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placidbison20 said:If you guys want to keep this discussion going, let's move it to its own dedicated thread so we don't clutter this one up.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm pretty much done.

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placidbison20 said:If you guys want to keep this discussion going, let's move it to its own dedicated thread so we don't clutter this one up.

Fine. Basically, I'm with briskjackal5 on this—can't really add or take anything away from what he said.

Karen Sullivan78 said:Fine. Basically, I'm with briskjackal5 on this—can't really add or take anything away from what he said.

I was basically just reacting to the info posted here, you know? Like, about that 10-year window for how useful it stays and the whole idea that you can pick up BJJ super fast.
I guess it’s probably best to shake out these myths right away, maybe. 😁

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I’ve already vented my frustrations regarding my unpredictability to briskjackal5 and the rest of them. 😁

Jerry Thompson said:I’ve already vented my frustrations regarding my unpredictability to briskjackal5 and the rest of them. 😁

Oh, seriously, there’s absolutely no need for apologies! Everything is totally fine!

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Hey there.
I'm looking to get into Wing Chun. I happened to hear about a master who goes by the nickname Trunt—his actual last name is probably something similar. If anyone has any info on him (contact details, what he's like as an instructor, where he teaches, etc.), I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

Master Slavko Truntic?
As far as I can tell, there isn't a club anymore.
He just does private coaching now.

I don't have his contact info, and I'm not sure if he's even taking on new students. But, if he does take you on—and if you have the money for private lessons—you’d probably be getting the best training in the country, maybe even better.
That’s just what I know, and what I've heard, anyway.

If not... well, welcome to yet another "my dad is tougher than your dad" type of debate regarding US Wing Chun.

Hey rustyangler02
Every single Saturday is booked solid. If you want to swing by during the week, just head over to www.aikido.com and check out the schedule. And what's this nonsense about "maybe testing out the students' abilities"? You really think you can handle that? :-)

Testing means light sparring under MMA rules😁 ..honestly, I don't think you guys will have any trouble with me.. I'm just a young, eager kickboxer you can toss around on the mats and then laugh about over a beer later...👍

Krav Maga doesn't give a damn about MMA rules😘 ( 😈 + 😲 ) I'm just kidding, seriously though, you should totally swing by because you're gonna love it. It’s like stepping into a whole new dimension of fighting.

What’s the actual technical breakdown here—is the approach to fighting different in Krav Maga compared to Krav Maga Capoeira? It feels like Capoeira is way more focused on hitting vitals and stuff, at least from what I’ve seen on YouTube...

Honestly, I don't think you're going to get a straight answer to that. Nobody in this group actually focuses on Capoeira here.🙂

Just wondering if anyone’s actually read up on this—or maybe some Krav Maga pro out there wants to weigh in... just curious if anyone knows the deal... ☕

Look, I gotta lay down the law right out of the gate if we're talking self-defense techniques. Real training has to turn you into a fighter, plain and simple, and that all boils down to who's teaching you and how they run their sessions. You want to talk tactics and specific moves? Honestly, you don't get that from some sports ring; you need actual life experience for that. My whole body is aching in all the "vital spots" today because I had a killer workout.
Maybe look into KAPAP or Krav Maga, or just start digging around online first. KAPAP is basically shorthand for Krav Panim l’Panim—which is just a fancy way of saying face-to-face combat.
There’s a massive amount of info out there if you know where to look. But the core thing to understand is the naming difference based on the unit that actually started it all—KAPAP was developed by Pal'mach commandos.
You want technical differences? Or stuff about vital points? Man, I’ve seen plenty of guys doing Krav Maga who have totally weak knees when they wind up to swing wildly at an attacker's steel suspenders like they've lost their minds.
Real fighting? I highly doubt you've seen much actual combat on YouTube. I believe in self-defense, though.
And the big question: Is there even a real difference between KAPAP and Krav Maga?😎You aren't going to find the technical nuances on YouTube. Krav Maga and KAPAP aren't just "courses" like people try to claim. It's like saying you can take a skiing lesson and then say you're a skier—it’s just not the same thing.
But seriously, Krav Maga versus KAPAP?😎
Anyway, Wikipedia says:

The generic name in Hebrew means "close combat." The word maga (מגע) means "contact" and the word krav (קרב) means "combat," but the literal translation "contact combat," can be misconstrued as something like "kickboxing" or "full contact karate." English-speakers often shorten the term to Krav.

As a historical note, the original name of Krav Maga was KAPAP which was an acronym for Krav Panim el Panim, face-to-face combat.
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Rebecca Smith4 said:Master Slavko Truntic?
As far as I can tell, there isn't a club anymore.
He just does private coaching now.

I don't have his contact info, and I'm not sure if he's even taking on new students. But, if he does take you on—and if you have the money for private lessons—you’d probably be getting the best training in the country, maybe even better.
That’s just what I know, and what I've heard, anyway.

If not... well, welcome to yet another "my dad is tougher than your dad" type of debate regarding US Wing Chun.

I actually managed to track down his number online, but he mentioned he isn't taking anyone on—though I saw some info on this forum saying he does, provided you have a solid recommendation.

Whereabouts are you training? Are you out in the suburbs? I've been looking to get into Wing Chun myself—where do you guys have a club located so I can come by and check things out?

Yes, I train under Master Horvat.
I do private training with him.
I actually just got back from a session... I feel pretty beaten up again, I guess.
I started back when we were holding sessions over in Martinsville, but since about a year ago, I've been coming to his garage.

We did manage to secure some space at the local community college dorms (I mentioned this in a notice a while back), but I'm not entirely sure if they're actually holding classes there because interest seems low. It’s mostly just elementary-level stuff, which isn't really what most people are looking for.

Anyway, my advice would be to look into private instruction, regardless of which club you eventually join. You tend to progress much faster that way, and you get a better sense of your own mechanics along with the instructor's expertise. Most importantly—if you ever feel like someone is selling you a bill of goods, you can always bring your own gear and test things out for yourself to see if it holds water.

I'll send you a PM shortly.

Rebecca Smith4 said:Yes, I train under Master Horvat.
I do private training with him.
I actually just got back from a session... I feel pretty beaten up again, I guess.
I started back when we were holding sessions over in Martinsville, but since about a year ago, I've been coming to his garage.

We did manage to secure some space at the local community college dorms (I mentioned this in a notice a while back), but I'm not entirely sure if they're actually holding classes there because interest seems low. It’s mostly just elementary-level stuff, which isn't really what most people are looking for.

Anyway, my advice would be to look into private instruction, regardless of which club you eventually join. You tend to progress much faster that way, and you get a better sense of your own mechanics along with the instructor's expertise. Most importantly—if you ever feel like someone is selling you a bill of goods, you can always bring your own gear and test things out for yourself to see if it holds water.

I'll send you a PM shortly.

How's Coach Horvat doing? Did he put on any weight? Last time I saw him, he looked like he was wasting away from TB... 😱

No, not quite...
I have no intention of judging anyone here...

If you really want to know how it goes, I suppose you should just ask him.
You’ll likely find a contact number on one of those posters somewhere.
👍

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Rebecca Smith4 said:Yes, I train under Master Horvat.
I do private training with him.
I actually just got back from a session... I feel pretty beaten up again, I guess.
I started back when we were holding sessions over in Martinsville, but since about a year ago, I've been coming to his garage.

We did manage to secure some space at the local community college dorms (I mentioned this in a notice a while back), but I'm not entirely sure if they're actually holding classes there because interest seems low. It’s mostly just elementary-level stuff, which isn't really what most people are looking for.

Anyway, my advice would be to look into private instruction, regardless of which club you eventually join. You tend to progress much faster that way, and you get a better sense of your own mechanics along with the instructor's expertise. Most importantly—if you ever feel like someone is selling you a bill of goods, you can always bring your own gear and test things out for yourself to see if it holds water.

I'll send you a PM shortly.

Is private coaching pricey? Hit me up in a PM if you can.

Who's the instructor, and are they still actively training or leveling up their own skills?

And what do you mean by "wrecked"? Like, did your conditioning fail you, or was he actually working you over? Give me the lowdown on how the training goes.

@Michael Kim12

It wasn't really a hit... 🤣
We were just doing some drills.
If you haven't quite mastered a movement, a bad block might leave your arm feeling pretty bruised...
Plus, I managed to tweak my shoulder quite badly, so it felt a bit pulled through the whole session.

What’s a session like?
Hmm...
You show up.
Maybe do a little warm-up if you feel like it.
Then you run through some forms, and he points out what needs work and why, then corrects you.
The rest of the time is spent working on techniques or drills.

Usually, you just revisit what you did last time (maybe two or three sessions ago), expand on it, or try something fresh.

Essentially, you just decide what you want to focus on.
Self-defense, specific techniques, drills...
Whatever you're in the mood for, I suppose.

They don't really do conditioning (unless you specifically ask for it, though I'm not sure why you would), because it seems a bit pointless to pay for an hour just to do push-ups or run around the house... you can always do that on your own time.