Bad Boys

Does Torcida actually have seats on the club's board?

Who keeps feeding you this nonsense, Klicko? 😁

It’s the same guy who keeps telling you all that we’ve been sold out... could totally be Klicko

Yeah, right, you guys don't actually have any representatives, you just have a club 😁 hehe

His wife, Venus, shared her own testimony, opening up about the many hardships they’ve faced... including their son, who once lost his way completely.

"He stopped attending Holy Mass altogether and started traveling all over Europe with the Bad Boys. I never stopped praying for him to turn things around, and God truly had a plan in mind. Now, he joins the guys every Monday for spiritual retreats," Venus explained.

It’s hardly surprising you’ve made peace with everyone; those spiritual retreats will be the end of you.☕

mellowhawk5 said:The very same guy who keeps telling you all that we’ve been sold out... it could very well be Klicko

Oh, please—you don't have representatives; you just have a club 😁 haha

Let's not act like total jerks here.

If they actually possessed a club like the one I hope we’ll own ourselves one day, things would be different.

hiddenridge99 said:Let’s not be jerks here.

If they actually had a club like the one I hope we build one day.

When those absolute lunatics
Pushed the club out of Europe two or three times
Beat those low-life bottom feeders
Put guys with the moral compass of someone like LVP in charge
Kicked Soso out
Refuse to cooperate with management or the police
Just mind their own damn business
Respect to them.

Brandon Anderson34 said:Where have you been, old timer? Look, I haven't been on this forum for about a year, maybe popped in twice. I’m heading north now just to see how someone can suddenly start supporting this absolute pile of garbage at the local stadium, but when I really think about it, what’s the point in supporting this mess if we’re just sitting at home? So, I’m mostly doing this for the guys who held it down under Omega all these years, and because both my sons will grow up being die-hard Real Madrid fans. But that’s irrelevant to this post. After a year of silence regarding the "return" of Juve, I’m writing this specifically for you, man, just to try and enlighten you. Maybe the weight of me breaking my silence will open your eyes. Look, it’s true that back in the 90s when you were active, you guys were the craziest, most colorful, and loudest group out there. But ever since that bloody derby, everything went downhill for you. Honestly, it showed that all that flashiness was built on nothing, but there wasn't enough competition to prove it. Still, if I could be born a hundred times over, I wouldn't trade those colorful days, your Champions League runs, or all those years for anything. Not for one single day. We’ve grown by 200 people, you grow as men, but the group grows on solid ground too. The end result of all this is that we always played loudly against you guys in Miami for all those 15 years (just remember that one sheet of paper with the chanting instructions 😁). Whether there were 450 of us or 2,450, that’s what stripped you bare. You distanced yourselves from the hooligans, and it showed how many of you actually exist. At the stadium, I didn't even know you were there for 15 years, except for seeing you occasionally; you haven't shown up on the streets much since the suburbs. But here, there are three hundred million of you. Your banners get burned because there isn't a group like yours in all of Europe. So, grandad, stop typing nonsense. It’s obvious you’re holding onto your ways, but I’m holding onto mine, and I would never change things with you!

And don't worry about Curva Nord at the stadium; this pathetic little crew of ours will fall apart in three or four years. Once the big brands and the arrogant types are forced to leave, a club this massive will take twenty years to recover just to reach the level of a mid-tier US team, much like the state of American soccer as a whole.

Cheers, buddy!

Even though I think it’s tacky to write on your thread about why I wouldn't swap places with you, I have to answer for the sake of the kids reading your stuff.
First off, the lie is that we haven't been on the streets since the suburbs. Starting from that train station where our boys scattered you after you attacked with stones in the early 2000s, all the way to recent events. Ask yourself why that bloody derby and similar scraps never happen in Miami. It’s simple: you never show up in numbers larger than ten. And that story about Miami being a tiny town that’s harder to break into than New York? Don't make me laugh. There are ways, like the boat you guys managed to sneak into once. A lot of banners were lost because the hooligans did whatever they felt like. But a good portion of those hooligans actually have the guts to keep shouting in New York. All your frustration boiled over when you started picking on college students
. And what does it mean that we were exposed regarding numbers? Any sane person knows there aren't more than 200 to 500 ultras on any terrace, at least in America.
I'm convinced some things might actually change soon. Let you guys spread your wings then, and we'll see who ends up where...

Imagine if those guys were roaming the streets; Miami would be going up in flames
But they aren't out here acting like we do
That’s why I respect them

Kenneth Ross7 said:Imagine if those guys actually caused chaos downtown, then Miami would be on fire.
Not like us losers who just sit around.
That is why I respect them.

Just imagine if they had Mamić leading them, bringing in ten titles and maybe four or five Champions League trophies.
If they ever decided to kick him out, all of Miami and California would rally behind Torcida. There wouldn't be any divisions like we have here with our pathetic excuses for fans. That is why I respect them!

cosmicbear15 said:Just imagine if they had Mamić leading the way—bringing home ten titles and maybe four or five Champions League trophies.
If they actually decided to kick him out, the entire city of Miami and all of California would rally behind Torcida. You wouldn't see any of those petty divisions we deal with here... That's why I respect them.

🤣 You're being way too intense, man. Take a breather...

cosmicbear15 said:Just imagine if they had Mamić on their side—he’d probably deliver ten league titles and maybe four or five Champions League trophies to their doorstep.
If they ever decided to kick him out, the entire city of Miami and all of California would rally right behind Torcida. You wouldn't see any of that petty internal division we deal with among our local hooligans. That's why I have so much respect for them!

As far as I recall, a few years back someone posted photos on this forum showing those Bad Boys absolutely wasted, scribbling all over things with markers. Or was that just ivanp?😁

Kenneth Ross7 said:When those damn lunatics
Kicked the club out of European competition two or three times
Wiped the floor with Kerum's little shrimp crew
Put absolute legends like L.P.V. on the board
Booted Soso out
Don't cooperate with management or the cops
Just mind their own business
Mad respect to them

Buddy7, you seriously need to change your therapy

I heard it straight from a few Hajduk fans, not strictly the hardcore Torcida fans... (since my wife's family is from the South, where local loyalties are split right down the middle—you can see it in the graffiti everywhere.) Honestly, if we had someone like Mamić running the show, where would we even end up? What would become of the Atlantic Ocean at that point? People are just completely mesmerized by him... though I don't quite grasp that mindset, nor do I try to...

It’s funny how certain INDIVIDUALS—the ones who supposedly stood against the devil himself—suddenly found themselves singing along with his little minions and followers just like that.

#youcantruntheclubthisway

If you’re going to act like you have principles, maybe try actually having some next time. When you see someone pushing that "one club, one voice" nonsense, don't just sit there—stand up and tell them exactly where they can shove it.👍

John Martin18 said:Look, I heard this straight from some Hajduk fans—not strictly Torcida fans, mind you. Since my wife’s family is from down south, I see how things are split right down the middle in those areas. You can see it just by looking at the graffiti. Man, if we actually had Mamic running the show... where would we be? We'd probably own the whole Atlantic Ocean by now! People are just completely obsessed with him. Honestly, I don't get that kind of mindset, and I'm not even going to try to understand it.

Exactly. That's why we finally got rid of that vulture... just a bunch of nobodies who don't even show up to the games. Sure, some of them love Mamic, but they're basically just the typical Republican voters. Basically, an irrelevant crowd.
And nobody talks like "Man, listen..." down in the South, so that story doesn't really hold water.

Dennis Davis97 said:Obviously—that’s why we finally got rid of the Stimpac guy... just irrelevant people, folks who don't even show up to the games, some of them probably just follow whatever their parents tell them to, which is basically that typical segment of the Republican voter base... anyway, they're an insignificant group
and you don't hear people talking like that back in the rural South either, so your argument doesn't really hold water

Mythomania. We got rid of Stimpac because of the Shelbourne Debrecen situation—because back in '06 and '07, our team was tanking hard on the standings since the club was drowning in debt. I doubt he left just because of a few hundred of us

A real, meaningful fight for Hajduk Split only actually starts after privatization and all those new debts kicked in; everything before that was just chaotic madness

We wouldn't have ever managed to fight for the fan-owned model if the club hadn't fallen into such deep trouble, though I guess we have to admit we played our cards well at the right moment to secure this... well, "temporary" solution. It's temporary because there isn't a real fan-led oversight board, just the president calling the shots directly. Now comes the final showdown: buying up the shares to cement this model for decades to come. We'll see if we actually have what it takes or not

Terry Howard7 said:Pure mythomania. We only got rid of Stimac because of that whole Shelbourne Debrecen mess. Back in '06 and '07, Dinamo was starting to pull way ahead of us on the standings because the club was drowning in debt. It’s not like we were the ones who caused that massive deficit by just a few hundred people.

A real, meaningful fight for Hajduk Split only truly started once privatization kicked in and the new debts piled up. Everything before that was just chaotic.

Honestly, they never would have successfully fought for the shareholders if the club hadn't fallen into such deep trouble. But you have to admit, we played our cards right at the right moment and secured this temporary fix. It's "temporary" because there aren't any shareholders to elect a board—the President just calls the shots directly now. So, here comes the final battle: buying back those shares to cement this model for decades to come. Now we'll see if we actually have what it takes.

Well, obviously things had to go south for the majority of people to finally open their eyes. Though, I think there were already folks standing against Stimac from the very beginning. Regardless of how the games went, I believe that minority would have eventually won over the majority anyway.

Kenneth Ross7 said:When those damn lunatics
Kicked the club out of European competition two or three times
Kicked out everyone from Kerum's little shrimp crew
Put "moral giants" like L.P.V. on the board
Booted Sosa out
Refuse to cooperate with management or the police
Keep their heads down and mind their own business
Mad respect to them

And you’re talking about cooperating with the police? You're the ones who hired mercenaries and cut deals with Antolic, hahaha... you're a joke. You, your group, and the club... all one big circus.

Dennis Davis97 said:It’s pretty obvious that things had to hit rock bottom before the majority finally opened their eyes. Honestly, there were always people standing against the coach from day one, regardless of how the scoreboard looked. I suspect that if given enough time, that minority would have eventually swayed the majority anyway.

Picture this: thirty thousand die-hard fans and enough gear to fill an arena, all packed into a stadium with fifty different flags waving during the opening match of the Champions League, shouting "until the last man stands."

Look, I’ll say it again: hats off to the massive achievements you've accomplished, truly. But let’s be realistic—the current circumstances and the sheer scale of the situation are simply incomparable to anything we've seen before.

Charles Chase4 said:Imagine thirty thousand die-hard fans and all that gear at the stadium—fifty torches lit up on the field during a Champions League opening match, chanting 'until the last man.'

I’m saying it again: major props for everything you guys have achieved, but let's be real—the circumstances here just aren't even in the same ballpark from start to finish.

Look, nobody's claiming the situations are identical, obviously... but this talk about how we're being treated compared to you guys is just laughable. The truth is, our fanbase is way more unified. If things were handled differently over here, the whole narrative would be completely different. But that's just what happens when your policy is to only cater to a tiny group of 100 true believers.

Dennis Davis97 said:Look, nobody is claiming the situations are identical, obviously... but this whole argument about how we supposedly have some "motherly" bond or whatever is just ridiculous. The reality is that we are more cohesive than you guys, and if things were handled differently here, the conversation would take a completely different turn. But that’s just the byproduct of your politics—limiting everything to a select few elites.

Of course they're ridiculous. It's just as absurd as any claim about some inherent, divine difference in mentality existing thousands of miles away from 249 miles.

It is remarkably easy to maintain homogeneity when your opponent isn't sitting on two billion dollars, wielding the police, the courts, the local government, a streak of twelve consecutive league titles, physical intimidation of rivals, and five Champions League trophies. Our Hajduk project was born specifically from a handshake between a few visionaries and Kerum, who essentially handed over the club because he thought it was going under and wanted to wash his hands of the responsibility. There isn't some legendary masterstroke you pulled off that wasn't also mirrored in Chicago, but the point I made above is the bottom line. I'm not saying that to be negative; I'm simply suggesting there's no sense in obsessing over these distinctions, regardless of which side you're on.