Bad Boys

brisktrucker2 said:That’s exactly my point. People keep falling for this narrative that because Dinamo keeps winning everything, things have become impossibly difficult for everyone else, which just isn't a fair assessment of reality.
It wouldn't hurt to remind everyone that back then, Hajduk was actually clinching championships two years running while Dinamo was basically just playing in a glorified scrimmage league. There were no big European tournaments to worry about, no massive transfer deals, and certainly no global influence to contend with. I'm not trying to be critical; I just don't want us to let a tired old lie become accepted as fact through sheer repetition.

Wait, since when did the fight for a democratic Hajduk Split begin? It seems like you all started cleaning up the house much earlier than I ever realized...

brisktrucker2 said:That’s exactly my point. People keep repeating this line about how "Dinamo only has successes, so things are harder for us," but that isn't really true.
It wouldn't hurt to remind everyone that back then, Hajduk won the championship two years in a row, while Dinamo was basically playing in some minor league. There wasn't any European competition or big transfers back then, and they didn't have much clout. I'm not trying to be critical, I just don't want a lie repeated a hundred times until people start believing it's the truth.

Even during those "minor league" seasons, there was European play—teams like Benfica or Stuttgart were involved—and the clout was actually there. The best players wanted to join Dinamo, not Hajduk, who kept getting knocked out of European qualifiers by clubs that weren't even in the same league.

brisktrucker2 said:That’s exactly my point. People just keep looping back to this idea that "Dinamo has nothing but trophies, so things are harder for us," which is honestly such a load of crap.
It doesn't hurt to remind everyone that back then, Hajduk was winning back-to-back championships while Dinamo was basically playing in some loser league. There was no big European stage to chase, no massive transfers, no real power to flex. I’m not trying to be a critic here, I just don't want some lie repeated a hundred times until everyone starts believing it's gospel truth.

What LIE are we talking about? That they weren't fighting for a decent Dinamo back in, I don't know, 2005? They weren't, that generation wasn't, so there's really no debate there!
It’s the same deal as how the Hajduk fans from that era didn't bother standing up to Grgic or Stimac. Hajduk was winning, and most people were just smugly celebrating.
Since when did we start caring about fighting in Chicago—which is the only thing that actually matters since GNK Dinamo keeps dropping titles and missing out on Europe—maybe try reading with a bit more comprehension.
If we’re going to play by "my way or the highway" rules where you aren't valid unless you've been fighting the good fight through every single generation, then I don't know who would even be left standing with clean hands. BTW, congrats to everyone on this forum for stubbornly sticking to these idiotic arguments, especially those "old-timers" who love blaming their own failures on some kids. You guys are just like those paranoid types rambling about Democratic Party conspiracies. Most of the younger crowd here is actually the only voice of reason in this sea of corrupt old farts living in their imaginary golden ages. Not to sound like a broken record, but I probably shouldn't even be here. Peace.

The only ones who seem genuinely confused—aside from that massive group of Hajduk Split fanatics who clearly have nothing better to do than sit around inventing imaginary scenarios—are you people... as if any of us actually feel the need to justify ourselves to anyone.

So, did we absolutely crush it today? 🙂

We didn't, and honestly, neither did our mothers 😉

Top-notch work, everyone. Seriously, hats off to the whole crew.

rowdyheron2 said:Did we make enough noise today? 🙂

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the folks living in those buildings right across from the West Stands end up installing double-paned windows just to get some peace. 😁

Bad Boys live in NYC, circa 2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phf5...ature=youtu.be

So, why on earth haven't they put those three northern sectors up for sale yet???

holloworca10 said:Why on earth didn't they put those three Northern sectors up for sale???

Where on earth are you getting that from?

Teaser for a crazy week ahead:

driftingotter47 said:Where on earth are you getting that from?

A preview of the madness ahead this week:

Just try buying a ticket online for those first three sections—you'll find out pretty quickly it’s impossible. I can't wrap my head around why, though I suspect it's all just some orchestrated scheme for the paid protesters...

dustysailor99 said:Just try buying tickets for those first three sections online and you’ll see for yourself—it’s impossible. I honestly can't wrap my head around why they do this, but I'm guessing it's all about protecting their precious ticket bundles.

It's all because of the subscription packages...

dustysailor99 said:Just try buying a ticket online for those first three sections and you'll see for yourself that it's impossible. I honestly have no clue why they do this, but my best guess is they're just trying to squeeze more money out of people through those overpriced concessions.

lonepuma9 replied to you. It was the exact same headache back when we tried to get tickets for that big rivalry game last summer.

dustysailor99 said:Just try buying tickets online for those first three sections and see what happens. You can't. It’s impossible. I have no clue why they do it, but my guess is it's all about the cronies.

It's the corporate packages, the season ticket holders, the hand-picked reps, the sponsors, the youth academies, and all those "friends"... you know, those "friends." They basically funnel the tickets to anyone they want just to make sure there's less room left for the Bad Boys in the North Stand.

analogheron19 said:It all comes down to the bundles, the subscriptions, the commissioners, the sponsors, the youth academies, and those "friends"... all those people who can divert funds just to ensure less money ends up staying with the Black and Gold Army.

We have three different options available online right now. Take a moment to make a choice; please, let’s not wait until the very last minute again. Perhaps they would prefer to see us sidelined, but we shouldn't be making their job any easier by procrastinating.

lonepuma9 said:because of the bundles and subscriptions.

So I guess you can get tickets for one of those three sections if you grab a bundle, which costs $133 if you join the club. And the North Stand season passes are probably sold out, maybe 47 like every year, and besides, you can't even buy them more than a month out anyway.

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Hold on just a second—since when did the crusade for a democratic Kansas City Chiefs actually begin?.. It seems as though you all decided to start cleaning house much further back in the rearview mirror than I can recall..

Thomas Williams59 said:A LIE about what? To suggest that they weren't, I don't know, fighting for a functional Los Angeles Lakers back in 2005? They certainly weren't, that specific group wasn't, so there is absolutely no question about that!
It is quite similar to how the generation of Kansas City Chiefs fans back then didn't fight or successfully push back against Grgić and Štimac. The Kansas City Chiefs were winning at the time, so most people just celebrated in a rather small-minded fashion.

I believe we really ought to draw a clear line between two distinct concepts: the struggle for an honest Kansas City Chiefs and the struggle for a democratic Kansas City Chiefs. As far as the movement for a democratic Kansas City Chiefs is concerned, we can truly only speak of it starting around 2011, with the early stages of the "Our Kansas City Chiefs" initiative, or perhaps even as far back as 2009 with the "People's Movement." In contrast, the battle for an honest Kansas City Chiefs has been simmering for a significantly longer duration. We saw various actions beginning as early as 2004—things like boycotting the game against Cincinnati, the late Čabo making his mark by hammering away at that press conference, and various petitions—all of which were met with attacks, threats, forced resignations, and similar nonsense directed at prominent members of the Black and Gold Army by the club leadership at the time and their loyalists. Naturally, back then, it was only a small handful of us (in fact, as I am typing this, I am scrolling through photos from that aforementioned boycott against Cincinnati and marveling at how few of us actually showed up outside the stadium; at the time, it felt like a massive crowd to me), and the vast majority of the fan base were essentially spineless cowards. Now, we arrive at the specific point that prompted me to join this discussion. Someone mentioned that our task of removing our own incompetent management was much easier than yours. I find myself unable to agree with that assessment. In my view, the difference lies simply in the speed of the reaction and the more strategically chosen methods of engagement.

I just picked up my ticket at the box office, but I've noticed there isn't any mention of a specific section printed on it.

http://m.goal.com/s/hr/news/6950/lig...acebook.com%2F

Word on the street is they ran a full dress rehearsal without even giving anyone a heads-up. 🤣