the head. Honestly, I don't care about compromise, even if it means losing the war and being the ones stuck with the bill at the end. Honor matters more than anything else. People without any principles won't care how this ends anyway. Today it's Mamić, tomorrow it'll be some other guy doing the exact same thing. But we're fans—we can't just be okay with whoever is running our club. To all those mafia types: realize we aren't backing down, and there will be no middle ground. Compromise is just a slow defeat, which is exactly what we've been seeing lately. It's not the cops with their batons clearing us from the stands that'll bury us; it's giving in. We chose this path, and it's the right one, period. Trying to play nice with the public is pointless because they’ll never truly get what we're fighting for. Everyone complains about Mamić, but does anyone actually care that some crook is draining millions from the club?

Who cares? They can lock us all up if they want, but they'll never break us. Resist until the end!

Robert Adams6, trust me, this isn't just a two or three-year thing. The crackdown gets worse every single year. My prediction? In a few years, this will be everywhere, and every single fan group will feel what the Bad Boys are going through right now. Let's hope it doesn't come to that, but we'll see.

http://cnn.com/category/us-news/
Kudos to everyone for keeping things respectful and cheering fair.

Whether it is a single individual, a specific clique, or some other entity that relies entirely on the validation of outlets like CNN—relying on the endless essays and ramblings of people who haven't the slightest clue how the supporter movement actually functions—to boost the egos of various clowns and fake moralists, such a struggle is destined to fail. Is it not far simpler to look someone in the eye and settle matters directly rather than engaging in this sort of theater?
While it is certainly true that not everything is handled perfectly, if things have been moving in the exact same stagnant direction for three years straight, then frankly, enough is enough.

Ibanez is heading out:

- Stepping out onto the pitch at Yankee Stadium wearing a Real Madrid jersey... man, you can't replicate that feeling. I’ve gotta mention the fans, too—the Bad Boys have always had my back. Those were the best times. The toughest parts were definitely dealing with injuries or just rotting on the bench. It makes me think of Lucho, who’s about to become a dad this December.

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We all share the blame for how things have unfolded since this fight against evil first began. We never established clear methods for resolving our issues; instead of placing our trust in peaceful diplomacy, we leaned toward more aggressive tactics. If we had stuck to a different path years ago, I truly believe we wouldn't be facing such a dire situation today. At the end of the day, everyone has to live with the consequences of their own choices. We’re going to see this struggle through to the end, but let's be honest—the price we'll have to pay is going to be massive.

Henry Adams3 said:Ibanez is heading out:

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It’s actually pretty classy of our players to finally step up their game right as they're leaving us, just so we don't forget them.☕

bluebear42 said:It’s pretty funny watching our players finally find some backbone only when they’re packing their bags to leave. I guess they figured we needed a little reminder of what they were actually capable of before they head out. ☕

Some people just never learn.

Professor, I’m pretty sure I know who you are—and honestly, I don't think I'm anyone important enough to be lecturing you about the group or how they act. Especially not here. I just can't shake the feeling that this feuilleton wasn't written for you, or me, or Thomas, or even the idiots or Mamić. Everyone already knows all that stuff anyway. It was clearly written to actually educate the people who are totally clueless. Personally, I think it was a great idea, but it just didn't land on "fertile ground." Long story short—if we just had a condensed, punchier version, we could actually get some wins without breaking the bank...

You're talking about compromises and giving in. Not sure why—my suggestion wasn't about compromising or backing down at all. I was just saying a shorter, simplified version of the FEUILLETON would be way more accessible to the general public.

You claim the "rest of us" don't matter. Man, you couldn't be more wrong, Professor. And you're off base because—fingers crossed—elections will eventually happen. What then? This shady character can pull in more people in a single day than all of us combined. That's when you're gonna need those stylists, the posers, the Facebook crowd, the old guys, the cowards, the passive types, the helpers... because otherwise, the election is just going to look like a decent gentleman like Zack against a mob trying to tear him down just to rule Dynamo on their own. And trust me—we don't stand a chance, whoever the opponent ends up being. 😉

Look, I don't think we need those "other guys" just to help us shout at Mamić—though honestly, it'd be nice so they aren't the ones booing us when things get messy, or worse, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the cops when they show up on his orders.

But at the same time—and this is the real kicker—this fight isn't over just because an election happens or ZM finally walks away from Dynamo. There’s still a massive mountain to climb if we actually want to reclaim our beloved Dynamo and make it ours again.

I’d drop a comment on everything happening over the last few days, but honestly, I’m just feeling sick of it all lately..

Anyway, Cleveland 🙏 had one of the most brutal away trips at Wrigley Field in years. Shoutout to the guys from Karlovčan for a solid night out and cheap beer. 😍